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It's a good start but what are they doing to celebrate Pride Month?

edit oh that's cool they're participating in an auction in the Diversity & Inclusion Sports Consortium with an organization dedicated to ensuring equality, respect and safety for all athletes, without regard to sexual orientation and/or gender identity.

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Let's update this by "I am woke, I am broke, I am Nascar".
 

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lol imagine being patriotic for a country that barely existed and died more than 100 years ago. some people just can not take the L.
Better than those ingrates in San Francisco who are patriotic about taking it up the ass and grooming kids. Why else would they wave around those poop smear rainbow flags? At the Confederate ones look cool.
 

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When it comes to removing Confederate flags, the process could be compared to Germany after World War II where any reference to Nazis has been scrubbed. This could be seen as a way to de-Dixiefy the South.
I think it's closer to what's going on with Spain and Catalonia. Yet another long-standing effort to contain regionalism with spiteful and petty rules.
 

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I keep telling you guys the flags were already banned and for why the races have no fans right now is due to the chink flu. They will have some fans possibly as early as this weekend in Homestead. The real reason nascar declined is Dale Earnhardt dying which took a good chunk of the fan base away from the sport. They followed his son Dale Jr but he wasn’t as good as his father. The retirements of the big stars from the start of the century has not helped with possibly the last big star in Jimmie Johnson retiring at the end of the season. For the new guys in nascar, Chase Elliott’s rise is due to him being the son of Bill Elliott and the other big stars are just huge assholes to a lot of the fan base. Kyle Busch and his association with Toyota has not helped matters as Toyota pours a ton of money in the sport which makes GM and Ford also rans. Bubba Wallace is the black driver in nascar and right now he is actually competitive as before this season he was in absolute shit rides. Wait for him to win and the media will go nuts about it even though a black guy won in the early 60s with much more racism.
 

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This confederate flag ban ain't gonna change shit about NASCAR, most people aren't gonna care, and they already have much bigger issues regardless so this isn't gonna be some killing blow. It's dumb a meaningless move certainly, but I don't really see why it's worth getting mad and spergy over.
 

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The last time NASCAR was good Matt Kenneth won and that just led to NASCAR doing some bullshit playoff system. Brian became CEO and they switched from Winston to Nextel all in that same fucking year too.


I keep telling you guys the flags were already banned and for why the races have no fans right now is due to the chink flu. They will have some fans possibly as early as this weekend in Homestead. The real reason nascar declined is Dale Earnhardt dying which took a good chunk of the fan base away from the sport. They followed his son Dale Jr but he wasn’t as good as his father. The retirements of the big stars from the start of the century has not helped with possibly the last big star in Jimmie Johnson retiring at the end of the season. For the new guys in nascar, Chase Elliott’s rise is due to him being the son of Bill Elliott and the other big stars are just huge assholes to a lot of the fan base. Kyle Busch and his association with Toyota has not helped matters as Toyota pours a ton of money in the sport which makes GM and Ford also rans. Bubba Wallace is the black driver in nascar and right now he is actually competitive as before this season he was in absolute shit rides. Wait for him to win and the media will go nuts about it even though a black guy won in the early 60s with much more racism.

the fact that the france family let driving turn into a nepotistic shitfest doesn't help. Tony Stewart (and others) have said the constant flags fuck with the driving enough to change the outcome of races. live sports in general are suffering, and have been for the last decade and a half when research showed its better to charge up the ass so few people come than to let it be something you would take the kids and ex-cons to. the same thing happened with amusement parks.

i't doesn't help that since big screen high definition tvs have made it so its better to watch everything at home, watching sports on a 13 inch CRT was bullshit.
 

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https://twitter.com/bobpockrass/status/1270728023445311495 (https://archive.vn/3GFIf)
 

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The last time NASCAR was good Matt Kenneth won and that just led to NASCAR doing some bullshit playoff system. Brian became CEO and they switched from Winston to Nextel all in that same fucking year too.




the fact that the france family let driving turn into a nepotistic shitfest doesn't help. Tony Stewart (and others) have said the constant flags fuck with the driving enough to change the outcome of races. live sports in general are suffering, and have been for the last decade and a half when research showed its better to charge up the ass so few people come than to let it be something you would take the kids and ex-cons to. the same thing happened with amusement parks.

i't doesn't help that since big screen high definition tvs have made it so its better to watch everything at home, watching sports on a 13 inch CRT was bullshit.
I think the banning of tobacco companies from auto racing has hurt the sport worldwide. In 1999 more then half the teams in Formula 1 were sponsored by tobacco companies which kept the teams profitable. Today only two teams have some sort of tobacco advertising and it’s so subtle you wouldn’t know the companies are still in the sport. In North America Indy car nascar and nhra the tobacco companies would send free tickets to people to go to the races. Winston as a brand collapsed after they pulled out of nascar which led to them being sold to imperial tobacco recently even though 30 years ago it was RJ Reynolds premier brand. That brought loyalty to the sport you can’t replicate today.

Tl;dr tobacco companies needed to spend their marketing budgets after they were banned from tv and auto racing was the perfect match. That’s why the highs of auto racing was due to the influence of big tobacco and it’s been falling since being banned.
 

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Tl;dr tobacco companies needed to spend their marketing budgets after they were banned from tv and auto racing was the perfect match. That’s why the highs of auto racing was due to the influence of big tobacco and it’s been falling since being banned.

Football (Soccer) is about to experience the same sort of thing (again) and I am curious how the smaller leagues will maintain status going forward.

Many of the associated federations within the sport wish to outright ban gambling companies from being able to advertise openly. This would forbid them from being able to purchase shirt or sleeve sponsor space, LED banner space, press conference space or splash screens during breaks between half's. Some of the firms have already accepted their fate and attempted to win over some good faith. Paddy Power for example, said they wish to "preserve the legacy of team kits" and removed their logo from shirts, leaving them blank.

Of course, this isn't the first time these federations tried to be "morally righteous" as we had various fast food brands yeeted from shirts too. Naturally brands like McDonald's and Coke found loop-holes.
 

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Football (Soccer) is about to experience the same sort of thing (again) and I am curious how the smaller leagues will maintain status going forward.

Many of the associated federations within the sport wish to outright ban gambling companies from being able to advertise openly. This would forbid them from being able to purchase shirt or sleeve sponsor space, LED banner space, press conference space or splash screens during breaks between half's. Some of the firms have already accepted their fate and attempted to win over some good faith. Paddy Power for example, said they wish to "preserve the legacy of team kits" and removed their logo from shirts, leaving them blank.

Of course, this isn't the first time these federations tried to be "morally righteous" as we had various fast food brands yeeted from shirts too. Naturally brands like McDonald's and Coke found loop-holes.
Much like other sponsor bans, it will just result in a bigger gap amongst big teams and little teams unless they end up in an RB Leipzig scenario where some huge company spends their way into success by injecting a fuckload of money to a smaller team.
 

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Much like other sponsor bans, it will just result in a bigger gap amongst big teams and little teams unless they end up in an RB Leipzig scenario where some huge company spends their way into success by injecting a fuckload of money to a smaller team.

They almost brought Leeds United at one point. Imagine Red Bull Leeds? Ha
 

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The environment can be as inclusive and welcoming as can be, the ones arguing and bitching over not feeling welcome and included are the ones that would never be caught dead at a Nascar race in the first place, cause to them, it is the sport of lowly peasants and hicks.

You can't be inclusive towards these people, not for a lack of trying, but rather cause these people are willing to put anything forward as a sign that they are not welcome and feel unsafe - and if anything fails, they'll bitch about the presence of too many white folks, even if they are as white as a bedsheet themselves.
Trying to appease these people only means you reach out to them and they spit in your face, cause it isn't enough and never will be enough.
 

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The environment can be as inclusive and welcoming as can be, the ones arguing and bitching over not feeling welcome and included are the ones that would never be caught dead at a Nascar race in the first place, cause to them, it is the sport of lowly peasants and hicks.

You can't be inclusive towards these people, not for a lack of trying, but rather cause these people are willing to put anything forward as a sign that they are not welcome and feel unsafe - and if anything fails, they'll bitch about the presence of too many white folks, even if they are as white as a bedsheet themselves.
Trying to appease these people only means you reach out to them and they spit in your face, cause it isn't enough and never will be enough.
The ban is 110 percent driven first and foremost by sponsors. They don't want other markets to be pissed off because social media decides sponsoring NASCAR is a bad thing so they most certainly were the ones to pressure NASCAR into this shit. They don't care about the sport itself beyond the eyeballage it gets.

The average motherfucker already thinks NASCAR is just lame redneck shit so they're not gonna ever watch a race anyways.
 

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