@Ho Mo for Women: You just know he's going to explain why they deserved it.
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Enter's rationale for why they "deserved it" is basically "They're adults who want to act like adults, and that's bad,". Enter hates adulthood and responsibility; that's why the schools in Growing Around aim to create a society of manchildren like him. Linda is the usual target for Growing Around's twisted aesops because she's one of the few adults who isn't happy with Enter's fantasy world. Linda just wants to live a normal life, so the world of Growing Around puts her through hell to "teach her a lesson". She gets dressed up to get her picture taken? Better chase her around the school spraying ink and throwing pies! She wants to relax and eat a normal Easter dinner with her family? Make her play with her food like a toddler! Enter has a very fucked up idea of what lessons cartoons should teach and how they teach them, far more than any of the real cartoon writers he rages at.
Reverend_Lovejoy
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Didn't he once say that GA's purpose is to relate to kids in a way that no other cartoon has done before? I think he said that kids don't enjoy picture day at school, so to make them enjoy it he makes them take the goofiest picture possible to make it fun for them.
@Reverend_Lovejoy: He pretty well fails at that, too. I can't imagine kids enjoying it or relating to it.
So Enter not only expects his show to relate to kids, but to do so in a way no show has ever done before? That's a ridiculously optimistic goal for any cartoon writer, let alone Enter, who can't relate to kids at all. Enter doesn't know what kids like; he only knows what he likes. He didn't like picture day as a kid, so he assumes all kids feel the same way. As far as I know, most kids kind of like picture day. Sure, it's not particularly exciting, but it's something different and it gets you out of class, so what's to complain about? A big part of the problem with Enter is that he thinks he knows what's best for kids, when he was barely a kid himself.
Except for the children and manchildren who blindly follow Enter and his garbage ideas.
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Honestly, I just find his show confusing, and if it wasn't for people writing about it on the kiwiforums, I would be even more confused about it than I am now. And as someone who is doing a creative writing course and has spent years building up the experience I need, I almost feel insulted whenever Enter writes these tips which clearly aren't very reliable.
Reverend_Lovejoy
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The main thing about Enter's writing is that a lot of his tips are essentially what he wants to see when people write. It's like when horror movie fans give out tips for writing comedy movies, and all of their tips involve making the jokes more scary. Or when fans of multiplayer criticise single-player campaigns or vice-versa because they're looking for different gaming experiences.
NostalgiaJazzAdmirer
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I think his tip on how not to write a torture porn is actually good, and some of these basic fundamentals are sadly overlooked in certain mainstream comedies.
@Ho Mo for Women: I didn't like picture day much, but then again, I actually enjoyed class, and I didn't hate it as much as he thinks I would have.
This is part of why I can't imagine kids liking this show.
This is part of why I can't imagine kids liking this show.
Should someone tell Enter that's not how most love triangles work? Hell, love triangles are usually the focal point of many great stories, in movies, television, and novels. It's a compelling and interpersonal conflict and it's often very relatable as well, and helps give humanity to the characters involved.
Ah, but come to think of it, there can never be a true "happy ending" in love triangles since someone will inevitably lose out, and I doubt MLP has taught him how to handle a protagonist not getting his way. Enter can't seem to handle depth in his fiction that's deeper than a kiddie pool.
I think MLP had a love triangle in it once.
Reverend_Lovejoy
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Personally, I like love triangles when they're done right. I think that in recent years Fanfic authors have come to the conclusion that love triangles are boring, so they created love squares and love pentagons. Then when they couldn't make those work they denounced love triangles.
The Star Wars love triangle was cool, I like how they ended it by revealing that two of the people involved were brother and sister.
The Star Wars love triangle was cool, I like how they ended it by revealing that two of the people involved were brother and sister.
Enter hates love triangles for the same reason he hates all romance: he's a manchild who hasn't moved past the "love is icky" stage of childhood.
Damn Fool, Entard... If you're looking for that damn pony show to teach you anything about good writing in general (no matter what some of you might think of the show around here deep down, unlike the rest of us...) - then you need to give up writing all together and find a profession you can get good at quicker - like flipping burgers, for example.
Not unless your love triangle is poorly written like the one in Legend of Korra.
Or maybe the crappy love triangle from Korra season 2 made him hate all romance due to its poor writing since Avatar is the most complex animated media he has seen.
You can say Korra>MLP all you want but it will never change my general opinion that Korra had wasted potential and could have had better writing.
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Reverend_Lovejoy
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Never watched Korra, I thought that the last airbender was a little overrated. Not bad, just not as good as everyone says it is.
Off the top of my head I think that Return Of The Joker is a pretty well-written animated show that he could learn from. I'm a little biased cause I grew up watching it and the series, which is why I liked the first Pokemon movie that everyone seems to hate.
Off the top of my head I think that Return Of The Joker is a pretty well-written animated show that he could learn from. I'm a little biased cause I grew up watching it and the series, which is why I liked the first Pokemon movie that everyone seems to hate.
I don't think Enter really learns from shows he watches, so much as he picks and chooses things he likes about them, and then treats them as rules that all writers should follow. Of course, he doesn't necessarily follow those rules himself, since Enter thinks that he's a creative genius, and that Growing Around is a masterpiece, so in his mind, he's above the rules he sets for other writers. In other words:
@Reverend_Lovejoy: That makes two of us; just replace "little" with "insanely" in my case.
You sure you don't mean Batman Beyond?
You sure you don't mean Batman Beyond?
Reverend_Lovejoy
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I was referring to the movie. The show's good too.
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