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Will you vote for him?

  • Yes, I want to rape my little sister

    Votes: 76 13.3%
  • No, I want to remain a virgin.

    Votes: 494 86.7%

  • Total voters
    570

Coccxys

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The first part, yeah screw him. He wants to go pro-se then let him hang himself. Guaranteed the disagreement with the attorney is try and make a deal vs fight it out with the winning argument that paedophilia is entirely moral and she was asking for it.

The next one, he almost makes a good point right up until he goes off with standard conspiracy theory ramblings that demolish his claims of competence.

I'm going to bet that by the end of it he has at least a couple of contempt of court charges added on to all the other stuff. He doesn't have enough self control (and is dunning krugering hard) not to get himself told to fuck off by a fed up judge when he objects to his own defence for the 50th time that day.
 
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The first part, yeah screw him. He wants to go pro-se then let him hang himself. Guaranteed the disagreement with the attorney is try and make a deal vs fight it out with the winning argument that paedophilia is entirely moral and she was asking for it.
He probably realizes he's so absolutely fucked he's going to get a max sentence anyway, so why not go pro se and at least get a chance to fuck up the whole trial? His crimes are repulsive and disgusting and so is he. He's really looking at Nick Bate levels of sentencing. He's not getting out alive.
 

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He probably realizes he's so absolutely fucked he's going to get a max sentence anyway, so why not go pro se and at least get a chance to fuck up the whole trial? His crimes are repulsive and disgusting and so is he. He's really looking at Nick Bate levels of sentencing. He's not getting out alive.
Fine by me. Either way, old age or the ol' shank-in-the-back, he comes out in a bodybag.
 

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Will someone create a thread on Nathan Larson's pedophile buddy Abd Lomax (real name Dennis George Lomax) who lives at 40 Fort ST FI 1 Northampton, MA? He is still defending Larson:

Lomax has attracted widespread criticism across the internet concerning his offensive views on pedophilia, child pornography and his defense of pedophile Nathan Larson.[70] He has disturbingly claimed hebephilia (sexual preference for pubescent children typically aged 11-14) is "more or less normal".[71] In a blog post written in 2020 on his website titled "Association with Bad Actors", Lomax defends a number of pedophiles and paedophile-apologists including Larson and Michael Coombs.[72] Lomax denies that Larson is a pedophile (despite Larson has previously describing himself as a pedophile), writing "he [Larson] is not a pedophile" and "his sexual preferences are normal, not specially-young women." Not long after Lomax wrote this bizarre and inaccurate blog post, Larson was arrested for child abduction (his victim was a 12 year old girl), soliciting child pornography from a minor, and meeting a child for the intention of sex; he also administrated a pedophile forum named Rapey that was already under investigation for child pornography.[73][74][75] Since the arrest, Lomax has continued to defend Larson,[76][77] for example arguing he could be innocent since he did not know the age of the girl he abducted and asserting he didn't deceive her (blatantly false since he groomed her online knowing she was vulnerable because of her young age) and doubting whether he kidnapped the girl.
 
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Even the prosecution are questioning his sanity.

Fresno federal judge orders mental evaluation for pedophile accused of kidnapping child

A federal judge has ordered kidnapping suspect and admitted pedophile Nathan Larson to be evaluated for mental competency.

The 40-year-old Virginia man faces several felony charges in connection with the kidnapping of a 12-year-old Fresno girl he allegedly intended to sexually assault and impregnate.

He found her on a rape/kidnap fetish website he operated online from his home in Virginia, court records show.


Federal prosecutors said in court documents that they want a mental illness review based on an “extended series of events that have continued to unfold, from the 1990s through this action’s last court appearance in April 2021.”

“The government submits that there is reasonable cause to believe that the defendant may presently be suffering from a mental disease or defect rendering him mentally incompetent to the extent that he is unable to understand the nature and consequences of the proceedings against him or to assist properly in his defense,” according to the government’s motion.

On Friday, Magistrate Judge Dale A. Drozd approved the U.S. Attorney’s motion.

Larson’s attorney Peter M. Jones agreed to the evaluation, saying he intends to pursue a defense of not guilty by reason of insanity. Jones said the Federal Bureau of Prisons will select a location for the examination.

Larson, previously described by Fresno County Sheriff Margaret Mims as a “white supremacist and a well-known advocate for pedophilia,” was arrested at Denver International Airport on Dec. 14 in what police believe was a scheme to take the girl with him to Catlett, Virginia, where he lives.

According to court documents, Larson has a long history of mental illness. When he was in the 11th grade he was charged in juvenile court with assault, battery and malicious wounding of a police officer.



The incident was sparked by Larson taking out his revenge on a classmate by saving up his urine and spraying it on the other boy.

At 19, he began having thoughts of suicide and was placed in a hospital in Virginia on a 72-hour hold.

In 2008, Larson was convicted in Colorado for threatening to assassinate President George W. Bush.

He served 16 months in custody. Prior to his sentencing, the district court in Colorado ordered Larson to undergo two separate psychiatric and/or psychological examinations.

“In one instance, the examiner reported that defendant’s mother advised that he had experienced suicidal thoughts since he was a teenager, and likewise told her when he was a teenager that he would “not feel a thing” if he killed her with an axe,” according to court documents.

After his release from prison, Larson wrote a letter to his parole agent, advising him he was not going to follow the conditions of his release, including staying away from drugs and firearms.

“If you happen to hear the distinctive sound of the gunfire of a Solothurn S-18/100 20mm Anti-Tank Cannon emanating from my backyard, as cardboard cutouts of statist federal politicians, federal judges, federal prosecutors and federal agents become riddled with large, ragged bullet holes, please know that there is nothing amiss; it is just me engaged in target practice...” according to court documents.

In 2018, Larson ran for Congress in Virginia’s 10th Congressional District but later withdrew. In a Huffington Post article about his candidacy, he was reported to have “endorsed child rape, father-daughter marriage, killing women and raping virgins.”

Prosecutors in his current case describe Larson’s behavior as peculiar during his court appearances. Court records show Larson objected to appearing via Zoom, and wearing a mask in court.

He wrote a letter to the magistrate judge on April 23 where he characterized the kidnapping and child exploitation charges against him as “a test case and/or case involving civil disobedience.”

He also described himself as being among “idealists (who are) willing to make personal sacrifices for what they know is right.”

In another letter, dated April 28, 2021 letter to the magistrate judge, he described his actions as “fearless” and a product not of “unsound mind” but rather a “high-minded philosophy superior to what is currently embraced by the establishment and reflected in its laws.”

Larson is due back in court on July 23.

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Is the urine incident new information too, I don't recall reading it previously.
 

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Even the prosecution are questioning his sanity.

Fresno federal judge orders mental evaluation for pedophile accused of kidnapping child



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Is the urine incident new information too, I don't recall reading it previously.
Part of me thinks that he is feigning insanity so that he can get outta jail time (or at least lessen his potential sentencing).

But then again he DID create a extreme rape fetish site, on the clearnet, where we all knew who he was and that he thought running in politics was a good idea so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯.
 

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Even the prosecution are questioning his sanity.

Fresno federal judge orders mental evaluation for pedophile accused of kidnapping child



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Is the urine incident new information too, I don't recall reading it previously.
I don't think he's going to be found too insane to stand trial, even if he really hams it up. He quite simply isn't. That's even crazier than you have to be to be found not guilty by reason of insanity, and imo he isn't even that. He knew what he was doing was wrong, took extensive measures to try to ensure that he wouldn't get caught, and that by itself shows he was rational enough not to be legally insane.

I think at most they'll take him to a loony bin and drug him up for a couple months before bringing him back to court.
 

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Anybody got information on this conference?

I'm hoping he gets prison for life.

This is gonna be a giant post. I started writing this, realized it would be massive, and then forgot to update the top, so just bear with me.

From what we have so far, it's mostly based on the prosecution's side rather than Nathan's. I did get a couple of transcripts (see below).
  • The prosecution were supposed to meet with Nathan's attorney for a status conference on September 3rd, but filed a continuance to hold the meeting on September 17th instead. The reason is apparently that they still need more time to see if Nathan is batshit insane (remember, they filed a motion for examining his mental competency).
  • The meeting was later postponed to October 15th after the prosecution filed another continuance (they're waiting for his mental health report to get back to them).
Case 1:21-cr-00022-NONE-SKO Document 50 Filed 09/01/21 Page 1 of 6


1 PHILLIP A. TALBERT
Acting United States Attorney
2 BRIAN W. ENOS
Assistant United States Attorney
3 2500 Tulare Street, Suite 4401
Fresno, Ca 93721
4 Telephone: (559) 497-4000
Facsimile: (559) 497-4099
5

6 Attorneys for Plaintiff
United States of America
7

8 UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT
9 EASTERN DISTRICT OF CALIFORNIA
10

11 UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, Case No: 1:21-cr-00022 NONE/SKO
12 Plaintiff, STIPULATION TO CONTINUE SEPTEMBER 3,
2021 STATUS CONFERENCE TO SEPTEMBER
13 17, 2021; ORDER
14 v.
15

16 NATHAN DANIEL LARSON,
17 Defendant.
18

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20 This case is set for a status conference on September 3, 2021. Dkt. 47. On May 13, 2020, this
21 Court issued General Order 618, which suspended all jury trials in the Eastern District of California

22 “until further notice.” Under General Order 618, a judge “may exercise his or her authority to continue

23 matters, excluding time under the Speedy Trial Act with reference to the court’s prior General Order 611

24 issued on March 17, 2020 . . . with additional findings to support the exclusion in the Judge’s

25 discretion.” General Order 618, ¶ 6 (E.D. Cal. May 13, 2020). In addition, any judge “may order case-
26 by-case exceptions” to General Order 618’s provisions “at the discretion of that Judge or upon the

27 request of counsel, after consultation with counsel and the Clerk of the Court to the extent such an order

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1 will impact court staff and operations.” General Order 618, ¶ 7 (E.D. Cal. May 13, 2020). This and

2 previous General Orders were entered to address public health concerns related to COVID-19.

3 Although the General Orders address the district-wide health concern, the Supreme Court has
4 emphasized that the Speedy Trial Act’s end-of-justice provision “counteract substantive

5 openendedness with procedural strictness,” “demand[ing] on-the-record findings” in a particular case.

6 Zedner v. United States, 547 U.S. 489, 509 (2006). “[W]ithout on-the-record findings, there can be no

7 exclusion under” § 3161(h)(7)(A). Id. at 507. Moreover, any such failure cannot be harmless. Id. at

8 509; see also United States v. Ramirez-Cortez, 213 F.3d 1149, 1153 (9th Cir. 2000) (explaining that a
9 judge ordering an ends-of-justice continuance must set forth explicit findings on the record “either orally

10 or in writing”).

11 Based on the plain text of the Speedy Trial Act—which Zedner emphasizes as both mandatory
12 and inexcusable—General Orders 611, 612, 617, and 618 require specific supplementation. Ends-of-

13 justice continuances are excludable only if “the judge granted such continuance on the basis of his

14 findings that the ends of justice served by taking such action outweigh the best interest of the public and

15 the defendant in a speedy trial.” 18 U.S.C. § 3161(h)(7)(A). Moreover, no such period is excludable

16 unless “the court sets forth, in the record of the case, either orally or in writing, its reason or finding that

17 the ends of justice served by the granting of such continuance outweigh the best interests of the public

18 and the defendant in a speedy trial.” Id.

19 The General Orders exclude delay in the “ends of justice.” 18 U.S.C. § 3161(h)(7) (Local Code
20 T4). Although the Speedy Trial Act does not directly address continuances stemming from pandemics,

21 natural disasters, or other emergencies, this Court has discretion to order a continuance in such

22 circumstances. For example, the Ninth Circuit affirmed a two-week ends-of-justice continuance

23 following Mt. St. Helens’ eruption. Furlow v. United States, 644 F.2d 764 (9th Cir. 1981). The court

24 recognized that the eruption created “appreciable difficulty” for the trial to proceed. Id. at 767-69; see

25 also United States v. Correa, 182 F. Supp. 326, 329 (S.D.N.Y. 2001) (citing Furlow to exclude time
26 following the September 11, 2001 terrorist attacks and the resultant public emergency).

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1 The coronavirus is posing a similar, albeit much more enduring, “appreciable difficulty” to the
2 prompt proceedings mandated by the statutory rules. Recently, the Ninth Circuit enumerated a “non-

3 exhaustive” list of seven factors it found to be “relevant” in considering ends-of-justice Speedy Trial Act

4 continuances “in the context of the COVID-19 pandemic.” United States v. Olsen, --- F.3d ---, 2021 WL

5 1589359 at *7 (9th Cir. Apr. 23, 2021). That non-exhaustive list includes: (1) whether a defendant is

6 detained pending trial; (2) how long a defendant has been detained; (3) whether a defendant has invoked

7 speedy trial rights since the case’s inception; (4) whether a defendant, if detained, belongs to a

8 population that is particularly susceptible to complications if infected with the virus; (5) the seriousness
9 of the charges defendant faces, and in particular whether the defendant is accused of violent crimes; (6)

10 whether there is a reasons to suspect recidivism if the charges against the defendant are dismissed; and

11 (7) whether the district court has the ability to safely conduct a trial. Id.

12 In light of the foregoing, this Court should consider the following case-specific facts in finding
13 excludable delay appropriate in this particular case under the ends-of-justice exception, § 3161(h)(7)

14 (Local Code T4). If continued, this Court should designate a new date for this matter’s next status

15 conference. United States v. Lewis, 611 F.3d 1172, 1176 (9th Cir. 2010) (noting any pretrial

16 continuance must be “specifically limited in time”).

17 STIPULATION
18 THE PARTIES HEREBY STIPULATE, through their respective attorneys of record, Assistant
19 United States Attorney Brian W. Enos, counsel for the government, and Peter M. Jones, counsel for

20 defendant Nathan Daniel Larson (“defendant”), that this action’s Friday, September 3, 2021 status

21 conference be continued to Friday, September 17, 2021, at 9:30 a.m. The parties likewise ask the

22 court to endorse this stipulation by way of formal order.

23 The parties base this stipulation on good cause. Specifically,
24 1. On May 19, 2021, the government filed a motion for (1) a mental examination to determine
25 defendant’s competency, as well as a (2) subsequent competency hearing. Dkt. 24. On June
26 2, 2021, defense counsel filed its response brief, wherein it joined in the government’s
27 motion and further asked the court to order defendant’s sanity likewise to be examined,
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1 pursuant to 18 U.S.C. § 4242(a), at the same time as the competency examination. Dkt. 31,
2 1:26-28 and 7:8-12.
3 2. On June 11, 2021, the court held a hearing on the above motions, and granted them after
4 hearing and considering the views of both counsel and defendant. Dkts. 42 and 44. As a
5 result, the court ordered defendant “committed to the custody of the U.S. Bureau of Prisons
6 for the period of examination for placement in a suitable facility, and the U.S. Marshal’s
7 Service is directed to transfer him to a suitable facility for examination, with the court
8 recommending a suitable facility within a reasonable proximity to this District.” Dkt. 44,
9 2:18-22. The court also set a status conference for July 23, 2021 to discuss the status of
10 defendant’s above examinations. Dkt. 42.
11 3. By June 23, 2021, counsel had heard from the Bureau of Prisons’ Lisa Matthews, Chief
12 Psychologist at the Bureau of Prison’s Metropolitan Detention Center (MDC) in Los
13 Angeles, wherein she (1) advised that defendant had been designated to MDC-LA and (2)
14 asked for various types of records from the parties to assist with the examinations.
15 4. On August 30, this court’s chambers and counsel for both parties received a note that Dr.
16 Samantha Shelton of MDC-LA had directed to the U.S. Marshals, advising that she was Mr.
17 Larson’s “evaluator assigned to this case” and that his “study period will expire on
18 September 11, 2021.” She also advised that she would “put in the request to return him to
19 [this] district after that date.” After receiving the above information from Dr. Shelton, the
20 parties discussed this issue with chambers and pursuant to the same identified September 17,
21 2021 as a continued status conference date wherein both the parties and the court are
22 available to address the status of the case and Mr. Larson’s return to the Eastern District of
23 California.
24 5. The parties therefore stipulate that the period of time from September 3, 2021, through
25 September 17, 2021, is deemed excludable pursuant to: (1) 18 U.S.C. § 3161(h)(1)(A)
26 because the examinations to determine the mental capacity of the defendant as described
27 above remain ongoing; as well as (2) 18 U.S.C. §§ 3161(h)(7)(A) and 3161(h)(7)(B)(i) and
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1 (iv) because it results from a continuance granted by the Court at the parties’ request on the
2 basis of the Court’s finding that the ends of justice served by taking such action outweigh the
3 best interest of the public and the defendant in a speedy trial.
4 IT IS SO STIPULATED.

5 Dated: September 1, 2021 PHILLIP A. TALBERT
Acting United States Attorney
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By: /sneed/ Brian W. Enos
7 Brian W. Enos
Assistant United States Attorney
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9 (As authorized 9/1/21)
10 Dated: September 1, 2021 By: /sneed/ Peter M. Jones
Peter M. Jones, Esq.
11 Attorney for Defendant
Nathan Daniel Larson
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1 ORDER
2 IT IS ORDERED that the status hearing currently set for September 3, 2021, at 8:30 am is
3 continued until September 17, 2021, at 9:30 am.

4 IT IS FURTHER ORDERED THAT the period of time from September 3, 2021, through
5 September 17, 2021, is deemed excludable pursuant to 18 U.S.C. § 3161(h)(1)(A) because the

6 examinations to determine the mental capacity of the defendant as described above remain ongoing; as

7 well as 18 U.S.C. §§ 3161(h)(7)(A) and 3161(h)(7)(B)(i) and (iv) because it results from a continuance

8 granted by the Court at defendants’ request on the basis of the Court’s finding that the ends of justice
9 served by taking such action outweigh the best interest of the public and the defendant in a speedy trial.

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IT IS SO ORDERED.
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12 Dated: September 1, 2021
UNITED STATES DISTRICT JUDGE
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1 PHILLIP A. TALBERT
Acting United States Attorney
2 BRIAN W. ENOS
Assistant United States Attorney
3 2500 Tulare Street, Suite 4401
Fresno, Ca 93721
4 Telephone: (559) 497-4000
Facsimile: (559) 497-4099
5

6 Attorneys for Plaintiff
United States of America
7

8 UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT
9 EASTERN DISTRICT OF CALIFORNIA
10

11 UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, Case No: 1:21-cr-00022 NONE/SKO
12 Plaintiff, STIPULATION TO CONTINUE SEPTEMBER
17, 2021 STATUS CONFERENCE TO
13 OCTOBER 15, 2021; ORDER
14 v.
15

16 NATHAN DANIEL LARSON,
17 Defendant.
18

19

20 This case is set for a status conference on September 17, 2021. Dkt. 50. On May 13, 2020, this
21 Court issued General Order 618, which suspended all jury trials in the Eastern District of California

22 “until further notice.” Under General Order 618, a judge “may exercise his or her authority to continue

23 matters, excluding time under the Speedy Trial Act with reference to the court’s prior General Order 611

24 issued on March 17, 2020 . . . with additional findings to support the exclusion in the Judge’s

25 discretion.” General Order 618, ¶ 6 (E.D. Cal. May 13, 2020). In addition, any judge “may order case-
26 by-case exceptions” to General Order 618’s provisions “at the discretion of that Judge or upon the

27 request of counsel, after consultation with counsel and the Clerk of the Court to the extent such an order

28 1
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1 will impact court staff and operations.” General Order 618, ¶ 7 (E.D. Cal. May 13, 2020). This and

2 previous General Orders were entered to address public health concerns related to COVID-19.

3 Although the General Orders address the district-wide health concern, the Supreme Court has
4 emphasized that the Speedy Trial Act’s end-of-justice provision “counteract substantive

5 openendedness with procedural strictness,” “demand[ing] on-the-record findings” in a particular case.

6 Zedner v. United States, 547 U.S. 489, 509 (2006). “[W]ithout on-the-record findings, there can be no

7 exclusion under” § 3161(h)(7)(A). Id. at 507. Moreover, any such failure cannot be harmless. Id. at

8 509; see also United States v. Ramirez-Cortez, 213 F.3d 1149, 1153 (9th Cir. 2000) (explaining that a
9 judge ordering an ends-of-justice continuance must set forth explicit findings on the record “either orally

10 or in writing”).

11 Based on the plain text of the Speedy Trial Act—which Zedner emphasizes as both mandatory
12 and inexcusable—General Orders 611, 612, 617, and 618 require specific supplementation. Ends-of-

13 justice continuances are excludable only if “the judge granted such continuance on the basis of his

14 findings that the ends of justice served by taking such action outweigh the best interest of the public and

15 the defendant in a speedy trial.” 18 U.S.C. § 3161(h)(7)(A). Moreover, no such period is excludable

16 unless “the court sets forth, in the record of the case, either orally or in writing, its reason or finding that

17 the ends of justice served by the granting of such continuance outweigh the best interests of the public

18 and the defendant in a speedy trial.” Id.

19 The General Orders exclude delay in the “ends of justice.” 18 U.S.C. § 3161(h)(7) (Local Code
20 T4). Although the Speedy Trial Act does not directly address continuances stemming from pandemics,

21 natural disasters, or other emergencies, this Court has discretion to order a continuance in such

22 circumstances. For example, the Ninth Circuit affirmed a two-week ends-of-justice continuance

23 following Mt. St. Helens’ eruption. Furlow v. United States, 644 F.2d 764 (9th Cir. 1981). The court

24 recognized that the eruption created “appreciable difficulty” for the trial to proceed. Id. at 767-69; see

25 also United States v. Correa, 182 F. Supp. 326, 329 (S.D.N.Y. 2001) (citing Furlow to exclude time
26 following the September 11, 2001 terrorist attacks and the resultant public emergency).

27 ///

28 2
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1 The coronavirus is posing a similar, albeit much more enduring, “appreciable difficulty” to the
2 prompt proceedings mandated by the statutory rules. Recently, the Ninth Circuit enumerated a “non-

3 exhaustive” list of seven factors it found to be “relevant” in considering ends-of-justice Speedy Trial Act

4 continuances “in the context of the COVID-19 pandemic.” United States v. Olsen, --- F.3d ---, 2021 WL

5 1589359 at *7 (9th Cir. Apr. 23, 2021). That non-exhaustive list includes: (1) whether a defendant is

6 detained pending trial; (2) how long a defendant has been detained; (3) whether a defendant has invoked

7 speedy trial rights since the case’s inception; (4) whether a defendant, if detained, belongs to a

8 population that is particularly susceptible to complications if infected with the virus; (5) the seriousness
9 of the charges defendant faces, and in particular whether the defendant is accused of violent crimes; (6)

10 whether there is a reasons to suspect recidivism if the charges against the defendant are dismissed; and

11 (7) whether the district court has the ability to safely conduct a trial. Id.

12 In light of the foregoing, this Court should consider the following case-specific facts in finding
13 excludable delay appropriate in this particular case under the ends-of-justice exception, § 3161(h)(7)

14 (Local Code T4). If continued, this Court should designate a new date for this matter’s next status

15 conference. United States v. Lewis, 611 F.3d 1172, 1176 (9th Cir. 2010) (noting any pretrial

16 continuance must be “specifically limited in time”).

17 STIPULATION
18 THE PARTIES HEREBY STIPULATE, through their respective attorneys of record, Assistant
19 United States Attorney Brian W. Enos, counsel for the government, and Peter M. Jones, counsel for

20 defendant Nathan Daniel Larson (“defendant”), that this action’s Friday, September 17, 2021 status

21 conference be continued to Friday, October 15, 2021, at 9:30 a.m. The parties likewise ask the court

22 to endorse this stipulation by way of formal order.

23 The parties base this stipulation on good cause. Specifically,
24 1. On May 19, 2021, the government filed a motion for (1) a mental examination to determine
25 defendant’s competency, as well as a (2) subsequent competency hearing. Dkt. 24. On June
26 2, 2021, defense counsel filed a response brief, wherein it joined in the government’s motion
27 and further asked the court to order defendant’s sanity likewise to be examined, pursuant to
28 3
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1 18 U.S.C. § 4242(a), at the same time as the competency examination. Dkt. 31, 1:26-28 and
2 7:8-12.
3 2. On June 11, 2021, the court held a hearing on the above motions, and granted them after
4 hearing and considering the views of both counsel and defendant. Dkts. 42 and 44. As a
5 result, the court ordered defendant “committed to the custody of the U.S. Bureau of Prisons
6 for the period of examination for placement in a suitable facility, and the U.S. Marshal’s
7 Service is directed to transfer him to a suitable facility for examination, with the court
8 recommending a suitable facility within a reasonable proximity to this District.” Dkt. 44,
9 2:18-22. The court also set a status conference for July 23, 2021 to discuss the status of
10 defendant’s above examinations. Dkt. 42.
11 3. By June 23, 2021, counsel had heard from the Bureau of Prisons’ Lisa Matthews, Chief
12 Psychologist at the Bureau of Prison’s Metropolitan Detention Center (MDC) in Los
13 Angeles, wherein she (1) advised that defendant had been designated to MDC-LA and (2)
14 asked for various types of records from the parties to assist with the examinations.
15 4. On August 30, this court’s chambers and counsel for both parties received a note that Dr.
16 Samantha Shelton of MDC-LA had directed to the U.S. Marshals, advising that she was Mr.
17 Larson’s “evaluator assigned to this case” and that his “study period will expire on
18 September 11, 2021.” She also advised that she would “put in the request to return him to
19 [this] district after that date.”
20 5. On September 9, 2021, this court’s chambers notified the parties that it had received a letter
21 from Warden W.Z. Jenkins of MPD-LA, asking the court for permission for defendant’s
22 evaluator to submit her report regarding defendant “by October 1, 2021.” Warden Jenkins
23 based this request on, among other things: (1) defendant’s “study period” not starting until
24 July 13, 2021 (and despite his June 29, 2021 arrival) because the “COVID-19 pandemic
25 [required] all new arrivals” to undergo a quarantine period; and (2) the pandemic further
26 requiring “restricted movement within the facility [which was] expected to continue
27 indefinitely,” and thereby impacting his facility’s “ability to conduct and complete
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1 evaluations under the normal time frames.” The parties understand the court granted MDC-
2 LA’s request.
3 6. After hearing from the court in this regard, the parties discussed this issue with chambers and
4 pursuant to the same identified October 15, 2021 as a continued status conference date
5 wherein both the parties and the court are available to address the status of the case and Mr.
6 Larson’s return to the Eastern District of California.
7 7. The parties therefore stipulate that the period of time from September 17, 2021, through
8 October 15, 2021, is deemed excludable pursuant to: (1) 18 U.S.C. § 3161(h)(1)(A) because
9 the examinations to determine the mental capacity of the defendant as described above
10 remain ongoing; as well as (2) 18 U.S.C. §§ 3161(h)(7)(A) and 3161(h)(7)(B)(i) and (iv)
11 because it results from a continuance granted by the Court at the parties’ request on the basis
12 of the Court’s finding that the ends of justice served by taking such action outweigh the best
13 interest of the public and the defendant in a speedy trial.
14 IT IS SO STIPULATED.

15 Dated: September 10, 2021 PHILLIP A. TALBERT
Acting United States Attorney
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By: /sneed/ Brian W. Enos
17 Brian W. Enos
Assistant United States Attorney
18

19 (As authorized 9/10/21)
20 Dated: September 10, 2021 By: /sneed/ Peter M. Jones
Peter M. Jones, Esq.
21 Attorney for Defendant
Nathan Daniel Larson
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1 ORDER
2 IT IS ORDERED that the status hearing currently set for September 17, 2021, at 8:30 am is
3 continued until October 15, 2021, at 9:30 am.

4 IT IS FURTHER ORDERED THAT the period of time from September 17, 2021, through
5 October 15, 2021, is deemed excludable pursuant to 18 U.S.C. § 3161(h)(1)(A) because the

6 examinations to determine the mental capacity of the defendant as described above remain ongoing; as

7 well as 18 U.S.C. §§ 3161(h)(7)(A) and 3161(h)(7)(B)(i) and (iv) because it results from a continuance

8 granted by the Court at defendants’ request on the basis of the Court’s finding that the ends of justice
9 served by taking such action outweigh the best interest of the public and the defendant in a speedy trial.

10
IT IS SO ORDERED.
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12 Dated: September 13, 2021
UNITED STATES DISTRICT JUDGE
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I don't have anything else, sadly. Keep in mind that this is just the meeting so far, so the trial will probably have to wait until the mental health report gets back. I'm not the type of guy to bet on anything, but I'll probably say that based on the pace this is going at, the trial will begin sometime in 2022. Maybe November or December, but that's pushing it in terms of optimism.

Also, I don't have a PACER account, but if anyone wants to chip in and pay the cash to see the transcript from Nathan's competency trial (the link is here) and share it with the rest of us, I'd be glad.

Actually, ignore that (since strikethrough isn't working for me) - I have the transcripts.

----

I GOT TRANSCRIPTS, FOLKS.
Here they are. Transcripts of Nathan's Zoom hearings, arraignment, all that good stuff, all in text format. Just open the spoiler. I have to put them in a Pastebin because they break the 64,000 word limit (seriously!). If you prefer the full thing, they're all attached to the post.

Also, here's some interesting moments from the transcripts...
From the Arraignment...
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Where did he come up with these stats? Did he actually do some research or is he using the age old pull-bullshit-out-of-his-ass routine?

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Presented without comment.

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Bail denied!

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Nathan interrupts the judge again.

From the Status Conference
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To the surprise of nobody, Nathan doesn't know how to file a motion with the court clerk. And he actually expects to win this going pro se?

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The judge doesn't like his bullshit very much, as you can see from the overall tone here. (The other motion was one to appear pro per/pro se.)

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The clerk states the obvious. Nathan can't file a motion properly, so how is the court supposed to have any clue of what the hell he's talking about?

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And henceforth we see the problem with non-lawyers trying to file legal motions in court.

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You know, I can't help but feel bad for the prosecutor here. Maybe it's just me.

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Presented without comment.

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If what I think is on the thumb drive is on the thumb drive (and knowing Nathan as the sick twisted fuck he is), this poor guy is in for a very hard time.

Zoom Hearing
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Breaking news: Nathan is an obstinate piece of shit.

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Dear God, this guy is annoying as fuck. Just shut the hell up and put a mask on your face if you want to go pro se.

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I'm baffled that this even has to be explained to him.

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Oh my God. Nathan, they can't go ahead with the Faretta hearing because you're too much of a lazy shit to either put on a mask or do the whole thing over video. This isn't fucking rocket science.

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That's the end of the sccreenshots.

Man, this post took forever to make. At least it's out there. I can't wait once they go to trial. Nathan is going to get absolutely incinerated on cross-examination.
 

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Darwin Watterson

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Maybe someone else addressed this, but does anyone know anything about Nathan’s wife? Like, for example, if she even exists? Not the one that killed herself. His wiki page has a long bit about that, and then a single sentence saying that he’s since remarried. There seems to be literally nothing else about that second marriage though. I’m curious about who would marry...him.
 

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Maybe someone else addressed this, but does anyone know anything about Nathan’s wife? Like, for example, if she even exists? Not the one that killed herself. His wiki page has a long bit about that, and then a single sentence saying that he’s since remarried. There seems to be literally nothing else about that second marriage though. I’m curious about who would marry...him.
You might be referring to his Filipino wife....well.... actually ex-wife.

Her name is Meshelle and she definitely exists.

She was abused by Nathan as well, if not worse than the first wife. He raped her multiple times to try and have children with her, but failed to get her pregnant somehow. The marriage did not last long at all and she filed a restraining order. He also got served a search warrant, but I don't think anything came out of it really.

He was obsessively stalking her, even after they've split up.
 

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The prosecution filed an order for another continuance and got it (archived). Seems to me like they're gathering as much evidence as they can so that they can throw the book at Nathan's ass, or they're waiting on the mental competency report to finally come through. Maybe it's both.

I know that the prosecution generally offers plea deals to the defendants, but what are the chances (let's be realistic here) that he ends up getting something favorable in the plea deal? Since he's the one who's negotiating it, my best guess is that it will be 0%, and that his best deal is life imprisonment without parole.
 

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Since he's the one who's negotiating it, my best guess is that it will be 0%, and that his best deal is life imprisonment without parole.
Actually kidnapping a child with the obvious intent of rape and the very possible intent of murder is the kind of thing that puts you into the highest tier, registered for life sex offender at best, if you even get out. This dude is thoroughly fucked and good.
 

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The prosecution filed an order for another continuance and got it (archived). Seems to me like they're gathering as much evidence as they can so that they can throw the book at Nathan's ass, or they're waiting on the mental competency report to finally come through. Maybe it's both.

I know that the prosecution generally offers plea deals to the defendants, but what are the chances (let's be realistic here) that he ends up getting something favorable in the plea deal? Since he's the one who's negotiating it, my best guess is that it will be 0%, and that his best deal is life imprisonment without parole.

According to what I've read from the transcripts, they're waiting for the mental competency report - and it's necessary to determine if the court will allow him to represent himself in court (and Nathan doesn't seem to want any of this to be part of the public record). If he is allowed to represent himself but is later revealed to not be mentally competent, it could easily be grounds for appeal. Looking at the transcripts, I wonder if this is an attempt in earnest, or just a stalling technique...but it would only stall a trial, since he's being held without bail. Maybe he expects better treatment if he remains in lockup on a pretrial basis (which is unlikely - jail tends to be a bit worse than prison in that it's less predictable).
 

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Yet another continuance. Now December 2, 2021 as "a date wherein both the parties and the court are available to address the status of the case" which is not even the trial.
This could easily go on for years. Lawyers for both sides understand this motherfucker is going away for a long, long time and there's no way around that. So there's no real problem letting this vermin cool his heels behind bars for as long as the defense can put off the inevitable.

Look at Mercedes Carrera. She was arrested over two years ago and no trial date is likely any time in the near future. It's been delayed at least 12 times (I lost count if there were any after that). The prosecution probably doesn't care either so long as the bitch is behind bars in the meantime.

Also I'm pretty sure they have to adjudicate his right to proceed pro se before anything else of merit in the case, because if they refuse to allow him to do so and then do anything of substance and it turns out he actually was competent to do that and lose his case with insane, disgusting arguments, do they really want to risk an appeal on that?

He could also probably throw a monkey wrench into the works by filing a pro se interlocutory appeal saying this guy Peter Michael Jones isn't his real lawyer and he demands his right to self-representation.

It won't matter in the long run, this dude is fucked, but he has options at his disposal if just being a giant pain in the ass is what he wants.
 
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