Orbiter Miriam Yaniv / Miriam Altman - Jonathan Yaniv's mother - enabler, spends 24 hours "or more" every day with her son

Is Miriam Yaniv...

  • A victim of elder abuse by her psychopathic son?

    Votes: 153 31.0%
  • Experiencing a psychotic break or folie a deux?

    Votes: 172 34.9%
  • Going to register a KF account to tell us to stop being mean to her boychik?

    Votes: 139 28.2%
  • An incestuous pedo parent who taught Jonathan everything he knows?

    Votes: 204 41.4%
  • The mastermind behind the ballwaxing case and other vexatious litigation for $$$ purposes?

    Votes: 112 22.7%
  • Actually dead for years, with her animatronic-filled corpse hauled to council meetings/courtrooms?

    Votes: 102 20.7%
  • Terrified of Yitzhak seeing the way Jonathan has destroyed the Yaniv family name?

    Votes: 98 19.9%

  • Total voters
    493

beansontoast

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a few pages ago people were wondering what miriam means when she says "the voice", I don't think it's a pet name for her son but an canadian organization that helps deaf children. I think I read either in here or in some other thread that she is somehow involved with them but I couldn't find any unambiguous screens, sorry

and lol @ nulls twitter. I didn't know it was his, saw some people i follow interact with him recently and I just assumed it was some lefty with shoah guilt larping as a jew (I was really shooketh when i found out a shit ton of lefties larp as jews, they're insane)
 

tramfest

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a few pages ago people were wondering what miriam means when she says "the voice", I don't think it's a pet name for her son but an canadian organization that helps deaf children. I think I read either in here or in some other thread that she is somehow involved with them but I couldn't find any unambiguous screens, sorry

and lol @ nulls twitter. I didn't know it was his, saw some people i follow interact with him recently and I just assumed it was some lefty with shoah guilt larping as a jew (I was really shooketh when i found out a shit ton of lefties larp as jews, they're insane)
she called him "the voice of lgbtq" in court testimony several times.
 

Vagivagal Syncope

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There's a hebrew phrase that I've heard a few times over the years from some of my more salty israeli acquaintences. It goes:
Kol chol shachor ba'laila. That basically translates into: "Every hole is black at night."

Jail would be a long way from an Israeli "Volvo Villa"

I think we should stop blaming a language barrier on Miriam's behaviour. It's bullshit. I spent most of my childhood in the hebrew school system and most Israelis speak English like that. There is no language barrier - it's just their accent (or their english teacher's accent) getting in the way.

Considering that Miriam is deaf, the jokes write themselves.
I don't think she's really deaf. She's just mastered the art of ignoring everyone around her while the voices in her head overtake.
 
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2nd_time_user

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I don't think she's really deaf. She's just mastered the art of ignoring everyone around her while the voices in her head overtake.

Have you checked out the Miriam_yaniv account on Twitter? (You don't have to have a Twitter, just go to Twitter.com and put in that name.)

She's an Israeli immigrant, fluent in Hebrew, seems pretty invested in her Jewishness and not just in a secular way. She talks constantly about regularly going to synagogue. Bur she's there saying "GOD sees all, trust in Him" kind of shit. And all the Jews I've known who bother with synagogue don't invoke God in what sounds like a Christian fundie way. In fact, many prefer to spell "God" as "G-d." So first question, is her religiosity, her interpretion, "accepted"?

Second, and this goes to the secular as well as the religious aspect--Miriam's been on record as donating to JCC, going to community Shabbat dinners and so forth. And as that's getting out, it's getting out that they're Jewish and more references about that, which could put these orgs and individuals on the side of "decrying hate speech" and, to the Yanivs, that means supporting them.

So second question, when if it, if it ever is, kosher for a local Jewish community to shun people like JY/MY?
 

Vagivagal Syncope

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Have you checked out the Miriam_yaniv account on Twitter? (You don't have to have a Twitter, just go to Twitter.com and put in that name.)

She's an Israeli immigrant, fluent in Hebrew, seems pretty invested in her Jewishness and not just in a secular way. She talks constantly about regularly going to synagogue. Bur she's there saying "GOD sees all, trust in Him" kind of shit. And all the Jews I've known who bother with synagogue don't invoke God in what sounds like a Christian fundie way. In fact, many prefer to spell "God" as "G-d." So first question, is her religiosity, her interpretion, "accepted"?

Second, and this goes to the secular as well as the religious aspect--Miriam's been on record as donating to JCC, going to community Shabbat dinners and so forth. And as that's getting out, it's getting out that they're Jewish and more references about that, which could put these orgs and individuals on the side of "decrying hate speech" and, to the Yanivs, that means supporting them.

So second question, when if it, if it ever is, kosher for a local Jewish community to shun people like JY/MY?
Yes I have. What it demonstrates to me is that she's a typical Ashkenazi Israeli baby-boomer. Many of them are very emotional but not in a pansy cry-all-over kind of way. More like they go from zero to bat-shit crazy angry in a single heartbeat.

I'll admit I was a bit of a trouble-maker in school and I knew exactly what it took to make a hebrew teacher explode in an undying fit of anger, and it didn't take much - and it looked and sounded exactly like Miriam.

Secondly, while she's an Israeli immigrant, her family is not from there. They immigrated TO Israel like many did from Russia, Germany, or Poland and brought their family traditions and foibles with them. Not all Israeli jews are religious, either. There are lots of cultural or secular jews in Israel. Typing the word "God" instead of "G-d" doesn't mean anything except she's likely not an orthodox jew.

She may have been more religious before she met Yaniv's dad, but people become less religious in judaism all the time.

Regarding her donations to the JCC - lots of jews actually donate yearly and forget that they do. You can be set up to automatically donate every year from a credit card or even a bank account in a kind of set it and forget it Ronco style operation. It's extremely easy too, as I think they even still take cheques.

Community shabbat dinners are usually open to even the least religious. If you can prove you're jewish, you can come. In fact, my friend who's not jewish used to go with her jewish boyfriend. The day after they broke up, she got a call from the organizer saying if she showed up, she'd be escorted out.

...on the other hand, if someone is a below-the-radar paedo, and the mainstream (ie: conservative) news hasn't outed them yet, they usually still have a place in the community. She's not the one being accused of paedo, so I doubt she'd be shunned, but Jon certainly would be banned - unless he agreed to rabbinical counselling through the penal system.
 

Nerd Bird

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Looking at that picture, Yaniv isn’t the craziest looking mf in the family.

Look at Ol’ Yitzhak, who looks like a former professional chess player/professor of nuclear physics, who’ve recently decided to dedicate the rest of his life to being a James Bond villain. (Or at least is the head of some Eugenics program.)

Looks like Yaniv was close to his mother already back then. Notice how they stand together, his arm just around her, while Yitzhak is standing a little isolated behind them.

My two cents on what I think Jonny's life was like.

Bet his mum and dad were fairly violent towards each other, they probably spoiled young Jonny in part because he's an only child and in part because each of them wanted young Jonny to like them better than the other.

I'm guessing as Jonny got older say 9/10 he started to become a bit of a disappointment to his dad who in turn grew strict and cold towards his son hoping that Jonny would start acting more like a normal boy, Jonny at this stage was exceptionally close to his mother probably even protective of her when his dad would go off on one. She in turn would heap attention on him. I'm guessing his dad or both of them had affairs outside the marriage. Jonny wasn't like the other kids he was effeminate and preferred spending time with his mother and her friends probably because he was afraid of his father and was nervous around him.

I also think when his hormones kicked in he'd go through his parents room looking for things out of the ordinary, pads his mother was using, dirty magazines or tapes his father had. I'd put money on it that he jacked himself off several times listening to his parents having sex. I also think he wore pads over his penis under his cloths when he was walking around the house because he liked the thought of something foreign/taboo touching his junk.

He liked girls that much is very clear but being a mummy's boy and a bit wierd never got any action. I bet he was the kind of kid that demanded people like him and when they didn't they were instant enemys. I also think he was bullied alot because he liked to throw hissyfits. Having no real friends of his own he had no one to turn to but his mother.

As he got older he started to resent his mother and probably blames her for turning out the way he did. She having coddled him for most of his life spoiled him even more even though nothing she did made him any happier. He tried to rekindle his relationship with his father, after pushing his mother away it cemented their relationship and I bet they bonded over it, that and the fact that Jonny probably hid alot of his odd behaviour around his father.

When his father died I bet he really felt the blow. Now he was just left with the mother who turned him into the freak he knew he was deep down. His mother still spoils him, she's overbearing and very over protective of her boy, he in turn uses her like a weapon, behind the scenes though he's nasty and probably violent towards her just like his dad was to her. He has now become a surrogate husband and she's become his surrogate wife. Their relationship mirrors his parents in all but bedroom activity. Jonny still needs an outlet for his desires and since no one in real life would touch him he seeks his thrills online. His mother isn't enough anymore, he needs more and more attention, he needs a real relationship, unfortunately for him there isn't anyone that fits his thoughts of what an ideal woman should be and even if he came close he'd likely be rejected. He can push the boundaries more online and that's what he's been doing for years now. Getting close to underage girls making them uncomfortable because even though he's now in his thirties he's still a teenager in his head. He hasn't grown up or matured sexually he's done none of the normal teenage stuff that everyone gets up to, so he's still stuck in that mindset with the added perversions he has.
 
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I also think when his hormones kicked in he'd go through his parents room looking for things out of the ordinary, pads his mother was using, dirty magazines or tapes his father had. I'd put money on it that he jacked himself off several times listening to his parents having sex. I also think he wore pads over his penis under his cloths when he was walking around the house because he liked the thought of something foreign/taboo touching his junk.
You put an awful lot of thought into that paragraph.
 

Nerd Bird

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You put an awful lot of thought into that paragraph.
I touched on the main points of why he's so fucked up mentally. Jonny is a psychologists wet dream. Had experience with someone exactly like Jonny boy, all but the tranny thing which Jonny doesn't really think he is, just using it to play the system and to try and get closer to girls in general. I called him being violent before he displayed his violent behaviour in public. I didn't want to spend too much time dwelling on the darker aspects of his character because quite frankly he makes my skin crawl. It won't end well for him either by his own hand or someone else's. I'm guessing someone else because someone as self obsessed as John is would never think of offing themselves, unless it's an attention seeking half assed attempt to garner sympathy and to be treated like the special little snowflake he thinks he is which is something he constantly craves.
 

Gustav Schuchardt

Trans exclusionary radical feminazi.
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Community shabbat dinners are usually open to even the least religious. If you can prove you're jewish, you can come. In fact, my friend who's not jewish used to go with her jewish boyfriend. The day after they broke up, she got a call from the organizer saying if she showed up, she'd be escorted out.
I bet everyone there would be horrified (and probably litigious) if they were excluded from somewhere because they were Jewish and yet they see nothing wrong with this.
 

Vagivagal Syncope

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I bet everyone there would be horrified (and probably litigious) if they were excluded from somewhere because they were Jewish and yet they see nothing wrong with this.
Not exactly.

Look at the history of jews and you'll find they've put up with being excluded for a long time and in most cases, rulings were that it was OK to exclude them from pretty much anything because "jews own everything, anyway."

At the same time, orthodox jews regularly discriminate against and exclude non orthodox jews.

If a congregation kicks a member out, they usually have a good reason to. If you want to get a really good idea of how bad it can get, look at the whole concept of how a jewish divorce (Get) works, and what an "agunah" is in the (usually) orthodox community.

None of this has anything to do with a dude, dressed like a lady, who shows up to a dinner.
 
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pr3nt177

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Mama Yaniv has completely scrubbed her Twitter. No tweets no tweets/replies. Not even the pinned post.
Connected to the "I was sexually assaulted" revelation?
Funnily enough, there's more there now than there was yesterday(?). Looks as though jonny's been busy cleaning his own and Snrs' accounts as much as poss.

edited: Monday, not yesterday, it was noticed mama was getting a good hosing down.
 
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