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[Rogue Boob]

Ok don't know if Hermitcraft is considered to be a part of MCYT or the larger minecraft community but there is a chance they could cement themselves as the former if things go badly.

For those who don't know Hermitcraft is probably the most popular smp after the DreamSMP with around 26 active members with a subscriber count ranging from 80k to 7 mil. The best way to describe the group is a family friendlier version of the DreamSMP, but like I said there are some problems that show up know and then

Fanbase Problems:
Although most members have an older fanbase on the account of either being more technically focused, being a legacy player, or both, some members have a decent amount of younger views watching them. Needless to say this is a potential powder keg for obvious reasons, but thankful nothing serious has happened. Aside from that there hasn't been to many instance of full on stan activity but there have been some close cases like when some members get dogpiled because some fans take the small little storylines they add too seriously (thankfully they seem to be decent at nipping that in the bud when to happens) or shipping members together which gets wired especially since some are already married with kids.

Drama:
There hasn't been anything big aside from the small flareup from the occasional storyline as mentioned, but there has been the shadow of one lurking for years thanks to its founder GenerikB. Generik left the server around 2012-2013 and essentially dumped all server maintenance and admin duty on a member who had little to no experience at the time. Around 2016 he tried to rejoin but was rejected which did cause a little drama but nothing to write about. And most recently when the server was reset to start a new season he announced he was rejoining them via twitch, which was quickly proven false but not before netting around $500 (when caught he claimed it was just a joke and was donating the money to some charity). There's a bit more that could be said like how he still owns the trademark and could bend the group over or how he might be the reason why Mindcrack imploded (old smp from 2012, might be worth a write up in itself). but I don't want to spam a overlong wall of text,

Relationship with DreamSMP:
So far interactions have been limited, but there has been an uptick in overlap in both the fans and members. So much so that some starting to wonder if members from the DreamSMP might jump ship and join Hermitcraft when their new season started, thankfully this didn't happen with only two new members joining, each with no relation to Dream or his "friends", but their are still a few who are worried that if only one person joins in the near future, Hermitcraft will effectively turn into DreamSMP 2.0.

Hermitcraft by nature isn't going to appeal to the same crowd. It's been around a lot longer and is more established, and most of the players have families/actual jobs/are generally well over 20. (Hell, TFC is what, 65?)

Iirc Xisuma and Etho are the only "faceless" characters and nobody really makes a big deal out of it.

I recall last season Xisuma made a PSA about taking server shenanigans too seriously and to generally calm titties because the server members are all friends and in on it, but aside from that not much else happens.

It's refreshing, tbh.

 

[Melight]

Hermitcraft by nature isn't going to appeal to the same crowd. It's been around a lot longer and is more established, and most of the players have families/actual jobs/are generally well over 20. (Hell, TFC is what, 65?)

Iirc Xisuma and Etho are the only "faceless" characters and nobody really makes a big deal out of it.

I recall last season Xisuma made a PSA about taking server shenanigans too seriously and to generally calm titties because the server members are all friends and in on it, but aside from that not much else happens.

It's refreshing, tbh.

The reason it doesnt appeal to the same crowd is the focus on building/redstone. DSMP got the toxic fanbase it has because it appealed to mentally ill theater kids who don´t care about the game but the story and interactions of the characters

 

[Gru]

Hermitcraft by nature isn't going to appeal to the same crowd. It's been around a lot longer and is more established, and most of the players have families/actual jobs/are generally well over 20. (Hell, TFC is what, 65?)

Iirc Xisuma and Etho are the only "faceless" characters and nobody really makes a big deal out of it.

I recall last season Xisuma made a PSA about taking server shenanigans too seriously and to generally calm titties because the server members are all friends and in on it, but aside from that not much else happens.

It's refreshing, tbh.

The people in Hermitcraft also seem to understand that it's a block game and not some le ebic storytelling medium like DreamSMP tries to be. Any "story arcs" are usually just them fucking around and having fun. (Funny how Hermitcraft also technically has a more "diverse" cast, due to disabled people like Scar and older people like TFC, yet the DreamSMP is all just filled with typical streamerpeople, and the token black in Ponk, but who cares about Ponk?)

Hermitcraft fundamentally is more about the game, whereas DreamSMP is trying to tell a shitty story based on politics, war, and trauma. There's even a fucking PTSD arc, several of them. Don't even get me started on that fucking dreadful exile arc. The only person I unironically enjoy from the DreamSMP is Tommy, and only when he's doing stuff not on the DreamSMP (I guess schlatt counts but he isn't on anymore), because at least the kid knows how to be funny first and realizes it's a fucking block game and not l'manburg hamilton borefest the game the movie.

 

[Jester]

The people in Hermitcraft also seem to understand that it's a block game and not some le ebic storytelling medium like DreamSMP tries to be. Any "story arcs" are usually just them fucking around and having fun. (Funny how Hermitcraft also technically has a more "diverse" cast, due to disabled people like Scar and older people like TFC, yet the DreamSMP is all just filled with typical streamerpeople, and the token black in Ponk, but who cares about Ponk?)

Hermitcraft fundamentally is more about the game, whereas DreamSMP is trying to tell a shitty story based on politics, war, and trauma. There's even a fucking PTSD arc, several of them. Don't even get me started on that fucking dreadful exile arc. The only person I unironically enjoy from the DreamSMP is Tommy, and only when he's doing stuff not on the DreamSMP (I guess schlatt counts but he isn't on anymore), because at least the kid knows how to be funny first and realizes it's a fucking block game and not l'manburg hamilton borefest the game the movie.

I would argue that Tubbo, despite not being charismatic, was/is fun to watch, especially in the beginning with Tommy when it wasn’t too serious. I remember seeing a clip of him complaining about how the script made the smp less fun.

 

[Rogue Boob]

(Funny how Hermitcraft also technically has a more "diverse" cast, due to disabled people like Scar and older people like TFC, yet the DreamSMP is all just filled with typical streamerpeople, and the token black in Ponk, but who cares about Ponk?)

Literally who

But seriously, HC added two new female players this season (one of whom I'd heard of - both seem to be Brits again like Stress and Cleo, so eh). Grian also had that BigB guy on his 3rd Life spinoff server.

 

[murdercats]

Literally who

But seriously, HC added two new female players this season (one of whom I'd heard of - both seem to be Brits again like Stress and Cleo, so eh). Grian also had that BigB guy on his 3rd Life spinoff server.

Gem's canadian and Pearl's an aussie.

 

[Gru]

On the topic of SMPs, DreamSMP really ruined them.

I remember when if a youtuber announced they were making an SMP with their friends, it was usually just fun shit and good videos, but now 90% of the time it's something called _____SMP and includes the shitty roleplay and everything else from the DreamSMP. Most of the time they can't even be original in the shitty roleplay, there's gotta be the Tommy stand-in, the Wilbur stand-in, etc. I long for the days of fun block game compared to terrible roleplay from people who can't act. A little bit of roleplay is fine and natural, but these entirely scripted, shitty SMPs seem to be taking over.

It's not even exclusive to youtubers, if you're looking for a small SMP you'll have to sort through a million DreamSMP clones to find anything interesting.

I would argue that Tubbo, despite not being charismatic, was/is fun to watch, especially in the beginning with Tommy when it wasn’t too serious. I remember seeing a clip of him complaining about how the script made the smp less fun.

Tubbo works well because he bounces off of other people, but when he's left to read off the garbage "script" that Wilbur wrote in his delusions of grandeur of being a "good writer", by himself, and being expected to carry the scene, he just falls flat.

That's another thing about the DreamSMP, nothing is "written" to anyone's strength. The closest are Tommy and Schlatt's best moments, but everyone else feels like they're trying to do something they're just not capable of.

 

[Novichops]

That's another thing about the DreamSMP, nothing is "written" to anyone's strength. The closest are Tommy and Schlatt's best moments, but everyone else feels like they're trying to do something they're just not capable of.

Curious to see what people think of Ranboo, Phil, and Techno here. Also do you mind elaborating how it’s not “written to anyone’s strength”?

Spoiler: Retard Alert

I agree with you on Schlatt and a little on Tommy. I’m not sure if I could form an opinion on Phil and Techno since they don’t really take it seriously/roleplay all that much. As for Ranboo I think he’s just playing some edgy Tumblr character. It’s not edgy to the point of insensitive/glorification or anything it’s just kind of meh.

Wilbur wrote in his delusions of grandeur of being a "good writer" by himself

Sorry for being a moron, but I’m a bit confused here, what exactly do you mean by this?

 

[Gru]

Sorry for being a moron, but I’m a bit confused here, what exactly do you mean by this?

This was just me forgetting to put a comma at "by himself", which was referring to Tubbo acting out the scripts by himself.

Curious to see what people think of Ranboo, Phil, and Techno here. Also do you mind elaborating how it’s not “written to anyone’s strength”?

I agree with you on Schlatt and a little on Tommy. I’m not sure if I could form an opinion on Phil and Techno since they don’t really take it seriously/roleplay all that much. As for Ranboo I think he’s just playing some edgy Tumblr character. It’s not edgy to the point of insensitive/glorification or anything it’s just kind of meh

I was moreso referring to the "background group", people like Awesamdude, Antfrost, CaptainPuffy, etc. Though I do have my qualms with Ranboo's bad acting, it's more the people that really can't act being fitted into roles that require a lot of it, like sam with the prison warden and antfrost with the egg, badboyhalo was also particularly bad for most of the egg plot.

The thing is that everyone writes their own scripts now, at least Wilbur understood that some people can act and some can't. With everyone writing their own scripts, they all want to be the main characters of their own story, instead of being fit into lesser roles that they can play better.

 

[Lieutenant Rasczak]

Spoiler: Retard Alert

I agree with you on Schlatt and a little on Tommy. I’m not sure if I could form an opinion on Phil and Techno since they don’t really take it seriously/roleplay all that much. As for Ranboo I think he’s just playing some edgy Tumblr character. It’s not edgy to the point of insensitive/glorification or anything it’s just kind of meh.

Sorry for being a moron, but I’m a bit confused here, what exactly do you mean by this?

It means that Wilbur is trying to be a writer on the level of Shakespeare or H.P. Lovecraft when he'll never actually achieve said level. It's like the Dunning Kreuger effect but with instead of knowledge on a particular topic, it's with power and influence in the writing scene.

 

[vern]

Ok I know this thread is mainly supposed to be shitting on Minecraft youtubers and people who like them, but I was reminded why I still like Etho after all these years and consider him one if not the best person to have come out of MCYT as a whole.

I might actually get pissed if the MCYT stans gets so bad he gets toxic stans or more likely some other youtubers stans start attacking him cause "reasons"

 

[The Vaper Friend]

antfrost with the egg, badboyhalo was also particularly bad for most of the egg plot.

That egg storyline was very retarded, even for a Minecraft RP story. I can get people caring for blocks the built on like L'manberg but the egg thing was retarded to me as an adult.

Curious to see what people think of Ranboo, Phil, and Techno here.

Last thing I watched from the lore of the SMP was when Techno and Dream blew up L'manberg once and for all. I thought Ranboo was ok playing his role of being involved with the anarchists while the rest thought he wasn't. I don't remember Phil saying much that sounded like a line from a writer, it seemed he did he own thing during it. Same with Techno till he got to his speech stand off with Tommy after most of it was blown up and he had to spout lines about some Greek dude comparing him to Tommy.

 

[Lieutenant Rasczak]

Ok I know this thread is mainly supposed to be shitting on Minecraft youtubers and people who like them, but I was reminded why I still like Etho after all these years and consider him one if not the best person to have come out of MCYT as a whole.
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I might actually get pissed if the MCYT stans gets so bad he gets toxic stans or more likely some other youtubers stans start attacking him cause "reasons"

I wouldn't consider Etho to be part of the "MCYT" crowd. Just Dream and his Clique of orbiting leaches are generally part of this crowd. If other minecraft content creators get stans, the whole community is screwed and the minecraft community will go minecraft 2016 mode again, except for the autists on 2b2t which is stan repellant at it's finest.

That egg storyline was very retarded, even for a Minecraft RP story. I can get people caring for blocks the built on like L'manberg but the egg thing was retarded to me as an adult.

Most of these kiddies and stans in MCYT don't know good writing, and even when I write let's say for example an OG country in a fictional world, I find it to be amateur shit that would be riddled with errors.

 

[Shaka Brah]

except for the autists on 2b2t which is stan repellant at it's finest.

If Dream ever opened a fan server it would have hacked bedrock swastikas within the first hour. A lot of people on minecraft like trolling the anarchy way.

 

[financhu]

Curious to see what people think of Ranboo, Phil, and Techno here.

Honestly, I fuckin hate Ranboo. I know hardly anything about him, he hasn't been memorable in a single thing I've watched, and honestly it's probably more 'cos the ranblacks are annoying as hell than anything he's done. I don't like his stupid mask, I don't like the way he tries to sound charismatic with his rich sounding voice but never says anything worth hearing and says things in pretty much the same tone every time because he has no acting ability. All the mary sue traits piled on his character when he has no history and no reason to care about him... He's like the opposite of schlatt.

I can respect ph1lz4 as the only adult babysitting the group. Technoblade... I used to like his content a lot, but then he started playing skyblock, which is boring as hell, and stopped making videos about what he was known for (hypixel pvp gamemodes). The arc he wrote wasn't as good as he thought it would be, because greek tragedy doesn't translate very well to minecraft roleplaying I guess.

edit: MATI react is fair, the shit that's comes out of Ranboo's fanbase while he's got no notable content whatsoever makes me MATI

 

[Novichops]

Honestly, I fuckin hate Ranboo. I know hardly anything about him, he hasn't been memorable in a single thing I've watched, and honestly it's probably more 'cos the ranblacks are annoying as hell than anything he's done. I don't like his stupid mask, I don't like the way he tries to sound charismatic with his rich sounding voice but never says anything worth hearing and says things in pretty much the same tone every time because he has no acting ability. All the mary sue traits piled on his character when he has no history and no reason to care about him... He's like the opposite of schlatt.

I can respect ph1lz4 as the only adult babysitting the group. Technoblade... I used to like his content a lot, but then he started playing skyblock, which is boring as hell, and stopped making videos about what he was known for (hypixel pvp gamemodes). The arc he wrote wasn't as good as he thought it would be, because greek tragedy doesn't translate very well to minecraft roleplaying I guess.

edit: MATI react is fair, the shit that's comes out of Ranboo's fanbase while he's got no notable content whatsoever makes me MATI

Nice copypasta

 

[Gar For Archer]

Ok I know this thread is mainly supposed to be shitting on Minecraft youtubers and people who like them, but I was reminded why I still like Etho after all these years and consider him one if not the best person to have come out of MCYT as a whole.
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I might actually get pissed if the MCYT stans gets so bad he gets toxic stans or more likely some other youtubers stans start attacking him cause "reasons"

If you’re gonna talk about Etho, you also have to talk about Hermitcraft, which is where all the “adult” Minecraft youtubers with generally older fanbases (left over from the first Minecraft YouTube boom) are gathered.

I haven’t watched them in ages but still get their videos in my sub box sometimes, so I guess they’re still doing well for themselves (though I dunno if Etho still plays with them).

 

[Rogue Boob]

If you’re gonna talk about Etho, you also have to talk about Hermitcraft, which is where all the “adult” Minecraft youtubers with generally older fanbases (left over from the first Minecraft YouTube boom) are gathered.

I haven’t watched them in ages but still get their videos in my sub box sometimes, so I guess they’re still doing well for themselves (though I dunno if Etho still plays with them).

He does, and quite well.

ETA, Etho and a lot of the older crowd have the right idea. Just do what you want with gaming and do it for fun. A hobby that becomes a job stops being enjoyable real quick. Props to the people who can successfully monetize a hobby without ending up hating it, of course.

 

[Xerxes IX]

On the topic of SMPs, DreamSMP really ruined them.

I remember when if a youtuber announced they were making an SMP with their friends, it was usually just fun shit and good videos, but now 90% of the time it's something called _____SMP and includes the shitty roleplay and everything else from the DreamSMP. Most of the time they can't even be original in the shitty roleplay, there's gotta be the Tommy stand-in, the Wilbur stand-in, etc. I long for the days of fun block game compared to terrible roleplay from people who can't act. A little bit of roleplay is fine and natural, but these entirely scripted, shitty SMPs seem to be taking over.

It's not even exclusive to youtubers, if you're looking for a small SMP you'll have to sort through a million DreamSMP clones to find anything interesting.


Tubbo works well because he bounces off of other people, but when he's left to read off the garbage "script" that Wilbur wrote in his delusions of grandeur of being a "good writer", by himself, and being expected to carry the scene, he just falls flat.

That's another thing about the DreamSMP, nothing is "written" to anyone's strength. The closest are Tommy and Schlatt's best moments, but everyone else feels like they're trying to do something they're just not capable of.

Anyone know about what happened to SMPEarth? Apparently it was supposed to be even more plot/roleplay driven than DreamSMP but it imploded almost right out the gate. SMPEarth was a weird choice for a roleplay server because it already had a gimmick with the Earth map and being a faction based server. Also because there were a lot of well known youtubers who played on it for a stream or two, but also streamers that'd end up as part of the MCYT clique like Techno, Tommy, Tubbo, and Wilbur.

 

[thinking about mr hands]

Anyone know about what happened to SMPEarth? Apparently it was supposed to be even more plot/roleplay driven than DreamSMP but it imploded almost right out the gate. SMPEarth was a weird choice for a roleplay server because it already had a gimmick with the Earth map and being a faction based server. Also because there were a lot of well known youtubers who played on it for a stream or two, but also streamers that'd end up as part of the MCYT clique like Techno, Tommy, Tubbo, and Wilbur.

I think people just stopped playing on it and it reached its finale. Everyone grew bored and moved onto different things. Just like the DreamSMP, I believe the only one keeping SMPEarth alive was Tommyinnit (and maybe Tubbo?) because he was actively seeking out ways to create conflict and make things entertaining. Once he finished his arc however, I think he just kind of decided to call it quits there, so after that everyone else just disbanded.
Also it might have also been the fact that VoiceOverPete was apparently being weird with young girls and making a lot of sexual remarks towards other female streamers on SMPEarth which caused a brief controversy, it might have also been a reason for people to stop playing.