Modern Web Woes - I'm mad at the internet

Basil II

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I know that Chome OS runs on (mostly) budget laptops, but it looks like shit. Unless you install Linux on it, you can't download any new non mobile software because it's compatible with nothing. You can't do shit with it except for browsing the web and downloading android apps.
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This looks like a fake MacOS X you'd see in a shitty movie.
The only reason chromeOS exists is so schools can give shitty laptops to students and not have to worry about them downloading fortnite.
 

Razel

Give me the dust of my father.
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People are starting to wake up to the reality that is a monopolized internet, but I fear it's too little too late. There's a ubiquitous option available to fulfill any need, and each of them is better funded, more streamlined, more effective, and easier to use than any conscientious alternatives someone would care to build.

Need to do some shopping? Amazon. Need to look something up? Google. Wondering what your best friend from high school is up to? Facebook. Want up-to-the-minute updates? Check the hash tag on Twitter.

When your entire audience is captured by a given platform already, it's very hard to draw users to your platform instead, and nothing captures audiences like apathy and comfort.

The current shitstorm with Reddit's already shaping up to illustrate this beautifully; A lot of the users seem to be complacent, sticking around and bitching while they continue to keep Reddit's page rank up, while the ones who are leaving altogether are jumping ship to Reddit clones where either history will repeat itself, or they'll end up stranded in places like Voat where a specific type of expat quickly dominates and creates another echo chamber where there is no nuanced conversation to be had from the very start.

We need a do-over on the whole damned internet, and I'm not talking about unusable degenerate infested shitholes like Tor that still depend on "clearnet" services.
 

Mr. 0

god im not good at computer how did this get here
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We need a do-over on the whole damned internet, and I'm not talking about unusable degenerate infested shitholes like Tor that still depend on "clearnet" services.
In such a scenario how do you stop history from repeating itself at a much faster rate due to the big guns currently behind the status quo already in place?
 

Razel

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In such a scenario how do you stop history from repeating itself at a much faster rate due to the big guns currently behind the status quo already in place?
That is an extremely good point. The only thing I can think of would be some sort of bandwidth, file size, or unique visitor limit baked into the protocol to prevent bloated "one stop shop" type sites from appearing. Otherwise, we'd be chasing the "free internet" dragon again every few years.
 

Goldman

PROTECKING THE LYFE CYCLE
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In such a scenario how do you stop history from repeating itself at a much faster rate due to the big guns currently behind the status quo already in place?
The problem is that the Internet became useful to and easy to access for normies. When the internet/information superhighway was free, it was hard to get on, cumbersome, and you had to sit your ass at home to access it. Essentially, we were displaced by the newcomers once you can send video and high quality pictures quickly and easily, and big corps took notice.
 

Never Scored

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The problem is that the Internet became useful to and easy to access for normies. When the internet/information superhighway was free, it was hard to get on, cumbersome, and you had to sit your ass at home to access it. Essentially, we were displaced by the newcomers once you can send video and high quality pictures quickly and easily, and big corps took notice.
100% this. As soon as it went from a place for nerds and weirdos to talk about Star Trek and exchange furry porn to something profitable its ruination was inevitable. Your best bet is to hang out in places that fly under the radar such as here or Telnet BBSes or Craigslist's community forums or whatever and fuck the rest of it unless you need it for work or to get your dick sucked.

There's a certain bland corporatism that follows the exciting entrepreneurial phase that's absolute fucking cancer.
 

Smaug's Smokey Hole

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That is an extremely good point. The only thing I can think of would be some sort of bandwidth, file size, or unique visitor limit baked into the protocol to prevent bloated "one stop shop" type sites from appearing. Otherwise, we'd be chasing the "free internet" dragon again every few years.
Angelfire 2.0, free 10MB of storage if you don't get too many visitors. I get the idea but I would like to see english spread across the world as a shitposting lingua franca before that happens, with the exception of china, block their firewall please.
 
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LazarusOwenhart

Terrainist Shitlord!
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The only reason chromeOS exists is so schools can give shitty laptops to students and not have to worry about them downloading fortnite.
Yeah my kids school tried to foist a fucking netbook off on my daughter (wanting me to pay for half of it) telling me that it was essential for her schoolwork that she have a computer at home. There's a 6 PC network, server and a ton of laptops in this house, she's fuckin' fine.
 
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Razel

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It can be infuriating when one searches for something that can be briefly explained in text, but it seems the only results that show up are TL;DW YouTube videos. Do we really need a 10 minute rambling YouTube video explaining how to turn off JavaScript?
This has become such a pandemic. I often scour like a madman for actual text references on things, but it's getting more and more difficult to avoid YouTube for this. I've recently been getting back into programming with Python, and there was one bit of something or other that I just couldn't wrap my head around partially because every single fucking one of the few pages I could even find were all written in such a way that you'd have to be a veteran in the language to get them, so I finally had to break down and watch a video by some doofus in a fedora. On the other hand, just a couple of days ago I was digging for reference materials on something or other and literally could not find a non-YouTube link on the subject.

On this note, an addition to my "hate" list: The egocentric nature of users on places like StackExchange.
There are so many condescending pricks in the answers pretending a question that isn't worded perfectly is indecipherable gipbberish, or like you're a total retard for not innately knowing whatever it is you're asking about. There's also way too many people who ask a legitimately good question about something fucky and then either disappear into the ether or post nothing more than "I figured it out!" once they get to the bottom of the issue.

Angelfire 2.0, free 10MB of storage if you don't get too many visitors. I get the idea but I would like to see english spread across the world as a shitposting lingua franca before that happens, with the exception of china, block their firewall please.
Oh man, I like that idea a lot. I may look into seeing what it'd take to spin something like that up.
 

sasazuka

Standing in the school hallway.
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Here's a brand new woe for me, high definition-only Youtube videos.

So, the other day, I randomly wanted to find music videos that pay homage to Lasse Hallstrom's music videos for ABBA, one of the first bands to have shot proper music videos for nearly all of their singles. There are thousands of ABBA tributes but not all that many that specifically copy the style of the music videos without being straight parodies (e.g. "Supa Doopa" from Not the Nine O'Clock News).

This is the first music video that specifically seems to be what I wanted to find, for "It's a Joke" by Boniface, where an article about it specifically talked about the ABBA music video influence.


I like ABBA and I like 1980s Corvettes. However, I can't watch this music video without a lot of stuttering because the only resolution options available are 1440p on the low end and 2160p on the high end. It's basically unwatchable on this HP laptop from 2013 where I don't even watch Youtube videos in 480p very often, and when I do, I have to let it buffer a little. (I occasionally download videos in 720p, video resolutions higher than that are pointless on this small screen.)

I was under the impression that Youtube automatically makes lower-resolution versions of videos when they're processing uploads but I guess low-resolution options can be disabled now?
 

Vecr

"nanoposts with 90° spatial rotational symmetries"
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Here's a brand new woe for me, high definition-only Youtube videos.

So, the other day, I randomly wanted to find music videos that pay homage to Lasse Hallstrom's music videos for ABBA, one of the first bands to have shot proper music videos for nearly all of their singles. There are thousands of ABBA tributes but not all that many that specifically copy the style of the music videos without being straight parodies (e.g. "Supa Doopa" from Not the Nine O'Clock News).

This is the first music video that specifically seems to be what I wanted to find, for "It's a Joke" by Boniface, where an article about it specifically talked about the ABBA music video influence.


I like ABBA and I like 1980s Corvettes. However, I can't watch this music video without a lot of stuttering because the only resolution options available are 1440p on the low end and 2160p on the high end. It's basically unwatchable on this HP laptop from 2013 where I don't even watch Youtube videos in 480p very often, and when I do, I have to let it buffer a little. (I occasionally download videos in 720p, video resolutions higher than that are pointless on this small screen.)

I was under the impression that Youtube automatically makes lower-resolution versions of videos when they're processing uploads but I guess low-resolution options can be disabled now?
Does your laptop have any type of hardware acceleration? If so, you could configure a video player to use it, after downloading the video in a supported format, h264 for example.
 
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Kikkoman

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Here's a brand new woe for me, high definition-only Youtube videos.

So, the other day, I randomly wanted to find music videos that pay homage to Lasse Hallstrom's music videos for ABBA, one of the first bands to have shot proper music videos for nearly all of their singles. There are thousands of ABBA tributes but not all that many that specifically copy the style of the music videos without being straight parodies (e.g. "Supa Doopa" from Not the Nine O'Clock News).

This is the first music video that specifically seems to be what I wanted to find, for "It's a Joke" by Boniface, where an article about it specifically talked about the ABBA music video influence.


I like ABBA and I like 1980s Corvettes. However, I can't watch this music video without a lot of stuttering because the only resolution options available are 1440p on the low end and 2160p on the high end. It's basically unwatchable on this HP laptop from 2013 where I don't even watch Youtube videos in 480p very often, and when I do, I have to let it buffer a little. (I occasionally download videos in 720p, video resolutions higher than that are pointless on this small screen.)

I was under the impression that Youtube automatically makes lower-resolution versions of videos when they're processing uploads but I guess low-resolution options can be disabled now?
You can get them to show up if you have h264ify https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/h264ify/aleakchihdccplidncghkekgioiakgal (i think there is a firefox fork too)
This makes the highest available resolution on that video to be 1080p for some reason.
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SHOVE IT UP YOUR UGLY ASS!
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Here's a brand new woe for me, high definition-only Youtube videos.
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I was under the impression that Youtube automatically makes lower-resolution versions of videos when they're processing uploads but I guess low-resolution options can be disabled now?
It's available in as low as 144p, if you want that for some reason.

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Lumin

Specs are under "About"
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It's a commonly voiced opinion, but I miss active forums for niche topics and interests. There are a couple lolcows I browse on here, but to be completely honest my favorite parts of the site are the off-topic boards. It's just very cozy having "ITT we cook x" threads or watching something like a gaming event and talking about it with a small community.

I miss the old Internet, and it's sad to think of what's been lost.

I also personally miss krautchan ;_;
 
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Razel

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It's a commonly voiced opinion, but I miss active forums for niche topics and interests. There are a couple lolcows I browse on here, but to be completely honest my favorite parts of the site are the off-topic boards. It's just very cozy having "ITT we cook x" threads or watching something like a gaming event and talking about it with a small community.

I miss the old Internet, and it's sad to think of what's been lost.

I also personally miss krautchan ;_;
The internet felt so different back then. The majority of social interactions took place via some forum, chat room, or BBS that was run by somebody passionate about the same shit you were. If the powers that be got drunk on power or acted like douchebags, you'd just jump ship to another location.

Each of these venues was also much smaller, making them more personal. Signatures, avatars, status messages etc gave you small peeks into someone else's personality, and the discussions would often show you sides of people their own family and friends in "meatspace" never got to see.

If you got to know someone well enough online, or had friends close enough to talk to outside of school, you could stack them side by side in your IM client of choice and have off the cuff interactions with eachother, often times switching between clients (or using something like Trillian) to juggle various social circles that favored one protocol or another.

Over time you'd settle in on certain boards, idle in certain chats, build habits of messaging certain friends when you were feeling playful/philosophical/creative/etc, and feel like you'd carved out your own little corner of this infinitely expanding ocean of information around you.

~20 years later, I can still remember specific chat rooms, forums, and friends on AIM/YIM/MSN as well as the conversations I had there.
 

tehpope

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Here's a brand new woe for me, high definition-only Youtube videos.

So, the other day, I randomly wanted to find music videos that pay homage to Lasse Hallstrom's music videos for ABBA, one of the first bands to have shot proper music videos for nearly all of their singles. There are thousands of ABBA tributes but not all that many that specifically copy the style of the music videos without being straight parodies (e.g. "Supa Doopa" from Not the Nine O'Clock News).

This is the first music video that specifically seems to be what I wanted to find, for "It's a Joke" by Boniface, where an article about it specifically talked about the ABBA music video influence.


I like ABBA and I like 1980s Corvettes. However, I can't watch this music video without a lot of stuttering because the only resolution options available are 1440p on the low end and 2160p on the high end. It's basically unwatchable on this HP laptop from 2013 where I don't even watch Youtube videos in 480p very often, and when I do, I have to let it buffer a little. (I occasionally download videos in 720p, video resolutions higher than that are pointless on this small screen.)

I was under the impression that Youtube automatically makes lower-resolution versions of videos when they're processing uploads but I guess low-resolution options can be disabled now?
That's fucking horrifying. I'm not wasting bandwidth on this shit. ISPs like comcast already cap you at 1tb.

The weird thing is I ran youtube-dl on the link and it does show video quality below 1440p.
 

ThatOneLurker

I just keep moving forward.
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That is an extremely good point. The only thing I can think of would be some sort of bandwidth, file size, or unique visitor limit baked into the protocol to prevent bloated "one stop shop" type sites from appearing. Otherwise, we'd be chasing the "free internet" dragon again every few years.

It would never happen, but imagine a reality where every time the internet becomes an unusable cesspool, we burn it all down and start over. A cycle that everyone partakes in and is ingrained in the internet's culture.
 

Muskrat

Ignorance Is Strength
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The current state of the internet can be attributed to many different causes, but the most notable cause is monetization. The largest websites in existence at the moment are corporate-owned and feature heavy usage of advertisements and data collection. Google. Facebook. Twitter. Reddit. Discord. All of them are massive behemoths of companies that take your usage of the website and monetize it. Any "goals" of progressing society, increasing social connectivity, and providing a good experience are kept second to maximizing profits (If they were ever genuine in the first place).
Everyone wants money at this point. Regular idiots saw people make it big on websites like Youtube, and everyone jumped on the boat of producing the same boring mass-produced content created with the sole purpose of raking in as many views as possible. Youtube is surprisingly open with the type of content it allows (Except for the most extreme content and anything related to politics of course), but you rarely see this because everyone is so adamant about keep their videos "monetized" and pleasing their corporate overlords that everything ends up being kid-friendly and bubbly. Does Coca Cola really give a shit if someone uses the word Cunt in a video its featured on as an advertisement? This is censorship.
And speaking of censorship, its extremely rampant now. On every single mainstream website there is some form of censorship happening. Not always direct deletion censorship mind you, but people in an office controlling the flow of information at the highest level. Changing the weights of millions of twitter messages at once so you can create artificial trends and topics. Faggots think they're "Making the world a better place" and have set up shitty codes of conduct and company values, but this always ends up being malicious and completely fucks with society. You think the people you see on the internet are sane? Do you think they're normal? Most people on the mainstream web could be considered to be mentally ill. Their natural ability to critically think and question has been stifled. Dozens of dopamine circuits have been formed, each linked to a different website and its functions. They put emotion before thought and don't give a second thought to telling someone to literally kill themselves (With true intent, not the insulting Kill Yourself you'd see on 4chan) or ruining their life with slander on social media. Any disgusting they/them "person" on twitter can send an army of equally mentally-ill and retarded followers after anything they want, and it always makes them feel as though they are the most important person in the world, hence the "blue checkmark" meme. These people have unwarranted self-importance. They have nothing to show for themselves in real life, yet in their minds they are gods gift to society.

Fixing this issue is destroying these companies, and shoving normalfags off of the internet and back into the physical world.
 
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