Military Plane discussion thread - Let’s talk Fighter/Attacker planes.

Best Vietnam Era Plane?

  • F-104 Starfighter

    Votes: 4 9.1%
  • F-5 Freedom Fighter/F-5E Tiger II

    Votes: 4 9.1%
  • F-4 Phantom II

    Votes: 16 36.4%
  • F-105 Thunderchief

    Votes: 5 11.4%
  • F-111 Aardvark

    Votes: 7 15.9%
  • F-100 Super Sabre

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • A-1 Skyraider

    Votes: 5 11.4%
  • B-52 Stratofortress

    Votes: 11 25.0%
  • B-47 Stratojet

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Fuck the Vietnam War!! Make Love, Not War

    Votes: 1 2.3%
  • A-7 Corsair II

    Votes: 3 6.8%
  • A-4 Skyhawk

    Votes: 2 4.5%
  • AC-47 Spooky

    Votes: 6 13.6%
  • AC-130

    Votes: 6 13.6%

  • Total voters
    44

RedRightHand

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Any fixed wing aircraft is something I love, sleek designs and aesthetics are what I'm all about. Nazi Germany designed the Horten Ho in the last days of World War 2. It was a wonderwaffe that consumed fuel like crazy and was really never mass produced or practical for mass production, but it is impressive for the time it was made.
I love B2's as well ofc.
This thing has a terrible safety record but again, I have a thing for sleek looking aircraft that are gimmicky. This is expensive, dangerous (for the pilot, basically any fuckups are heavily punished, and performing a successful autorotation on a v22 is extremely difficult allegedly), and cool. I also like Apaches and Chinooks.
 

Arctic Fox

Does it have to be so cold?
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I will always hold a special affinity for the B29. Such a beautiful weapon of war.
 

The Un-Clit

Can you find it? come on in, look closer!
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No Spooky :heart-empty:
Agreed! no love for the spooky gunship? That thing was fucking voodoo. Death out of nowhere in the middle of the night from a converted cargo plane raining hot metal from a pylon turn.

Take the F-104 out of this list and put in the Spooky. The F-104 killed more NATO pilots then entire squadrons of MiG-21s.
 

Gustav Schuchardt

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The F-35 gets a lot of shit but it changes the strategic balance between the US and China. The US and its allies have a bunch of "helicopter carriers", LHA, LPH, LHD, etc which could accommodate the F-35B and the F-35B can take off from a very minimal airbase with no runway. So in a war with China the US would have a lot more places for fast jets to take off from.

In fact it's plausible in a war without the F-35B China would attempt to use ballistic missiles to sink US carriers and cut runways in US and allied bases in an attempt to stop allied jets taking off. With the F-35B that is almost impossible.

Of course this sort of thing is not lost on the Chinese, and it makes a war less likely.

Was it a good idea to roll the VTOL program into the program developing land and carrier based planes? Maybe not. Still it did guarantee the US and its allies have a bunch of stealthy, supersonic VTOL aircraft and that I think is strategically important.

tl;dr - the F-35B dindu nuffin wrong. It's tryin' to get its life in order, plannin' to go to Asia to defend freedom.
 
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Cedric_Eff

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The F-35 gets a lot of shit but it changes the strategic balance between the US and China. The US and its allies have a bunch of "helicopter carriers", LHA, LPH, LHD, etc which could accommodate the F-35B and the F-35B can take off from a very minimal airbase with no runway. So in a war with China the US would have a lot more places for fast jets to take off from.

In fact it's plausible in a war without the F-35B China would attempt to use ballistic missiles to sink US carriers and cut runways in US and allied bases in an attempt to stop allied jets taking off. With the F-35B that is almost impossible.

Of course this sort of thing is not lost on the Chinese, and it makes a war less likely.

Was it a good idea to roll the VTOL program into the program developing land and carrier based planes? Maybe not. Still it did guarantee the US and its allies have a bunch of stealthy, supersonic VTOL aircraft and that I think is strategically important.

tl;dr - the F-35B dindu nuffin wrong. It's tryin' to get its life in order, plannin' to go to Asia to defend freedom.
But hey, at least they didn’t go for Boeing’s alternative. cough cough *Pelican* cough cough.
 
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EurocopterTigre

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The F-35 gets a lot of shit but it changes the strategic balance between the US and China. The US and its allies have a bunch of "helicopter carriers", LHA, LPH, LHD, etc which could accommodate the F-35B and the F-35B can take off from a very minimal airbase with no runway. So in a war with China the US would have a lot more places for fast jets to take off from.

In fact it's plausible in a war without the F-35B China would attempt to use ballistic missiles to sink US carriers and cut runways in US and allied bases in an attempt to stop allied jets taking off. With the F-35B that is almost impossible.

Of course this sort of thing is not lost on the Chinese, and it makes a war less likely.

Was it a good idea to roll the VTOL program into the program developing land and carrier based planes? Maybe not. Still it did guarantee the US and its allies have a bunch of stealthy, supersonic VTOL aircraft and that I think is strategically important.

tl;dr - the F-35B dindu nuffin wrong. It's tryin' to get its life in order, plannin' to go to Asia to defend freedom.
Lockheed Martin shill pls go.

The X-32 was as mission capable if not moreso and could do SVTOL. The JSF's teething problems have left large chunks of them to more or less grounded and they have had massive cost overruns.
 

Autopsy

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The AMX is behind half a century but I like the way it looks. Almost like something a kid would draw when prompted with "cool fighter plane", except it actually flies.
 

break these cuffs

You must attack the word bastards
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The X-32 reminds me of the Corsair II and is thus the superior aircraft. I also liked flying the X-32 more in '97's pc flight simulator Joint Strike Fight. Check and mate. The A-7 Corsair II is also missing from the poll.
 

Gustav Schuchardt

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Lockheed Martin shill pls go.
If wanting our brave marine aviators, who volunteered to put their lives on the line to defend our freedoms, the tools they need to rather than scrimping and trying to save a measly few hundred billion dollars makes me a shill, then so be it.

Let me tell you of Ernesto Valdes, the bravest man I ever met. I was on a Senate visit to highly moderate rebels in Iran. Ernesto was a first generation Cuban American who had volunteered for Operation Iranian Freedom. As he lay dying from injuries in a field hospital I was the only man with him as my Secret Service security detail had ushered his relatives out of the room. Before he passed he said to me "Senator, all we ask of you folks back home is that you give us the tools we need".

I swore an oath that day to do so and today I introduce the Ernesto Valdes Tools We Need Act, incorporating the Near Peer Competitor Air Superiority Program comprising the F-45, F-50 and F-55 procurements, all of which will create over five hundred jobs in my state.

God bless America and God Bless our great armed forces
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Cedric_Eff

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The X-32 reminds me of the Corsair II and is thus the superior aircraft. I also liked flying the X-32 more in '97's pc flight simulator Joint Strike Fight. Check and mate. The A-7 Corsair II is also missing from the poll.
Too bad Boeing couldn’t get their act together back then tho. If they had their demonstrator fully completed, they might’ve had a chance.

Also added the A-7 on the poll, just for you!
 
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