Mrenter's view on College -

[Jumpin Jenkins]

"Enter, you expect us to give you a show, and you haven't even been to college?"
"OMG YOU SUCK ASS U GIV GAYSEE ALEKZANDR A SHOW JUS BECUZ HE B PROFESHONL BUTT NOT ME EVN DO I M BETTER UCH U NOOB!"

 

[Anchuent Dictata]

"Enter, you expect us to give you a show, and you haven't even been to college?"
"OMG YOU SUCK ASS U GIV GAYSEE ALEKZANDR A SHOW JUS BECUZ HE B PROFESHONL BUTT NOT ME EVN DO I M BETTER UCH U NOOB!"

Pump the brakes a bit there Hoss, don't overdo it.

 

[JarlaxleBaenre]

More importantly, animation school is where you network for your career.

 

[Jewelsmakerguy]

More importantly, animation school is where you network for your career.

And they expect a lot out of you too. Doesn't matter if it's either a course in a community collage (though this is true with all courses) or a professional animation school. You don't know the foundations of art and animation, which Enter clearly doesn't, you can't get in.

Though at this point, Enter should probably weigh his options. An animation course, let alone any collage course, is out of his league at the moment. And since he doesn't want to learn from any professionals in the industry (gee, where have I heard that mentality before?) his safest bet right now is to just stop this dream and try to find a more sensible job. I hear McDonalds is hiring full-time employees.

 

[KFC]

And they expect a lot out of you too. Doesn't matter if it's either a course in a community collage (though this is true with all courses) or a professional animation school. You don't know the foundations of art and animation, which Enter clearly doesn't, you can't get in.

Though at this point, Enter should probably weigh his options. An animation course, let alone any collage course, is out of his league at the moment. And since he doesn't want to learn from any professionals in the industry (gee, where have I heard that mentality before?) his safest bet right now is to just stop this dream and try to find a more sensible job. I hear McDonalds is hiring full-time employees.

The fact that BenTheLooney tried harder than him (by taking art classes) makes me lose hope.

 

[Jewelsmakerguy]

The fact that BenTheLooney tried harder than him (by taking art classes) makes me lose hope.

You had hope?

 

[Piga Dgrifm]

So, what's Enter gonna do once his fanbase either moves on to the next thing or he does something that alienates them? That patreon/Youtube cash isn't gonna last much longer, and he's in trouble if he doesn't go to college or to a trade school.

 

[Jewelsmakerguy]

So, what's Enter gonna do once his fanbase either moves on to the next thing or he does something that alienates them? That patreon/Youtube cash isn't gonna last much longer, and he's in trouble if he doesn't go to college or to a trade school.

I'm pretty sure he just plans on riding it out with his parents. But I doubt even that will last.

 

[Steamboat_Bill]

@Jewelsmakerguy: If we accept that his parents are abusive, though, why would he want to stay with them?

 

[Jewelsmakerguy]

@Jewelsmakerguy: If we accept that his parents are abusive, though, why would he want to stay with them?

I get the feeling he's just playing it up for the feels. Because unless there's any proof beyond what he's said, I ain't buying it.

 

[Ferls]

@Jewelsmakerguy: If we accept that his parents are abusive, though, why would he want to stay with them?

Under the assumption it is true, it'd probably be financial.

 

[Jumpin Jenkins]

I get the feeling he's just playing it up for the feels. Because unless there's any proof beyond what he's said, I ain't buying it.

The truth is, too many people online do this. "Abusive Parents" more than likely meant that they didn't let him watch cartoons 24/7 or something.

 

[Optimus Prime]

The truth is, too many people online do this. "Abusive Parents" more than likely meant that they didn't let him watch cartoons 24/7 or something.

Oh, jeez, I can't believe I'm saying this but...

On another forum, there was a guy who considered it "abusive" that a mother kept tacking on minor chores for her youngest son to do (such backbreaking labor like setting the table and helping clean up the house) because he kept dodging the problem of him not appolgizing to his sister for doing something she explicitly asked him not to do multiple times in the past that involved using her personal computer for his own needs (mainly game downloads).

The guy who said that was abusive didn't know this was actually a fictional set-up for something completely different.

 

[NostalgiaJazzAdmirer]

For all we know, he COULD be exaggerating or making things up, sure, BUT...

For all we know, he could be telling the truth, or even downplaying the events, or leaving out certain details...

 

[Jewelsmakerguy]

For all we know, he COULD be exaggerating or making things up, sure, BUT...

For all we know, he could be telling the truth, or even downplaying the events, or leaving out certain details...

This is Mr Enter, of course he's telling the truth.

 

[Ferls]

Since this thread is the one really focused on his views on education, I figured I'd toss this here.

I'm trying to go through Enter's writing since original writing honestly interests me more than his videos. I just read his "Parable of the Two Artisans". Shockingly, the general moral seems to be about taking criticism and learning from others in your field. But despite that, I couldn't help but notice a bit of a slant against the "scholar".

Spoiler: Parable of the Two Artisans

Once upon a time there was a travelling merchant. He was an esteemed gentleman who enjoyed many quality things. He knew what he wanted and he knew what they were worth. Today he was searching for ornate ceramic pots, ones that were aesthetically pleasurable as well as structurally sound. He came to a village which, despite its small size, held two artisans. He ordered a pot from each of them. Whoever had come closer to his vision would obtain his permanent service. He would judge their pots in three days.

The two artisans had different ways of making their craft. The first artisan had studied for many years, honing his craft. Each of his pots were sturdy and proved their function, yet they weren't much to look at. The second artisan came about his own techniques. He chanced designs and structures that the first artisan dared to try. Some of his pots crumbled under their own weight, but others became the envy of the town. The two artisans didn't like each other, or each other's work. The scholarly artisan claimed that his competitor's work would turn to dust with the slightest breeze and scoffed at his efforts. However, he found himself baffled when the townspeople frequently went to his competitor before him.

The scholarly artisan frequently gave advice on how his competitor could improve his craft, but the simple artisan did not like his competitor. Whenever he did what the scholarly artisan said, his work became sterile and no one spared it a second glance. He had far fewer duds, but found that the townspeople would always go to the scholarly artisan's shop before his when he followed the scholarly artisan's advice. He came to believe that the scholarly artisan was purposely sabotaging him.

Each of them used their own methods to construct a pot that would catch the merchant's eye. The scholarly merchant consulted all of his books to find a design that could take even the harshest of battering and still be in tact. The simple artisan created as many shapes that would take the forms of turtles, elephants, and dragons. Each one was more exotic than the last, but by morning the elephant urn had chipped at the base. It wasn't long before the three days had ended and the merchant returned to town. The scholarly artisan had crafted a plain gray pot that could contain boiling oil, while the simple artisan had crafted a pot in the shape of a dragon, which couldn't last the fall from a table to the floor.

The merchant learned of the dragon's weakness the moment that he held it. It broke into seven pieces from a rough touch alone. The merchant was about to leave, but before he did the scholarly artisan stopped him. The scholarly artisan wanted to know why the merchant ignored his pot. The merchant said that he didn't even notice the scholarly artisan's pot, and in that case he had already failed. Pitying the scholarly artisan, the merchant examined his pot and deemed it less valuable than the simple artisan's work. The merchant took two pots out of his wagon. Both of them were identical to the scholarly artisan's pot, and both artisans were told that they needed to learn from them.

tl;dr: two extremely different artists are put to the test. one takes a functional approach, the other takes an aesthetic approach, both get shat on in the end for making shitty stuff.
Even though it has a more general moral to the story, the "scholarly" artisan is definitely treated as the inherently bad one. In the end, it's explicitly stated that his carefully made piece is worse.
I dunno, I just feel like this is more of Enter's hatred of education slipping through. Of all things he could call that artist, he calls him the "scholar". Not the "pragmatist" or "utilitarian" or something actually relevant, and he spends more time focusing on that one's flaws than the other.

I dunno. I just couldn't read it without seeing Enter using yet another thing as a soapbox for his tirade on the world.

 

[Cgame]

Since this thread is the one really focused on his views on education, I figured I'd toss this here.

I'm trying to go through Enter's writing since original writing honestly interests me more than his videos. I just read his "Parable of the Two Artisans". Shockingly, the general moral seems to be about taking criticism and learning from others in your field. But despite that, I couldn't help but notice a bit of a slant against the "scholar".

Spoiler: Parable of the Two Artisans

Once upon a time there was a travelling merchant. He was an esteemed gentleman who enjoyed many quality things. He knew what he wanted and he knew what they were worth. Today he was searching for ornate ceramic pots, ones that were aesthetically pleasurable as well as structurally sound. He came to a village which, despite its small size, held two artisans. He ordered a pot from each of them. Whoever had come closer to his vision would obtain his permanent service. He would judge their pots in three days.

The two artisans had different ways of making their craft. The first artisan had studied for many years, honing his craft. Each of his pots were sturdy and proved their function, yet they weren't much to look at. The second artisan came about his own techniques. He chanced designs and structures that the first artisan dared to try. Some of his pots crumbled under their own weight, but others became the envy of the town. The two artisans didn't like each other, or each other's work. The scholarly artisan claimed that his competitor's work would turn to dust with the slightest breeze and scoffed at his efforts. However, he found himself baffled when the townspeople frequently went to his competitor before him.

The scholarly artisan frequently gave advice on how his competitor could improve his craft, but the simple artisan did not like his competitor. Whenever he did what the scholarly artisan said, his work became sterile and no one spared it a second glance. He had far fewer duds, but found that the townspeople would always go to the scholarly artisan's shop before his when he followed the scholarly artisan's advice. He came to believe that the scholarly artisan was purposely sabotaging him.

Each of them used their own methods to construct a pot that would catch the merchant's eye. The scholarly merchant consulted all of his books to find a design that could take even the harshest of battering and still be in tact. The simple artisan created as many shapes that would take the forms of turtles, elephants, and dragons. Each one was more exotic than the last, but by morning the elephant urn had chipped at the base. It wasn't long before the three days had ended and the merchant returned to town. The scholarly artisan had crafted a plain gray pot that could contain boiling oil, while the simple artisan had crafted a pot in the shape of a dragon, which couldn't last the fall from a table to the floor.

The merchant learned of the dragon's weakness the moment that he held it. It broke into seven pieces from a rough touch alone. The merchant was about to leave, but before he did the scholarly artisan stopped him. The scholarly artisan wanted to know why the merchant ignored his pot. The merchant said that he didn't even notice the scholarly artisan's pot, and in that case he had already failed. Pitying the scholarly artisan, the merchant examined his pot and deemed it less valuable than the simple artisan's work. The merchant took two pots out of his wagon. Both of them were identical to the scholarly artisan's pot, and both artisans were told that they needed to learn from them.

tl;dr: two extremely different artists are put to the test. one takes a functional approach, the other takes an aesthetic approach, both get shat on in the end for making shitty stuff.
Even though it has a more general moral to the story, the "scholarly" artisan is definitely treated as the inherently bad one. In the end, it's explicitly stated that his carefully made piece is worse.
I dunno, I just feel like this is more of Enter's hatred of education slipping through. Of all things he could call that artist, he calls him the "scholar". Not the "pragmatist" or "utilitarian" or something actually relevant, and he spends more time focusing on that one's flaws than the other.

I dunno. I just couldn't read it without seeing Enter using yet another thing as a soapbox for his tirade on the world.

I did post a thread about his journals awhile ago and made a review about this one, but it probably makes more sense to post this one here. MrEnter almost seems like he is looking down upon people who get an education.

Spoiler: Repost from Old Thread

http://mrenter.deviantart.com/art/The-Parable-of-the-Two-Artisans-514575552

Summary: Both style and substance are important, but style is more important. No, you didn't read that backwards.

Review: There is a large plot hole despite how short the parable is. The merchant explicitly requested to both craftsmen that he wanted to see a pot from each of them, yet when it came time for the merchant to judge, the merchant didn't even bother to look at the scholarly craftsman's pot until the scholarly craftsman told him to. The moral of the parable is flawed, MrEnter seems to prefer novelty over function, despite the fact that having a functional pot would be far more practical than having one that looks nice, but breaks easily. A boring pot is still a functional pot while a nice looking but nonfunctional pot is worthless in terms of practicality. I should note that the merchant explicitly states that the functional pot was worth less than the novel but nonfunctional pot.

 

[Sanae Kochiya]

If anything, the Parable of the Two Artisans shows how shallow and petty Enter is (as if we didn't have enough evidence) because it seems to favor, as some people mentioned, novelty over utility.

Yeah, y'know, the plain old hiking backpack looks a lot less stylish than the MLP one there, but in the unlikely case of a zombie apocalypse, I'm pretty sure the former is less likely to break under stress and get me eaten.

I'm not even sure where Enter got this kind of ideology. Unless he was spoiled as a child, I can't think of any upbringing that glorifies style over substance.

 

[Optimus Prime]

Yeah, y'know, the plain old hiking backpack looks a lot less stylish than the MLP one there, but in the unlikely case of a zombie apocalypse, I'm pretty sure the former is less likely to break under stress and get me eaten.

Heh, if I had to choose, I'd go for the hiking backpack under any situation. I've been using a SwissGear hiking backpack since sophmore year of High School, I'm in my senior year of college now (so about 6 years or so) and only now is it starting to show signs of needing to be replaced as the bottom is almost worn through - and I used this same backpack for high-adventure Boy Scout trips as well as schoolbooks and more mundane needs. Durability, utility (so many pockets, so many uses, I'm often looking like the smartest person alive during a rainstorm as guess who is the only one in class who has an umbrella ready at all times), comfort from the padding all over the straps, and of course they tend to look more badass anyway.

I'm not even sure where Enter got this kind of ideology. Unless he was spoiled as a child, I can't think of any upbringing that glorifies style over substance.

He has to have been spoiled from the way he acts in regard to pretty much everything he doesn't like being something he has to acknowledge existing in his purview of reality.

 

[AveraDiane]

This journal entry reeks of obvious pretention. And frankly, community college -would- be the best option for him because they have lower costs and, from what I have heard from friends who went to community college, it does push you to learn just like any university (well, there are also people who think community college is 13th grade, but I digress).

And speaking of his views of school, I found this nugget of information from his tumblr.

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