Wokeness ruining everything since whenever the hell it started.Black death. That's almost funny.
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Assuming wiki is correct, Cain and Abel are Pajeets:
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I am an old, but -- back in the 80s/90s, when I was traveling in goth/rocker circles, you did occasionally have chubby or even fat chicks. There weren't nearly as many fat people in general back then, though. And, those fat chicks actually put in the work, wearing makeup, with really nice clothing, hair done to a t, etc, and some actually looked pretty fucking hot, cause they gave a shit about their appearance, even if they couldn't lose the pounds. You did have some trashfires here and there, and it was expected to have at least a couple dumpy loser fat chicks in half-assed outfits sitting outside the goth clubs chainsmoking because they either couldn't get in the club or were too pooped to dance, but even the dumpier or chubbier chicks would go to great lengths to look nice. Goth is a very forgiving look if you do it right, black clothes and stylized makeup do wonders (just look at Japanese chicks, they got that shit down to a fucking science).
Gaiman's Death didn't start a look, it exemplified it, chicks were already looking like that in the late 80s, and when they saw the posters with Death on it, went HOLY SHIT IT'S ME! Look at Siouxsie Sioux -- that broad changed the style of hundreds of thousands of Gen X girls until the late 90s (and she deserves a medal for it). I look at photos of us in general from that period and compare them to 20-somethings now and it's like night and fucking day, people go out of their way to look like a bucket of ass now. Even the grunge kids looked cleaner. I'm seeing some glimmers of hope though, seeing teens in my neighborhood actually wearing decent clothes, running, having their hair done right. God please let there be hope.
EDIT apologies if this is a derail
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Gen Z in general seem more sensible than Milenials. Less woke, more based, less social media obsessed, caring more about their appearance...
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Yeah. There's enough good zoomers and loser zoomers that you can find evidence to support whichever preconception you have of the generation. But in general I get on better and have more in common with Zoomers I meet than millenials. Which is sad in that I feel a little marooned by my age, but good in that it gives me some hope for the future.
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They're never going to be able to get this to fly with fans if death isnt a cute goth chick. If somehow Kirby Howell-Baptiste pulls it off they might get away with it. I've seen black goths, Hell I dated one a few years back so I know it can be done but the casting choice doesnt feel like they can Pull of death with kirby, she's got the cheer but she hasnt got the look or the subtle gravitas.
Their's a lot of weird casting choices here luciens casting is weird and I'm unsure why they made cain and abel india subcontinent rather than arabic which would be the obvious race swap. It's pretty obvious a lot of these casting decisions are deliberate but a comiteee and neil should have produced something more calculated not to alienate unless neils a fucking idiot. Even morpheus looks miscast.
Their's a lot of weird casting choices here luciens casting is weird and I'm unsure why they made cain and abel india subcontinent rather than arabic which would be the obvious race swap. It's pretty obvious a lot of these casting decisions are deliberate but a comiteee and neil should have produced something more calculated not to alienate unless neils a fucking idiot. Even morpheus looks miscast.
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I saw a goth chick out in town this morning. Goth-lite but still goth. Looked around 17. Don't see many now but they're out there. In general, I would say current generation is less interested in cliques than back in the Eighties. You can see a goth chick hanging out just as happily with some mainstream girls it seems to me now, and they'll think her way of dressing is just as valid a look as anything else. Kids are more accepting these days.
Frankly, if they were going to race-change anyone it should be Cain and Abel who presumably would be African. But then maybe they're supposed to be mythological rather than the literal Cain and Abel, I don't know, in which case maybe they're supposed to conform to popular, European Christianity depictions. I don't know.
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Cain and Abel First appeared in a DC comic of Biblical stories, and they apparently are the same beings.
Picture Stories from the Bible Old Testament Vol 1 3 | DC Database | Fandom
"The Story of Creation":The synopsis for this issue has not yet been written. Picture Stories from the Bible Old Testament #3 is an issue of the series Picture Stories from the Bible Old Testament (Volume 1) published in 1943. 1 Synopsis for "The Story of Creation" 2 Appearing in "The Story of...
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Cain and Abel First appeared in a DC comic of Biblical stories, and they apparently are the same beings.
Picture Stories from the Bible Old Testament Vol 1 3 | DC Database | Fandom
"The Story of Creation":The synopsis for this issue has not yet been written. Picture Stories from the Bible Old Testament #3 is an issue of the series Picture Stories from the Bible Old Testament (Volume 1) published in 1943. 1 Synopsis for "The Story of Creation" 2 Appearing in "The Story of...dc.fandom.com
So they are intended to be the literal Cain and Abel. Meaning the two characters that actually should be African they've made not. Or in the DC universe did African people have White ancestors? Well, Indian based on rumoured casting, I guess. Oh, that latter one is going to be fun. Someone who isn't banned from Twitter should ask it.
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I dated a black goth chick for a few years in the mid-90s, and believe me, she would have roasted this fucking thing alive -- she was the one who taught me just how insufferable and infantilizing liberal race pandering really was.
You say that as if it's not a foregone conclusion
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They're the mythological Cain and Abel. They apparently had some independent existence before they became dreams, but they "didn't look remotely human back then." The versions inhabiting the Dreaming are the hosts from House of Mystery and House of Secrets.
If you wanted to use real world mythology, Cain and Abel is a Semitic myth--maybe inspired by Sumerian contest literature--and Eden was in Mesopotamia, so they'd be some variety of Middle Eastern.
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Okay, that's the sort of thing I was getting at. At first I thought they should be African (and they've been made Indian for some reason). But then I wondered what with all the dream / symbolism / myth stuff if maybe they were meant to be some kind of archetype rather than a real Cain and Abel. Seems like that's the case then. But if so, then they wouldn't be Indian as Cain and Abel isn't part of Indian mythology. Thanks for the info.
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