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Does it really all it takes though? Isn't being well-adjusted a baseline minimum?
Yeah. Just walk up, strike up a nice, normal conversation, don't talk about sex, be polite and considerate, and if all goes well, then good job. If not, then oh well. Move on. If she just wants to be friends, that's also fine. It's good to make friends.
 
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NotSendingTheirBest

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Yeah. Just walk up, strike up a nice, normal conversation, don't about sex, be polite and considerate, and if all goes well, then good job. If not, then oh well. Move on. If she just wants to be friends, that's also fine. It's good to make friends.
Yeah, that's how you get friends (maybe). Spergtards and incels are torn between sexual frustration and loneliness. These advices will not and do not help, you're operating under the assumption that they're baseline well-adjusted.
 

Bunny Tracks

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Yeah, that's how you get friends (maybe). Spergtards and incels are torn between sexual frustration and loneliness. These advices will not and do not help, you're operating under the assumption that they're baseline well-adjusted.
Well shit, maybe they should work on getting baseline well-adjusted then. Making friends that aren't spergtards or incels could help out with that.
 

Easterling

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Yeah, that's how you get friends (maybe). Spergtards and incels are torn between sexual frustration and loneliness.
You've hit the nail on the head there, these people consistently fuck up personal friendships with the few women that do interact with them (often the geeky chicks you tend to find in nerdy hobbies). Because they can't understand that sometimes having a good friend is much better than having a partner, probably because they've had neither.
Making friends that aren't spergtards or incels could help out with that.
If half these people got the motivation to get a fresh start and reinvent themselves, find non spergy friends and learn not to be jealous of those more accomplished than themselves (even if it is pretty basic social achievements) then I'd say most of their problems would be fixed in under a week.
 

Rebis

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Isn't it called "being well-adjusted"? If that's the new definition of the word "charming" - okay then.



So feigning interest in something that might not be interesting to the feignee is the definition of "charming"? Isn't it what lands them in this and a few other communities in the first place? "He feigned interest in stuff I was interested in just to get into my pants! REEEEE".




Ooh, another lovely word. Define "creepy" please.
No, feigning interests in shit hardly ever gets you anywhere. Maybe you can pull it off for a night, but never long term. The fact you think any guy interested in stuff other than neet bullshit has to be faking it says more about you than you think.

Girls like guys who do interesting things. I have a friend who does rock climbing, and girls love that and are excited to hear about it.

Of course what is “creepy” changes from person to person. It also depends on how attractive the guy saying it is. But part of being “charming” is being able to use social skills to find out where that line is in any specific conversation.
 

Easterling

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No, feigning interests in shit hardly ever gets you anywhere. Maybe you can pull it off for a night, but never long term. The fact you think any guy interested in stuff other than neet bullshit has to be faking it says more about you than you think.

Girls like guys who do interesting things. I have a friend who does rock climbing, and girls love that and are excited to hear about it.

Of course what is “creepy” changes from person to person. It also depends on how attractive the guy saying it is. But part of being “charming” is being able to use social skills to find out where that line is in any specific conversation.
I find being funny is a big help, you can be overweight or fuck ugly but being socially competent and witty will make most people quite happy to give you their time of day, again its all really fucking basic that most people pick up in their teens.
 

NotSendingTheirBest

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No, feigning interests in shit hardly ever gets you anywhere. Maybe you can pull it off for a night, but never long term. The fact you think any guy interested in stuff other than neet bullshit has to be faking it says more about you than you think.
That message didn't contain anything that suggests that "guys fake being interested in anything beyond neet bullshit". Let's see the quote that prompted that message.


(that girls actually care about, not vidya, anime, and philosophy)

Stop sniffing glue and proofread before posting.


Girls like guys who do interesting things. I have a friend who does rock climbing, and girls love that and are excited to hear about it.
Generalized statements are the logical cancer of the Universe but since we're operating on that level - girls, majorily, like something that is either en vogue or is "classically masculine" to an extent.

Having a niche interest that isn't "neet bullshit" may still be viewed as "neet bullshit".


Of course what is “creepy” changes from person to person.
Then the word has no meaning.
 

scorptatious

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That message didn't contain anything that suggests that "guys fake being interested in anything beyond neet bullshit".





Stop sniffing glue and proofread before posting.




Generalized statements are the logical cancer of the Universe but since we're operating on that level - girls, majorily, like something that is either en vogue or is "classically masculine" to an extent.

Having a niche interest that isn't "neet bullshit" may still be viewed as "neet bullshit".




Then the word has no meaning.
Yeah it does. It’s the feeling that you get from someone who is proving themselves to be a potential threat. Lot of different ways someone can come off as creepy. Hence why “creepy” can change from person to person.
 
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NotSendingTheirBest

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Yeah it does. It’s the feeling that you get from someone who is proving themselves to be a potential threat. Lot of different ways someone can come off as creepy. Hence why “creepy” can change from person to person.
What happened to the words "this person makes me uncomfortable"? Creepy is so diluted, it cannot be an effective shorthand for expression of that.
 

scorptatious

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What happened to the words "this person makes me uncomfortable"? Creepy is so diluted, it cannot be an effective shorthand for expression of that.
You’re arguing semantics. Bottom line, just don’t be a dick, relax, and don’t overthink things. Then you won’t come off as creepy.

Edit: But yeah, I feel a big problem with nice guys is that they overthink and assume things. If more of them just took a deep breath and just relax a bit, maybe they’d have an easier time finding girls.
 

NotSendingTheirBest

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Bottom line, just don’t be a dick, relax, and don’t overthink things.
And herein lies the rub. Spergtards and incels need a precise explanation as to how not to behave themselves. Adjusted people operate with these vague notions of "not being a dick", "not being creepy" and those feel-good bullshit phrases that make total sense to people who had a good/average parenting and who aren't completely exceptional.

Until you explain and quantify that, the ranks of "nice guys" (what an awful term) will be extremely populated. But I guess, more drama tard cum and "gentlemanly" sperging, eh?


But yeah, I feel a big problem with nice guys is that they overthink and assume things. If more of them just took a deep breath and just relax a bit, maybe they’d have an easier time finding girls.
And here it is again. Be glad that your childhood was as it was. lel
 

FierceBrosnan

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You’re arguing semantics. Bottom line, just don’t be a dick, relax, and don’t overthink things. Then you won’t come off as creepy.
On top of that if things don't work out then don't worry about it. Rejection hurts, believe me I've been rejected more time than I've sent unsolicited dick pics, and it does wear on you after so many times. But worrying about it and/or letting it ruin your perception of whatever sex you're trying to get in the pants of will ultimately only make you miserable.

Keep swinging the bat you'll hit a home run eventually, and get better at it.

And herein lies the rub. Spergtards and incels need a precise explanation as to how not to behave themselves. Adjusted people operate with these vague notions of "not being a dick", "not being creepy" and those feel-good bullshit phrases that make total sense to people who had a good/average parenting and who aren't completely exceptional.

Until you explain and quantify that, the ranks of "nice guys" (what an awful term) will be extremely populated. But I guess, more drama tard cum and "gentlemanly" sperging, eh?
I'd say roll through the earlier pages of the thread for some primo examples of "how not to be".

We really need to make a flowchart of what constitutes Rapey McCreeper status and what is just really really bad luck with dating.
 

NotSendingTheirBest

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I'd say roll through the earlier pages of the thread for some primo examples of "how not to be".

We really need to make a flowchart of what constitutes Rapey McCreeper status and what is just really really bad luck with dating.
Read it all, besides, it's not like kiwis have a monopoly on spergchronicles, even it's the prime source on the Internet atm.

A flowchart would be insufficient tbh but then again, only similarly exceptional individuals will ever have time to construct it and we all know that you shouldn't ask the fish how to catch it.
 

FierceBrosnan

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Read it all, besides, it's not like kiwis have a monopoly on spergchronicles, even it's the prime source on the Internet atm.

A flowchart would be insufficient tbh but then again, only similarly exceptional individuals will ever have time to construct it and we all know that you shouldn't ask the fish how to catch it.
That's why I fish as my ancestors did, with dynamite. That's also why most of my dates end in chili.
 

Rebis

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And herein lies the rub. Spergtards and incels need a precise explanation as to how not to behave themselves. Adjusted people operate with these vague notions of "not being a dick", "not being creepy" and those feel-good bullshit phrases that make total sense to people who had a good/average parenting and who aren't completely exceptional.

Until you explain and quantify that, the ranks of "nice guys" (what an awful term) will be extremely populated. But I guess, more drama tard cum and "gentlemanly" sperging, eh?




And here it is again. Be glad that your childhood was as it was. lel
Well that’s the dilemma. You simply can’t just lay out strict rules for how to socially interact. Socializing isn’t a video game and it isn’t a program where everything follows 100% clear-cut rules. There are general guidelines, but each one has a billion exceptions, and the more you overthink it and try to sort out hard rules for social interaction, the more you come off as weird.

I think we all have some sympathy for people who are literally autistic and whose brains just can’t grasp social cues, but what can you do about it?
 

NotSendingTheirBest

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Well that’s the dilemma. You simply can’t just lay out strict rules for how to socially interact. Socializing isn’t a video game and it isn’t a program where everything follows 100% clear-cut rules. There are general guidelines, but each one has a billion exceptions, and the more you overthink it and try to sort out hard rules for social interaction, the more you come off as weird.

I think we all have some sympathy for people who are literally autistic and whose brains just can’t grasp social cues, but what can you do about it?

Be honest with the intelligent and introspective and mocking the willfully obtuse.

For instance, not every sperg who this thread and the incel thread screencaps are spergs because they're shit humans. This is not an excuse for what they did but isolation, shit homes and shit people can erode a person until he's nothing but a screeching husk of hatred and pain.
 

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