War Navy commander orders SEALs to shape up - "What is this Mickey Mouse shit?!"

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Just the blatant: Army Rangers don't train or deal with partisans. That's Green Berets. Army Rangers range from commando style raids, ambushes to light infantry shock troops. In simple terms, they kill with some reconnasiance ability...

Also, SEALs don't have a 99 percent drop rate. Its more 65-75 percent. Their training is hard and brutal but that video is just pure 'superhero' nonsense.

After half way, I turned it off. It was probably sponsored by the U.S Navy. A SEAL would probably be embarrased by it...
 

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Just the blatant: Army Rangers don't train or deal with partisans. That's Green Berets. Army Rangers range from commando style raids, ambushes to light infantry shock troops. In simple terms, they kill with some reconnasiance ability...

Also, SEALs don't have a 99 percent drop rate. Its more 65-75 percent. Their training is hard and brutal but that video is just pure 'superhero' nonsense.

After half way, I turned it off. It was probably sponsored by the U.S Navy. A SEAL would probably be embarrased by it...
We wouldn't be having this thread if SEALs knew how to feel shame, but here we are.
 

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Yup, heads rolling. The guys fired knew this was coming. My guess...the commander and the command master chief have either put in their retirement papers or will do so real quick. The lieutenant commander, if he has enough time in, will have done the same. Now, depending just how badly the Navy is pissed off at the lieutenant commander, he could well be put quietly in a corner until retirement-eligible. Am also sure the lieutenant in charge of the platoon kicked back to the States has been fired, likely his executive officer, and the team's chief petty officer, maybe some leading petty officers have been fired, plus non-judicial and other Uniform Code of Military Justice action for various platoon members. If the lieutenant and chief petty officer have enough time in to retire, they've surely put in the papers. Exec and leading petty officers may be fucked unless they decide to just put them quietly in a corner for a while until this shit blows over. This happens in the military more often than you may think.

Now the SEAL leadership must make very sure not to tar all SEALs with the same brush. The vast majority serve honorably. Personally, I'd go out and talk to as many SEAL teams as I could. Gist - The vast majority of you serve quite well and honorably. I'm your biggest supporter. We're cleaning house of the ones that aren't. I'm throwing their asses out of the SEAL community and the Navy. No more is expected of you than is expected of any other member of the Navy, including me. Now let's get out there and take care of business, gentlemen.





Top Navy SEAL admiral fires entire leadership team of SEAL Team 7
Paul Szoldra
September 06, 2019 at 04:26 PMNEWS

The top admiral in charge of Naval Special Warfare has fired the entire leadership team of SEAL Team 7 over a "breakdown of good order and discipline," a spokeswoman for Naval Special Warfare Command told Task & Purpose on Friday.

Cmdr. Edward Mason, the commanding officer of ST7; Lt. Cmdr. Luke Im, the executive officer; and Command Master Chief Hugh Spangler were all relieved of their leadership posts on Friday, said Cmdr. Tamara Lawrence.
The relief was carried out by Rear Adm. Colin Green, the commanding officer of NSW. Lawrence said their relief was "due to a loss of confidence that resulted from leadership failures that caused a breakdown of good order and discipline within two subordinate units while deployed to combat zones."

The spokeswoman declined to name who would take their place, citing operational security concerns for those SEALs and their families.

The "two subordinate units" are likely references to ST7 Alpha and Foxtrot Platoon, though Lawrence declined to name them when asked by Task & Purpose.

SEAL Team 7 Alpha Platoon made national news after SEAL Chief Eddie Gallagher was accused of war crimes during a 2017 deployment to Mosul, Iraq. Despite his acquittal on murder charges in early July, his court-martial revealed that members of the platoon had constructed their own rooftop bar in Iraq and engaged in other alleged misconduct on deployment.

More recently, the entirety of SEAL Team 7 Foxtrot Platoon was pulled out of Iraq last month amid allegations of a boozy Fourth of July party and an allegation of sexual assault.

The relief comes amid these and other high-profile scandals in the SEAL community that has ignited a discussion amongst the senior ranks about ethics and discipline in the small force, which numbers less than 2,500 personnel in a Navy of more than 437,000 active-duty and reserve sailors.

Green sent a letter to commanders in July proclaiming that "we have a problem," while urging them to detail what issues they see and provide recommendations by Aug. 7 on how to get the SEAL community off the skyline.

"I don't know yet if we have a culture problem," Rear Adm. Colin Green wrote in a letter to the command. "I do know that we have a good order and discipline problem that must be addressed immediately."

"Some of our subordinate formations have failed to maintain good order and discipline and as a result and for good reason," the culture of the SEALs "is being questioned," he added.
https://taskandpurpose.com/seal-admiral-problem
 

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Top Navy SEAL admiral fires entire leadership team of SEAL Team 7
Paul Szoldra
September 06, 2019 at 04:26 PMNEWS

The top admiral in charge of Naval Special Warfare has fired the entire leadership team of SEAL Team 7 over a "breakdown of good order and discipline," a spokeswoman for Naval Special Warfare Command told Task & Purpose on Friday.

Cmdr. Edward Mason, the commanding officer of ST7; Lt. Cmdr. Luke Im, the executive officer; and Command Master Chief Hugh Spangler were all relieved of their leadership posts on Friday, said Cmdr. Tamara Lawrence.
The relief was carried out by Rear Adm. Colin Green, the commanding officer of NSW. Lawrence said their relief was "due to a loss of confidence that resulted from leadership failures that caused a breakdown of good order and discipline within two subordinate units while deployed to combat zones."

The spokeswoman declined to name who would take their place, citing operational security concerns for those SEALs and their families.

The "two subordinate units" are likely references to ST7 Alpha and Foxtrot Platoon, though Lawrence declined to name them when asked by Task & Purpose.

SEAL Team 7 Alpha Platoon made national news after SEAL Chief Eddie Gallagher was accused of war crimes during a 2017 deployment to Mosul, Iraq. Despite his acquittal on murder charges in early July, his court-martial revealed that members of the platoon had constructed their own rooftop bar in Iraq and engaged in other alleged misconduct on deployment.

More recently, the entirety of SEAL Team 7 Foxtrot Platoon was pulled out of Iraq last month amid allegations of a boozy Fourth of July party and an allegation of sexual assault.

The relief comes amid these and other high-profile scandals in the SEAL community that has ignited a discussion amongst the senior ranks about ethics and discipline in the small force, which numbers less than 2,500 personnel in a Navy of more than 437,000 active-duty and reserve sailors.

Green sent a letter to commanders in July proclaiming that "we have a problem," while urging them to detail what issues they see and provide recommendations by Aug. 7 on how to get the SEAL community off the skyline.

"I don't know yet if we have a culture problem," Rear Adm. Colin Green wrote in a letter to the command. "I do know that we have a good order and discipline problem that must be addressed immediately."

"Some of our subordinate formations have failed to maintain good order and discipline and as a result and for good reason," the culture of the SEALs "is being questioned," he added.
https://taskandpurpose.com/seal-admiral-problem
Oh wow, shit is getting real.

About time, I suppose. Let's see how this develops.
 

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The Navy is taking proactive steps and making changes to SEAL training.


https://www.duffelblog.com/2019/09/navy-relocates-bud-s-to-fort-leavenworth/

FORT LEAVENWORTH, Kan. — The US Navy has decided to get in front of some of the SEAL controversies by relocating BUD/S to Fort Leavenworth, home of the Army’s Command and General Staff College.

The instillation also is home to the U.S. Disciplinary Barracks, which houses the DoD’s sole maximum security prison—and 89 percent of all living Navy SEALs.


Commander Josiah Taylor, public affairs officer for the newly renamed Joint Base Leavenworth, says it’s a good deal for the Navy and the larger Department of Defense.

“We feel it’s an opportunity for a real juicy outreach program,” Taylor said. “SEALs who have gotten caught can now mentor SEAL ‘pups’ to teach them how to not get caught drinking on deployment, how not to stash a dead hooker in a car trunk, and all the other murder-schmurder sort of stuffy stuff.”

SEALs will be trained on JB Leavenworth will use it as a main base.

“This will cut down costs dramatically,” Taylor says, “as moving a SEAL from trial to imprisonment will now be as easy as driving down the street.”


Taylor notes, “This will also allow for the traditions of the SEALs to also be brought in to Joint Base Leavenworth. For example, there is a bell located in the SEAL wing of the Leavenworth prison.”

He adds, that this has caused some consternation, though.

“The SEALs are confused as to how and why ringing the bell doesn’t decrease their sentence or free them.”
 

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Some more on the SEAL chief petty and commissioned officers who were fired.

The lieutenant commander needs to find somewhere to hide for a while, until this blows over. Hope the Navy will cut him some slack. Officers with Im's experience take a while to develop. He'll need to make commander to get to 20 years. Im was first eligible for commander in 2018. Either he's met one commander's board or would meet one very soon. Not good. If he was already picked up for commander, bet his promotion will be red-lined. If he's meeting a board soon, his packet will be pulled. Navy has "up or out", basically. If Im is passed over for commander twice, if he's lucky he'd be picked for continuation. If not, he has to get out of the Navy.

Commander Mason and Master Chief Spangler surely have their retirement papers in. I'm sure they'll find civilian employment fairly easily, perhaps become contractors to the military. Happens all the time.



Why the entire SEAL Team 7 leadership team got canned
By: Navy Times staff   3 days ago

U.S. Navy Sea, Air, and Land team members conduct military field operations during exercise Trident 18-4 at Hurlburt Field, Florida, on July 11th, 2018. (Staff Sgt. Corban Lundborg/Air Force)

In the wake of a series of scandals dogging California-based SEAL Team 7, the entire senior leadership team was relieved of duty on Friday morning.

Rear Adm. Collin Green fired the team’s commanding officer, Cmdr. Edward James Mason, executive officer Lt. Cmdr. Luke Hong Il Im, and their top enlisted adviser, Command Master Chief Hugh Chance Spangler, due to what officials termed “a loss of confidence that resulted from leadership failures that caused a breakdown of good order and discipline within two subordinate units while deployed to combat zones.”

WARCOM spokeswoman Capt. Tamara Lawrence told Navy Times that officials will not identify the triad who will replace the three leaders “due to the nature of their work, for their safety, for the safety of their teammates and families, and the safety of current and future missions.”

The statements by Lawrence and other SEAL officials to Navy Times never implicated the triad for any personal misconduct but instead point a spotlight at alleged wrongdoing by their subordinate units.

Lawrence won’t identify the two units tied to the alleged misbehavior, but they might be SEAL Team 7′s Foxtrot platoon and another detachment that was sent to Yemen.

Following a boozy July 4th party in Iraq, Special Operations Command superiors booted Foxtrot back to Naval Base Coronado, with ongoing investigations for sexual assault, fraternization and other allegations of misconduct trailing in their wake.

Citing the clandestine nature of the counter-terrorism work there, officials have been quieter about the Yemen unit.
Another master chief from that detachment was relieved of his position on the team but he won’t be named by WARCOM because he’s not in a leadership triad.


SEALs lawyered up during war crimes case, then prosecutors went after their lawyer


A highly decorated SEAL who is widely respected throughout the ranks of special operators, Mason did not return a text message left on a mobile phone registered to his name. Other lines were busy, too.

Originally from Minnesota and educated at the Naval Academy, he was commissioned in 1999 and pinned on his present rank 16 years later, according to military records released to Navy Times.
Contacted by phone, Im said, “no comment” and then hung up.

Also highly decorated for combat operations in Iraq and Afghanistan, Im has not responded to text messages placed by Navy Times since Aug. 13, when rumors about the triad’s firing first began percolating out of the Coronado, California-based team.

Originally from New York, Im graduated from the Naval Academy and was commissioned in 2005. He picked up lieutenant commander in 2014.

Messages left by Navy Times with Spangler were not returned.

A legend in the special warfare community, he enlisted in the Navy in 1987 out of Florida and rose to master chief/special operations in 2015, according to his military records.

Spangler didn’t become a SEAL until late 1996, following stints on board the guided-missile cruiser Biddle, the dock landing ship Pensacola and the medium auxiliary floating drydock Resolute.

His decorations include eight Bronze Star Medals with Valor, two Joint Service Commendation Medals with Valor, four Presidential Unit Citations and the Purple Heart.

For SEALs, it’s back to regulation haircuts and uniform inspections

The triad’s removal comes at an awkward time for SEAL Team 7 and the larger WARCOM.

The bulk of the team’s Foxtrot Platoon comes off leave on Sept. 11 and there’s a Disciplinary Review Board of chief petty officers slated to convene for them the following day at Group 1 to investigate and mete out justice for the alleged alcohol offenses in Iraq.

The reliefs and the DRB also are all playing out in the wake of Green’s Aug. 20 “back to basics” directive that warned leaders he’ll hold them “accountable for all substandard issues related to your personnel on and off duty.”

Saying “a portion of this Force is ethically misaligned” with traditional SEAL culture because of those “who fail to correct this behavior” and instead “prioritize this misalignment over the loyalty to Navy and Nation," Green’s four-page memo also ordered his special operators to get regulation haircuts, undergo uniform inspections and ditch unapproved patches and other insignia.

“This drift ends now,” Green wrote in his order.
 

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For, umm, research purposes of course
Stripping cadets and humiliating them. Sticking things up the victims ass.
Its basically one step away from spitting then entering and thrusting til you cum

Also all the gay jokes about the navy and when you are away from women for so long...like prison...naturally you just go for the other men
 
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Some more on the SEAL chief petty and commissioned officers who were fired.

The lieutenant commander needs to find somewhere to hide for a while, until this blows over. Hope the Navy will cut him some slack. Officers with Im's experience take a while to develop. He'll need to make commander to get to 20 years. Im was first eligible for commander in 2018. Either he's met one commander's board or would meet one very soon. Not good. If he was already picked up for commander, bet his promotion will be red-lined. If he's meeting a board soon, his packet will be pulled. Navy has "up or out", basically. If Im is passed over for commander twice, if he's lucky he'd be picked for continuation. If not, he has to get out of the Navy.

Commander Mason and Master Chief Spangler surely have their retirement papers in. I'm sure they'll find civilian employment fairly easily, perhaps become contractors to the military. Happens all the time.



Why the entire SEAL Team 7 leadership team got canned
By: Navy Times staff   3 days ago

U.S. Navy Sea, Air, and Land team members conduct military field operations during exercise Trident 18-4 at Hurlburt Field, Florida, on July 11th, 2018. (Staff Sgt. Corban Lundborg/Air Force)

In the wake of a series of scandals dogging California-based SEAL Team 7, the entire senior leadership team was relieved of duty on Friday morning.

Rear Adm. Collin Green fired the team’s commanding officer, Cmdr. Edward James Mason, executive officer Lt. Cmdr. Luke Hong Il Im, and their top enlisted adviser, Command Master Chief Hugh Chance Spangler, due to what officials termed “a loss of confidence that resulted from leadership failures that caused a breakdown of good order and discipline within two subordinate units while deployed to combat zones.”

WARCOM spokeswoman Capt. Tamara Lawrence told Navy Times that officials will not identify the triad who will replace the three leaders “due to the nature of their work, for their safety, for the safety of their teammates and families, and the safety of current and future missions.”

The statements by Lawrence and other SEAL officials to Navy Times never implicated the triad for any personal misconduct but instead point a spotlight at alleged wrongdoing by their subordinate units.

Lawrence won’t identify the two units tied to the alleged misbehavior, but they might be SEAL Team 7′s Foxtrot platoon and another detachment that was sent to Yemen.

Following a boozy July 4th party in Iraq, Special Operations Command superiors booted Foxtrot back to Naval Base Coronado, with ongoing investigations for sexual assault, fraternization and other allegations of misconduct trailing in their wake.

Citing the clandestine nature of the counter-terrorism work there, officials have been quieter about the Yemen unit.
Another master chief from that detachment was relieved of his position on the team but he won’t be named by WARCOM because he’s not in a leadership triad.


SEALs lawyered up during war crimes case, then prosecutors went after their lawyer


A highly decorated SEAL who is widely respected throughout the ranks of special operators, Mason did not return a text message left on a mobile phone registered to his name. Other lines were busy, too.

Originally from Minnesota and educated at the Naval Academy, he was commissioned in 1999 and pinned on his present rank 16 years later, according to military records released to Navy Times.
Contacted by phone, Im said, “no comment” and then hung up.

Also highly decorated for combat operations in Iraq and Afghanistan, Im has not responded to text messages placed by Navy Times since Aug. 13, when rumors about the triad’s firing first began percolating out of the Coronado, California-based team.

Originally from New York, Im graduated from the Naval Academy and was commissioned in 2005. He picked up lieutenant commander in 2014.

Messages left by Navy Times with Spangler were not returned.

A legend in the special warfare community, he enlisted in the Navy in 1987 out of Florida and rose to master chief/special operations in 2015, according to his military records.

Spangler didn’t become a SEAL until late 1996, following stints on board the guided-missile cruiser Biddle, the dock landing ship Pensacola and the medium auxiliary floating drydock Resolute.

His decorations include eight Bronze Star Medals with Valor, two Joint Service Commendation Medals with Valor, four Presidential Unit Citations and the Purple Heart.

For SEALs, it’s back to regulation haircuts and uniform inspections

The triad’s removal comes at an awkward time for SEAL Team 7 and the larger WARCOM.

The bulk of the team’s Foxtrot Platoon comes off leave on Sept. 11 and there’s a Disciplinary Review Board of chief petty officers slated to convene for them the following day at Group 1 to investigate and mete out justice for the alleged alcohol offenses in Iraq.

The reliefs and the DRB also are all playing out in the wake of Green’s Aug. 20 “back to basics” directive that warned leaders he’ll hold them “accountable for all substandard issues related to your personnel on and off duty.”

Saying “a portion of this Force is ethically misaligned” with traditional SEAL culture because of those “who fail to correct this behavior” and instead “prioritize this misalignment over the loyalty to Navy and Nation," Green’s four-page memo also ordered his special operators to get regulation haircuts, undergo uniform inspections and ditch unapproved patches and other insignia.

“This drift ends now,” Green wrote in his order.
This is essentially the Chain of Command saying, that they're not buying the same line of bullshit anymore.

Listen to the crap the Seals come out with and compare it to say a SNCO in an Infantry Battalion Mortar Platoon. Who can you build a functioning military around. A fantasist that's looking for a book deal or a TV series on the Discovery channel, or a SNCO that wants to do his 22 years in the military to the best of his ability.
 

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More recently, the entirety of SEAL Team 7 Foxtrot Platoon was pulled out of Iraq last month amid allegations of a boozy Fourth of July party and an allegation of sexual assault.
So basically these guys were
  1. Helping murder Yemeni civilians for Saudi Arabia and Israel (a war crime)
  2. Getting on the piss on their off hours and fucking willing Filipino loggie sluts (recreation)
And they're getting shit-canned for #2?

Some real interesting priorities right there.
 
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