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Kiwi & Cow

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Skimmed through the political thread for any gold nugget, found this intricate commentary on Socialism.

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I know some socialists fantasize about the complete breakdown of US institutions and the writing of a new constitution etc, because it's pretty much the only path for actual socialism to happen here in the US, but when people talk about it as a realistic path I'm always left asking this question.

If the constitution was thrown out tomorrow, how the hell do they think what replaced it would be socialism? If they took to the streets to fight to make it so... that isn't something they'd win.

It may be the only feasible path, but it so extremely unlikely to pan out that it's a fantasy those people need to abandon. The reality would be lots of bloodshed, and the people who would pay the majority of that cost aren't the people currently in power, or the white majority that society is currently tilted hard towards.

And the end result is far more likely to leave white supremacists more empowered than to bestow upon us a society that works equitably for everyone.

So yeah. I'll take pragmatism. I'll take trying to work with the system to make society better and to try and improve the system. There'll be plenty of movement in the wrong way, but I believe we will continue to see overall progress. Slow progress, for sure. But progress.
Do you all agree with what this fella is saying?
:agree: for based take.
:disagree: for cringe take.

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I don't swear

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Skimmed through the political thread for any gold nugget, found this intricate commentary on Socialism.

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Do you all agree with what this fella is saying?
:agree: for based take.
:disagree: for cringe take.

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In the middle but he is right that they just can't expect socialism to immediately prop up if they/we were to get rid of the constitution. Optimistic at best.
 

MrHoneyBadger

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Dreamland

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Skimmed through the political thread for any gold nugget, found this intricate commentary on Socialism.

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Do you all agree with what this fella is saying?
:agree: for based take.
:disagree: for cringe take.

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For socialism that involves unions and purchasing collectives there would only need to be a little willpower from the consumer to vote with their wallets and stand up for themselves. It can literally exist embedded in a capitalist system without any major changes.

For the brand of "socialism" that Chikor and Redmercury desire there would have to be pornographic amounts of bloodshed to a scope that would make Iron Felix blush, and that's before the internal purges that will happen when they discover people in their movement who said something racist on twitter once. Of course they would believe in a fully automated gay luxury space communism until it would be their turn to work the coal mines.
 

WhatInTheActualFuck

No, seriously... What the fuck?
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They don't want to call it choice anymore since they demanded vax mandates, and the anti-mandate protesters were slinging abortion rhetoric back in their faces.
Its not just that - "decision" makes it seem more thoughtfully considered, as opposed to something you do with as much care as picking what brand of toilet paper you purchase. I leave it as an exercise for the reader to determine which one is actually closer to reality, particularly for the "shout your abortion" types.
 

Alcoholism

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For socialism that involves unions and purchasing collectives there would only need to be a little willpower from the consumer to vote with their wallets and stand up for themselves. It can literally exist embedded in a capitalist system without any major changes.

For the brand of "socialism" that Chikor and Redmercury desire there would have to be pornographic amounts of bloodshed to a scope that would make Iron Felix blush, and that's before the internal purges that will happen when they discover people in their movement who said something racist on twitter once. Of course they would believe in a fully automated gay luxury space communism until it would be their turn to work the coal mines.

The reality of it is that during an actual social collapse, which is a requirement for social change, where people are destitute and support structures are gone and everyone is either working in their own personal gardens in between shifts at the factory farm, the reality of it is that all this faggy drag shit, furry shit, gender fluidity shit is going to disappear and anyone who elevate it over literally the need to "shut the fuck up and go to work so we don't starve" are going to be dragged out back by the Stalinists and shot.
 

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Imagine being this angry that a multinational corporation won’t give a meaningless statement in support of your cause. Even if that cause wasn’t killing babies this reaction would come across as highly deranged.

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Oh, I see the woke crowd is concerned about their employers restricting their freedoms of speech now. What happened to all the blue check marks telling everyone that a private company can restrict your speech as it pleases and you should just suck it up and take it?
 
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Anya15

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Imagine being this angry that a multinational corporation won’t give a meaningless statement in support of your cause. Even if that cause wasn’t killing babies this reaction would come across as highly deranged.

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Oh, I see the libtards are concerned about their employers restricting their freedoms of speech now. What happened to all the blue check marks telling everyone that a private company can restrict your speech as it pleases and you should just suck it up and take it?
What’s even dumber is all of this has happened because Bloomberg was asking why they pay jason schreier again?
 

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Dehumanizing Asia, Africa, and South America once again. RetardEra continues to be a bastion of white supremacist thought. I wouldn’t be surprised if Payton Gendron was a regular user. Especially since he also shared another one of RetardEra’s passions in furry culture.

Side note: it’s not even true that the a large majority of Americans support abortion. The majority support abortion in some cases but when asked for specifics Americans get much more cagey and hesitant. A recent poll showed that a majority of Americans weren’t even willing to support unrestricted abortion at 6 weeks. So it’s clearly a contentious issue, which justifies both Sony’s neutral stance as well as the impending Supreme Court decision.
 
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AirdropShitposts

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"It's been decided" including for the 79% of women who don't support abortion until birth with no restrictions:
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They're confusing the moderate and conservative position of most people not wanting to overturn Roe/Casey (which allow for abortion restrictions) for their extremist position on abortion.
 

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"It's been decided" including for the 79% of women who don't support abortion until birth with no restrictions:
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They're confusing the moderate and conservative position of most people not wanting to overturn Roe/Casey (which allow for abortion restrictions) for their extremist position on abortion.
Like always, there's only black and white and no grey. You either support abortion as a human right up to the point of birth (and sometimes after) or you support putting women in prison for murder. There's no nuance for activists.
 

Judge Dredd

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I see the woke crowd is concerned about their employers restricting their freedoms of speech now. What happened to all the blue check marks telling everyone that a private company can restrict your speech as it pleases and you should just suck it up and take it?
Even better, Sony bent over backwards to appease these people. Moving their HQ to California, strict censorship policies for sexual content, and censoring Japanese games at the source. They have the nickname Soyny for a reason.

Yet as has been proven time and again, it's never enough.
 

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Even better, Sony bent over backwards to appease these people. Moving their HQ to California, strict censorship policies for sexual content, and censoring Japanese games at the source. They have the nickname Soyny for a reason.

Yet as has been proven time and again, it's never enough.
Maybe one day companies will remember that catering to a small crowd of extremely loud crazy people online is not smart. But I guess for that to happen they’d first have to stop hiring those crazy people in influential positions.
 

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Like always, there's only black and white and no grey. You either support abortion as a human right up to the point of birth (and sometimes after) or you support putting women in prison for murder. There's no nuance for activists.
Almost none of them actually believe the shit they're saying though, which is why they're activists in name only purely for internet clout.

Maybe one day companies will remember that catering to a small crowd of extremely loud crazy people online is not smart. But I guess for that to happen they’d first have to stop hiring those crazy people in influential positions.
To be fair, most companies only cater to that crowd online on social media as a form of targeted advertising. The ridiculous shit these companies tweet out are rarely the same things they'll put on a bus stop ad. Unless that ad is on the campus of some dipshit university
 

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Almost none of them actually believe the shit they're saying though, which is why they're activists in name only purely for internet clout.


To be fair, most companies only cater to that crowd online on social media as a form of targeted advertising. The ridiculous shit these companies tweet out are rarely the same things they'll put on a bus stop ad. Unless that ad is on the campus of some dipshit university
I don’t know, last time I went to a Target the walls were all plastered with obese women in lingerie; and I live in a centrist city that was Republican just a decade ago.

But I work for a tech company, so I’ll concede that I’m probably more exposed to woke slacktivism than the average American.
 
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