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Those fat dudes usually have additional characteristics which are not included in those stories. Also, anecdotes do not disprove shit.
Additional characteristics? Almost like people can make up for not being as physically attractive by having other good things about them, such as being charming?
 
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Additional characteristics? Almost like people can make up for not being as physically attractive by having other good things about them, such as being charming?
Define "charming". In the last 20 years or so, words like "charm", "wit", "charisma" and "personality" have been cannibalized to mean absolutely nothing at all, so it pays to know what you mean by using this word.
 

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Define "charming". In the last 20 years or so, words like "charm", "wit", "charisma" and "personality" have been cannibalized to mean absolutely nothing at all, so it pays to know what you mean by using this word.
It means not being a sperg, having actual social skills, and not losing your goddamn mind every time a person rejects you or doesn't text you back in less than two minutes.

Simple stuff, really.
 

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It means not being a sperg, having actual social skills, and not losing your goddamn mind every time a person rejects you or doesn't text you back in less than two minutes.

Simple stuff, really.
To be more specific, I think having actual interests and things to discuss (that girls actually care about, not vidya, anime, and philosophy), as well as being able to compliment women naturally without coming off creepy are huge factors.

OF COURSE being attractive or rich is a magic cure-all that helps a ton. But the mistake that incels and the like make is thinking that base physical attractiveness is all that matters, and using that as an excuse to refuse to improve themselves. If a girl rejects them, it’s only because of looks, cause there’s no way a girl would reject someone as “nice” as them otherwise.
 
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It means not being a sperg, having actual social skills, and not losing your goddamn mind every time a person rejects you or doesn't text you back in less than two minutes.

Simple stuff, really.
Isn't it called "being well-adjusted"? If that's the new definition of the word "charming" - okay then.

To be more specific, I think having actual interests and things to discuss (that girls actually care about, not vidya, anime, and philosophy), as well as being able to compliment women naturally without coming off creepy are huge factors.
So feigning interest in something that might not be interesting to the feignee is the definition of "charming"? Isn't it what lands them in this and a few other communities in the first place? "He feigned interest in stuff I was interested in just to get into my pants! REEEEE".


coming off creepy.
Ooh, another lovely word. Define "creepy" please.
 

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The symptoms of autism manifest differently between boys and girls. The old statistic is 4 boys:1 girl have autism. With a better understanding, it just seems girls are more empathetic and better at reading social cues than boys hence a lower diagnosis rate. Being a nice guy is directly related to autism so that’s why there’s more nice guys than girls. I’ve seen girls whine on social media also about being rejected (because I rejected them) but you get your ass if they said anything as embarrassing as a nice guy I’d share it.
 

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The symptoms of autism manifest differently between boys and girls. The old statistic is 4 boys:1 girl have autism. With a better understanding, it just seems girls are more empathetic and better at reading social cues than boys hence a lower diagnosis rate. Being a nice guy is directly related to autism so that’s why there’s more nice guys than girls.

Not sure that 'tism is what drives them to sperg out. 'tism is a spectrum after all. Combination of their character, upbringing and the generalized frustration is more likely.
 

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Isn't it called "being well-adjusted"? If that's the new definition of the word "charming" - okay then.
Yeah, the thing is that niceguys and incels have lowered the bar so much that this is really all it takes. And yet they still find a way to fuck it all up.

(that girls actually care about, not vidya, anime, and philosophy)
Hell, you can even find women with interests like that. In this day and age, finding a girl into "nerdy" shit like that isn't hard at all.
 
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Yeah, the thing is that niceguys and incels have lowered the bar so much that this is really all it takes. And yet they still find a way to fuck it all up.
Does it really all it take though? Isn't being well-adjusted a baseline minimum?


its always autism. where on the spectrum do you fall?
Baby, spectrum's not enough for that.
 

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Does it really all it takes though? Isn't being well-adjusted a baseline minimum?
Yeah. Just walk up, strike up a nice, normal conversation, don't talk about sex, be polite and considerate, and if all goes well, then good job. If not, then oh well. Move on. If she just wants to be friends, that's also fine. It's good to make friends.
 
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Yeah. Just walk up, strike up a nice, normal conversation, don't about sex, be polite and considerate, and if all goes well, then good job. If not, then oh well. Move on. If she just wants to be friends, that's also fine. It's good to make friends.
Yeah, that's how you get friends (maybe). Spergtards and incels are torn between sexual frustration and loneliness. These advices will not and do not help, you're operating under the assumption that they're baseline well-adjusted.
 

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Yeah, that's how you get friends (maybe). Spergtards and incels are torn between sexual frustration and loneliness. These advices will not and do not help, you're operating under the assumption that they're baseline well-adjusted.
Well shit, maybe they should work on getting baseline well-adjusted then. Making friends that aren't spergtards or incels could help out with that.
 

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Yeah, that's how you get friends (maybe). Spergtards and incels are torn between sexual frustration and loneliness.
You've hit the nail on the head there, these people consistently fuck up personal friendships with the few women that do interact with them (often the geeky chicks you tend to find in nerdy hobbies). Because they can't understand that sometimes having a good friend is much better than having a partner, probably because they've had neither.
Making friends that aren't spergtards or incels could help out with that.
If half these people got the motivation to get a fresh start and reinvent themselves, find non spergy friends and learn not to be jealous of those more accomplished than themselves (even if it is pretty basic social achievements) then I'd say most of their problems would be fixed in under a week.
 

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Isn't it called "being well-adjusted"? If that's the new definition of the word "charming" - okay then.



So feigning interest in something that might not be interesting to the feignee is the definition of "charming"? Isn't it what lands them in this and a few other communities in the first place? "He feigned interest in stuff I was interested in just to get into my pants! REEEEE".




Ooh, another lovely word. Define "creepy" please.
No, feigning interests in shit hardly ever gets you anywhere. Maybe you can pull it off for a night, but never long term. The fact you think any guy interested in stuff other than neet bullshit has to be faking it says more about you than you think.

Girls like guys who do interesting things. I have a friend who does rock climbing, and girls love that and are excited to hear about it.

Of course what is “creepy” changes from person to person. It also depends on how attractive the guy saying it is. But part of being “charming” is being able to use social skills to find out where that line is in any specific conversation.
 

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No, feigning interests in shit hardly ever gets you anywhere. Maybe you can pull it off for a night, but never long term. The fact you think any guy interested in stuff other than neet bullshit has to be faking it says more about you than you think.

Girls like guys who do interesting things. I have a friend who does rock climbing, and girls love that and are excited to hear about it.

Of course what is “creepy” changes from person to person. It also depends on how attractive the guy saying it is. But part of being “charming” is being able to use social skills to find out where that line is in any specific conversation.
I find being funny is a big help, you can be overweight or fuck ugly but being socially competent and witty will make most people quite happy to give you their time of day, again its all really fucking basic that most people pick up in their teens.
 
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