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AnOminous

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Wasn't most of the cotton sold/exported anyway? They probably just enriched some plantation owner's pocket instead.
Pretty much. So they enriched some scummy white dudes in the South, while at the same time leaving other white dudes without jobs. Hardly "building the country."
 

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AnOminous

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kcbbq

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Slavery was outlawed by the time your local strip mall and Wal-Mart was built. It would probably be more accurate to say low payed hispanics built this nation than slaves did at this point, if we want to talk in an overly literal, retarded sense.

In any case pre Industrial Revolution cash crops have very little to do with America's modern wealth.
Reeeeeee youre just as much a slave if you're paid for your work and allowed to quit whenever you want REEEEEEEE SPACE COMMUNISM
 

AnOminous

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Excelsiorref has just been banned today, does anyone know why?
Acting like a retard.
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I'm not sure why after acting like an absolute fuckwad for literally years this was ban-worthy.
 

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Marissa Moira

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In any case pre Industrial Revolution cash crops have very little to do with America's modern wealth.
They don't bother teaching that though. America had a fuckload going for it that was not dependent on having slaves. You could easily see once slavery was outlawed that states that depended on them went from rich to poor overnight. Everything was also destroyed during the civil war so a ton of stuff needed to be rebuilt.
 
pre Industrial Revolution cash crops have very little to do with America's modern wealth.
Seriously, the South's economy was so fucked by slavery-based agriculture and the persistent refusal to mechanize that it was only a matter of time before the whole thing either imploded or was forced to switch to industrial production methods. The latter was already underway by the time the Civil War rolled around - as in, slavery was naturally on its way out the door, and would likely have entirely peacefully ceased to exist given more time, because it just wasn't as profitable as industrialized agriculture (which employs fewer, more skilled laborers, not throngs of untrained humans, and thus does not engender demand for a constant supply of fresh meat, so to speak).

The North won the Civil War in large part because of its massive industrial advantage, which meant it wasn't using slave labor to prop up a large sector of its economy. The "white man" rendered slavery obsolete by technological means, then used said technological means to violently exterminate the practice of slavery not just in the United States, but in as many places around the globe as he could (thanks, Britain!). And he did it without taking credit for it on a racial basis. Yet these entitled black sons of bitches want to claim racial credit for building the USA. Not only are they dead wrong about the effect their labor had on the long-term development of the USA, but also they're horrendously culturally immature, in that they seem unable to simply embrace perceived forward progress without desperately clawing for race-based credit in the process.
 

WhatInTheActualFuck

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they seem unable to simply embrace perceived forward progress without desperately clawing for race-based credit in the process.
If the only thing you have to contribute to the conversation is your melanin, you have to maximize its impact, right?

Actual discourse is for Oreos and/or wypipo.

Also, I'm never going to take anyone that signed an 84-month contract for a fucking Nissan seriously ever.
 
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AnOminous

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The North won the Civil War in large part because of its massive industrial advantage, which meant it wasn't using slave labor to prop up a large sector of its economy.
It helped that the South vastly overestimated its clout in the world and thought the British and French were going to side with them, even threatening them with a cotton embargo. Since they had no real industrial base to turn cotton into finished goods, this self-inflicted injury guaranteed they'd be unable to have an effective wartime economy. They relied on the British and French, as well as the North, to turn cotton into finished goods.

By the time they figured out this was a mistake, it was too late and the North had effectively blockaded any attempt to export cotton.

tl;dr cotton just wasn't that important.
 

Dyn

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Hardly "building the country."
In any case pre Industrial Revolution cash crops have very little to do with America's modern wealth.
Hardly "building the country."
No, if it wasn't for the triangle trade nobody would have bothered to develop America in the first place. They're completely right about slavery being the bedrock the United States was built on, and you should remind them of this every time they try to take down another confederate monument.
 

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