Net Neutrality - crying faggots and the_donald go berserk

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Oh my god I cna't beliefe how offended I an at this post just i cant believe how you could tret the intenet as some kool kids klub only some autistic fuck from the alt right would thnk tht exclduing children, peple of colr, and bascaly anyon frm a pltform that was designed to be as open as possible is a good idea. god damn I wouldn't be surprised if some journal found that fucking autistic people are more likely to be right wing because autistic people DO NOT GIVE A FLYING FUCK ABOUT OTHER PEOPLE, JUST LIKE REPUBLICANS
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[inarticulate yelling intensifies]

I always wonder what idiots who post things like this think they're achieving. Gargling howls of rage never convinced anyone of anything, especially when they're actionable death threats.
Makes you wonder if that was part of the reason why Pajit wanted to kill off NN- So the idiots don't keep trying to make things worse for themselves.

Then again, I'm saying something rational about some political idiot's decision. Still, you are right about this not making the pro-NN crowd look any better.

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Where's the [DISGIGNATED SHITTING CORPSE]?

Also, watch as even MSNBC chimps out over the end of NN:
http://dailycaller.com/2017/12/14/m...rality-debate-with-former-fcc-chairman-video/
 

Jewelsmakerguy

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Wasn't NN a government solution to a problem that might happen but hadn't yet? That's the way I remember it from when it came to be two years ago, and I can't be bothered to research it beyond my own fuzzy recall.

Isn't one of the likely scenarios that...absolutely nothing will change?
Well, the internet was working sufficiently enough prior to NN, ISP hiccups aside.

The problem is that the repeal is supposedly set to make the stuff they did in the past legal. Which is part of the reason why people are flipping their shit over this. Unaware about the times it happened before, like with T-Moble and Skype. And honestly, I'm not all too thrilled that ISPs could potentially be allowed to break off sites into certain packages and make people pay more for their services. And it doesn't cull any fears that this could (not saying it will, but there's a high probability) affect other countries given how most servers of the largest websites like Google are in the US.
 

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Wasn't NN a government solution to a problem that might happen but hadn't yet? That's the way I remember it from when it came to be two years ago, and I can't be bothered to research it beyond my own fuzzy recall.

Isn't one of the likely scenarios that...absolutely nothing will change?
yes, pretty much. Comcast & friends might try to shake down Netflix for money to retain service quality because they can now threaten to throttle traffic of their services, but the end user experience will likely be exactly the same because Netflix will pay up. The thing is all the stuff people were upset about like throttling certain services was already happening (from mobile carriers, which suck) with the protections in place anyways because the protections were weak.

I doubt telecoms have any interest in making their consumers more unhappy than they already are. They aren't going to walled-garden the net because not being a walled garden is the net's appeal and how they make money on the side while cable TV continues to die. But demand payment from the corporate owners of services that use disproportionate amounts of traffic? Sure, why not. That's why Netflix is REEEEing about this, because they were doing it before the protections: https://qz.com/256586/the-inside-story-of-how-netflix-came-to-pay-comcast-for-internet-traffic/
 

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yes, pretty much. Comcast & friends might try to shake down Netflix for money to retain service quality because they can now threaten to throttle traffic of their services, but the end user experience will likely be exactly the same because Netflix will pay up.

And then their customers will pay up, because they'll raise their prices. All these guys will be glad to share the "freedom" with you by taking turns pounding your ass.
 

Jewelsmakerguy

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Isn't Netflix using something ungodly like a third of the US's bandwidth? I'm not sure it isn't appropriate for them to pony up.

You can probably tell, I'm not a Netflix customer.
In theory, yes. I personally wouldn't mind if they were taken down a notch too given how much bandwidth they're apparently sucking up.

The problem lies with the other sites. Like, no one's really sure how much Google, YouTube, Facebook and all those other sites eat, to say nothing about any other site that could be affected by this. There's still some concerns to be had, even if there won't anything too major without ISPs alienating much of their consumer base.
 

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And then their customers will pay up, because they'll raise their prices. All these guys will be glad to share the "freedom" with you by taking turns pounding your ass.
they've kind of been doing this already. bandwidth caps don't really affect most people outside of streaming services.

furthermore they're already selling 'packages' (like the meme that's circulating goes) by making caps that aren't garbage to require cable package deals.

The terms of the repeal does give them the ability to make their own competing products to netflix or make a deal with a competitor to where there's zero bandwidth used on your monthly total, but I find it odd people would be against that considering how fast netflix developed a near monopoly and then proceeded to stop giving a shit.

join me in pessimism! we're fucked no matter what!!
 
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they've kind of been doing this already. bandwidth caps don't really affect most people outside of streaming services.

furthermore they're already selling 'packages' like the meme that's circulating goes by making caps that aren't garbage requiring cable package deals.

This does give them the ability for them to make their own competing products to netflix or make a deal with a competitor to where there's zero bandwidth used on your monthly total, but I find it odd people would be against that considering how fast netflix developed a near monopoly and then proceeded to stop giving a shit.

join me in pessimism! we're fucked no matter what!!
Well Netflix hasn't developed a total monopoly, and still faces streaming companies like HBO.

This is anecdotal also, but considering stuff like foreign movies(and especially anime) have yet to be dubbed and some don't even have a subtitled option, most people that like both of those fucking despise it. There are niches that Netflix just refuses to fill, so I doubt they will form a total monopoly anytime soon. However, I could be very wrong, but see as more and more people are diversifying the way they watch and stream, I highly doubt a monopoly will form.
 

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Well Netflix hasn't developed a total monopoly, and still faces streaming companies like HBO.

This is anecdotal also, but considering stuff like foreign movies(and especially anime) have yet to be dubbed and some don't even have a subtitled option, most people that like both of those fucking despise it. There are niches that Netflix just refuses to fill, so I doubt they will form a total monopoly anytime soon. However, I could be very wrong, but see as more and more people are diversifying the way they watch and stream, I highly doubt a monopoly will form.
We are not the lowest common denominator by any stretch of the imagination. We have specific tastes and we're savvy enough to find other avenues of acquiring them.

Netflix is on every modern game console, is a built-in app on many smart devices, televisions, and so on, and they have kiosks across the country for those who prefer renting physical media (old fashioned).

They're sticking to a comfortable playing field where they can't ever be in violation of anti-trust, and instead rely on using their influence to keep competitors off the vast majority of smaller platforms.

It's not a true monopoly but it's pretty damn close.
 
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I'm in awe in the fact that he know's he's one of the most hated people on the internet and takes full advantage of it. Not liking him at all, just impressed by how little of a shit he gives of his own personal reputation.
He's literally being threaten sodomy and familicidal rape and murder. He'll still have that sausagey looking smile.
 
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