MSG in Chinese food isn't unhealthy -- you're just racist, activists say -

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https://edition.cnn.com/2020/01/18/asia/chinese-restaurant-syndrome-msg-intl-hnk-scli/index.html (https://archive.vn/fZYNM)

If you've heard of the term "MSG," you might have also heard of its common -- but inaccurate -- connotations.

For years, monosodium glutamate, a food additive known as MSG, has been branded as an unhealthy processed ingredient mainly found in Chinese food, despite a lack of supporting scientific evidence.

This perception, which activists argue is outdated and racist, is so widespread that the Merriam-Webster dictionary has an entry for the term "Chinese restaurant syndrome" -- a type of condition that allegedly affects people eating "Chinese food heavily seasoned with monosodium glutamate," with symptoms like dizziness and palpitations.
Now, activists have launched a campaign called "Redefine CRS." Headed by Japanese food and seasoning company Ajinomoto, the online campaign urges Merriam-Webster to change its entry to reflect the scientific consensus on MSG -- and the impact of misinformation on the American public's perception of Asian cuisine.

"To this day, the myth around MSG is ingrained in America's consciousness, with Asian food and culture still receiving unfair blame," said the company in its campaign website. "Chinese Restaurant Syndrome isn't just scientifically false — it's xenophobic."
In a video released by Ajinomoto, several Asian American figures, restaurateurs, and medical professionals spoke out against the misconceptions surrounding MSG and Chinese food.
"Calling it Chinese restaurant syndrome is really ignorant," said restaurateur Eddie Huang, whose memoir was adapted into the hit sitcom "Fresh Off the Boat." In the video, he pointed out that MSG is not only delicious -- but found in practically all processed foods, from ranch dressing to Doritos.

The campaign proposed a new definition for "Chinese restaurant syndrome" in the Merriam-Webster -- "an outdated term that falsely blamed Chinese food containing MSG, or monosodium glutamate, for a group of symptoms."
In response, Merriam-Webster tweeted on Wednesday that it would be "reviewing the term and revising accordingly."
"We're constantly in the process of updating as usage and attitudes evolve, so we're grateful when readers can point us toward a definition that needs attention," said the company.

What MSG is -- and isn't
First off: what is MSG?
Chances are, you've eaten it. It's a common amino acid naturally found in foods like tomatoes and cheese, which people then figured out how to extract and ferment -- a process similar to how we make yogurt and wine.
This fermented MSG is now used to flavor lots of different foods like stews or chicken stock. It's so widely used because it taps into our fifth basic taste: umami (pronounced oo-maa-mee). Umami is less well known than the other tastes like saltiness or sweetness, but it's everywhere -- it's the complex, savory taste you find in mushrooms or Parmesan cheese.

People have consumed MSG throughout history, according to the US Food and Drug Administration (FDA) -- but the debate over its health effects began in 1968, when a man wrote a letter to the New England Journal of Medicine, complaining of numbness after eating at Chinese restaurants.
The idea that Chinese food was dangerous spread quickly, and was lent legitimacy by some medical professionals at the time. A 1969 scientific paper identified MSG as "the cause of the Chinese restaurant syndrome," and warned that it caused "burning sensations, facial pressure, and chest pain."

That's not to say it was scientifically proven. A 1986 paper in the journal Food and Chemical Toxicology argued that a decade of research had "failed to reveal any objective sign" that MSG was dangerous, and that the very idea of "Chinese restaurant syndrome" was "questionable."
The FDA even set up an independent inquiry into MSG in the 1990s -- which ultimately concluded that MSG is safe.

Still, it was too late to contain public fear and anxiety. MSG had effectively been vilified in the American imagination, and was shunned for decades afterward. Even now, a quick Google search for MSG turns up countless pages that ask: is MSG harmful?
Many regulatory bodies and scientific groups have answered this definitively: No. The addition of MSG in foods is "generally recognized as safe," says the FDA site.

A joint study by the World Health Organization and the United Nations Food and Agriculture Organization "failed to confirm an involvement of MSG in 'Chinese Restaurant Syndrome'," and noted that the syndrome itself was based on "anecdotal" evidence rather than any scientific fact.
Besides, many said, if MSG was so dangerous, masses of people would have fallen sick in countries that cook with the additive, like China and Japan -- something that simply hasn't happened.

The fight for Asian food in America
As the Ajinomoto campaign points out, the public scare over MSG unfairly placed the blame on Chinese food -- and is partly why many in the United States still think of Chinese food as processed, unclean, or unhealthy.
This perception -- and the growing movement to break down this stereotype -- made national headlines in the spring of 2019, when a white woman opened a Chinese restaurant called Lucky Lee's in New York. The restaurant would serve "clean" Chinese food, she wrote in a now-deleted Instagram post -- food that wasn't "too oily," and that wouldn't make people feel "bloated and icky" afterward.

Almost immediately, the internet was in uproar. Members of the Asian and Asian American community accused the owner of not just appropriating another culture's cuisine, but doing it with an offensive rather than appreciative approach.
The owner responded shortly after the backlash, acknowledging in an Instagram post that Chinese food had "health benefits" and promising to "always listen and reflect accordingly." The restaurant closed in December 2019 -- just eight months after opening.
She apologized more explicitly in an interview with The New York Times -- but still, critics argued that her original post had reinforced negative and false stereotypes around Chinese food instead of exploring what it actually is.

The controversy sparked a broader discussion on the racially-driven lines drawn around which foods are "clean" and "sophisticated." Why, for instance, is Italian or French cuisine -- both foreign to the US -- seen as high-class fine dining, while Chinese or Thai food is still often regarded as quick, cheap, and low quality?

Some also pointed out that "ethnic" foods -- a controversy in itself, because what is "ethnic" anyway? -- hold stories that have been erased or unacknowledged completely. For many, "Americanized" Chinese food was born from desperation and adapted for American tastes -- a way for immigrant families to survive in a society that demanded assimilation. To have that food, and its history of immigrant struggle, dismissed as "icky" or "oily" felt like a slap in the face for many in the Asian American community.

For years, Chinese restaurants in the US often had signs inside that announced "No MSG used," in an attempt to distance themselves from the stigma. Now, some are reclaiming and openly embracing the additive; Chinese restaurant chain Mission Chinese Food has salt shakers filled with MSG, and MSG margaritas with MSG crystals in the ice cubes.
Then there's Ajinomoto, one of the biggest voices in the MSG market and the leader of the Redefine CRS campaign. You can find Ajinomoto's MSG seasoning packets and spice mixes in many American supermarkets, and it has been working for years to raise awareness about both the safety of consuming MSG and the ways it can be used to add flavor to dishes.

Amid all the hullabaloo, restaurateurs like celebrity chef David Chang, who produced and starred in the Netflix series "Ugly Delicious," and Anthony Bourdain, the late host of CNN's award-winning series "Parts Unknown," have worked to change public perception.
The fears surrounding MSG were just a "psychosomatic myth," Chang said in a tweet. In another post, he shared how he uses MSG in his daily life, adding it as seasoning to snacks like popcorn.
Bourdain, who traveled the world and showcased an extraordinary diversity of cultures and cuisines, was more explicit. "I think (MSG) is good stuff," he said in a 2016 episode of "Parts Unknown" filmed in China. "I don't react to it -- nobody does. It's a lie."

"You know what causes Chinese restaurant syndrome?" he added as he walked through the streets of Sichuan. "Racism."
 

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We've known it's bullshit for a long time, though. One of the most common sources in MSG in the US is McDonald's. As some of you may well know, they used to fry McDonald's fries in beef tallow, which added a savory kick to the starchy potatoes, but in the 80s and early 90s due to health concerns, they switched out the beef tallow for normal frying oil. Not wanting to disappoint the fans of their delicious fries who enjoy that savory kick, they started adding in copious amounts of MSG to their fry oil, which is the cheapest and most effective way to add umami flavor to something.

So anyone that bitches about MSG without bringing up McDonald's needs to shut their fucking mouth.
 

glossdrop

You always try so hard
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Well there's pretty much zero solid evidence that MSG leads to any direct health risks, as confirmed by multiple different independent health organizations. The anti-MSG people are almost always also uneducated GMO fearmongerers.

But come on, the "muh ethnic fuuds" argument is literally the dumbest one you could use here.
 

Agent Abe Caprine

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Most Chinese food in the US is at buffets. Places where overeating is encouraged. These buffets usually serve the Americanized version. Of course you'll feel numb after gorging yourself into a diabetic coma.

The food at Grand China Buffet One is as American as buffalo wings. Something having more flavor than British food doesn't make it foreign.

That being said, General Tso's sounds great right now.
 

Spastic Colon

I hate 2020
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We've known it's bullshit for a long time, though. One of the most common sources in MSG in the US is McDonald's. As some of you may well know, they used to fry McDonald's fries in beef tallow, which added a savory kick to the starchy potatoes, but in the 80s and early 90s due to health concerns, they switched out the beef tallow for normal frying oil. Not wanting to disappoint the fans of their delicious fries who enjoy that savory kick, they started adding in copious amounts of MSG to their fry oil, which is the cheapest and most effective way to add umami flavor to something.

So anyone that bitches about MSG without bringing up McDonald's needs to shut their fucking mouth.
They might add a ton of MSG (don't know about that), but when they replaced beef tallow with vegetable oil, they added beef flavoring to their fries. I know this because I was technically part of a class action lawsuit against them because I had written an email to McD's to complain about the beef seasoning. I'm a vegetarian and when they switched to vegetable oil, I thought I could eat their fries until I discovered (when looking at their ingredients because of my kid's food allergy) that the fries contained beef. McD's settled the lawsuit and donated to an animal charity.
 

Judge Holden

NO!!! MASSA NO!!!
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Seems like a lot of us are in agreement. MSG is good in its own right as a savoumami enhancer and the backlash against it is overblown, but latching "MUH RAYSISM" to this point is just whiny autism, and innacurate to boot since its mostly due to a negative stigma over any "chemicals and additives" in food rather than hating chinks.
 

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They might add a ton of MSG (don't know about that), but when they replaced beef tallow with vegetable oil, they added beef flavoring to their fries. I know this because I was technically part of a class action lawsuit against them because I had written an email to McD's to complain about the beef seasoning. I'm a vegetarian and when they switched to vegetable oil, I thought I could eat their fries until I discovered (when looking at their ingredients because of my kid's food allergy) that the fries contained beef. McD's settled the lawsuit and donated to an animal charity.
"Natural beef flavor" specifically is some of the amino acids found in beef mixed with MSG.
 

Pinot Pierrot

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Agree, except I get mine from local Chinese grocery shops where it is rebranded as “mushroom seasoning”. A spoon or two easily turns any vegetable or soup into something palateable.

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