NoraReed / Nora Fleck / Nora Reed Heineman-Fleck, Sugar Daddy John Fleck, and the Norasphere - The neverending fuck-ups of a sadistic thumb, codependent dad and tons of white knights

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Jaimas

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Except she's not - she has almost five times the followers Requires Hate does and regularly gets 100 likes a tweet.

Considering her bot efforts I wouldn't be surprised if a few of her followers are fake, but she's getting engagement that suggests most of them aren't. So perhaps her lowered profile (she's unprotected her account now) has helped her regain some influence.

They have numerous similarities, but Nora isn't like Lynn Montello in the weeb wars, steadily driving away everyone she shares a side with. Nora's toxicity is more palatable and less about being literally insane. She's fostered an audience that seem to enjoy her antagonistic bleating.

I wonder if she's found another forum like Metafilter to force herself onto. She'd certainly fit in well with ResetEra or Something Awful. But the numbers are coming from somewhere. So her voice must be getting amplified in some fashion, even if only artificially.
Nora is an interesting beast that is a perfect documentation of the failure of Twitter moderation. She's been banned dozens of times and she's always allowed back because there's shitheads in Twitter's staff that like her. What's interesting is that her engagement is the telling part; almost all of her posts that go near or above her coveted triple-digit likes are her responding to people and riding their feeds - person of interest X says thing Y, Nora latches on and responds with statement Z to bait likes.

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If you look at the above comment chain, for example, you will notice she got one post with very high engagement, one with less than a third of that, and one with about half of that. All of her posts are like this when it comes to response posts, which are easily her most common form of content. When Nora makes single posts, she specifically appeals to her own shitty audience if she wants to reach above double digits, mostly by going on about how gay and mentally ill she is. This speaks volumes more about the echo-chamber she dwells in than it does Nora herself.

The followers of Nora broadly fall into four categories: The first are dipshit Norasphere orbiters like Requires Hate and Zinnia Jones. You know them, you ridicule them, we have threads on each one. The second are your average braindead hard-leftie Twitter users that follows her because she repeats the party line hard enough (which is how she got into Anti-GG's good graces, interestingly enough). The third are casual fans, who laconically like Nora's stuff when the chance arrives for them to react to it. The fourth are trolls like us.
 

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Golly gee - who would have thought that wearing dresses and makeup, while having bobs and vagene, would give people the impression that you're A WOMAN? Quick - someone notify Becky Gerber!

"I'm a woman in a relationship with a man, but i'm totes queer, y'all!"

Nevermind - it's clear that Human Thumb has peeked into Becky's (and Tess Holliday's) playbook.
Weren't Nora and Becky Twitter buddies when we first discovered them? Did that change, and if so, why?
 

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Nora hates her own bot, or at least its audience

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So what is up with the screambot audience? Well, Nora started using "abolish the police" as the bot's display name, specifically to rile folks:

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Such is the Nora cycle. First she targets people, then she complains about the blowback, then she slinks back into NEET stupor, getting high on her own farts and spazzing out over popular entertainment.

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Weren't Nora and Becky Twitter buddies when we first discovered them? Did that change, and if so, why?
I don't recall, but if they were I doubt they still are. There's no room for two people to be the most oppressed, one would get offended by the other over an imagined slight - or an actual cunt move, to be fair, as they are both blithely horrible - and then it's all over.

The most pathetic answer, the one that is absolutely the saddest thing imaginable, would be if it was because Jake Alley stopped imprinting on Nora and started imprinting on Becky. Because jealousy over Jake is the most retarded thing I can think of. Which means it's likely to be true.
 

Chan the Wizard

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I don’t recall if Becky and Nora ever interacted, though they share significant follower overlap.
I was following Nora’s liberal complaints about her spam bot followers earlier. I came to the conclusion that Nora should just kill herself already. Such a miserable, angry cunt. She’s also upped her abusive mom tweets. The abuse seems to amount to her wanting grandkids and a healthy relationship with her dimwitted, workshy daughter.
 

kaien

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I don't recall, but if they were I doubt they still are. There's no room for two people to be the most oppressed, one would get offended by the other over an imagined slight - or an actual cunt move, to be fair, as they are both blithely horrible - and then it's all over.
They do still interact, as recently as last October, but they don't seem to have a strong personal relationship one way or the other. They just happen to both cunt up some of the same spheres of twitter.
 

Jaimas

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Nora hates her own bot, or at least its audience

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So what is up with the screambot audience? Well, Nora started using "abolish the police" as the bot's display name, specifically to rile folks:

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Such is the Nora cycle. First she targets people, then she complains about the blowback, then she slinks back into NEET stupor, getting high on her own farts and spazzing out over popular entertainment.

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This an interesting microcosm of Nora right here, because it's a rare look at the tail end of Nora's popularity arcs. She waxes when she rides a trend (as she did during Anti-GG, or when she rides her bots' stardom), only for her to be her usual, charming self and alienate basically everyone, even people she's had zero issue with for years. While historically, this has been a way she keeps her rabble in line, it's also a major exploitable vulnerability she's had, since a lot of the circles she's had pull in do not take kindly to this kind of shit.

Interestingly, there's a lot of evidence to suggest that this behavior is not unique to Nora's online interactions. If you think back to #3 on the JPATG bottom ten, Patriarchy Simulator 2000, a "game" that was so bad that I wound up reviewing a Touhou Game and pretending that was the game instead, there was a segment where I said the game had no redeeming features other than it being a window into Nora's insane mindset, and here's where that comes home to roost.

Throughout her "game" (which is basically a Powerpoint presentation, only impossibly less entertaining and interactive), there are moments when Nora just seemingly at random, for the tiniest possible slights, turns on people who were historically friends of hers, either for shit that's so trivial as to be a write-off or because of some issue she just steadfastly refuses to give ground on for some reason, and you get the feeling from this, assuming her admissions are true, that she will ultimately destroy any relationship she has over these, be they personal, romantic, or friendship. If you don't move completely in lockstep with her, she has no time for you, and if it means cutting off a friend she's known for years to do it, that's just a sacrifice she's willing to make.

What's fascinating (to me, at least) is that we've seen this behavior with other lolcows - perhaps none better known than Chloe Sagal. They're hardly fully analogous, of course; Sagal's suicide was a tragedy whereas I suspect many on the Farms would see Nora offing herself as cause for celebration, since Reed's entire existence has been defined by being a cunt to people for no reason. But it's that same propensity to self-sabotage, to see the worst in every situation, to see every word as concealing hidden venom and fearing any associate secretly harbors thoughts you disapprove of - that I feel may bring us to the most darkly informative part of Nora's arc.

Eventually, Nora's brief bit of relevance will fade, even on Twitter. She's not got the same reach she had at her peak and her bubble is continually shrinking, bit by bit, as paradigms change and the world moves on. Professional victimhood has an expiration date, and Nora will eventually be forced to adapt to the ecosystem or abandon it entirely, which, given how she handles change, will probably not go anywhere near as well as she hopes it will. She might be able to maintain an audience more than some, but even the biggest, most influential of her ilk has started to suffer the inevitable influence decay that comes with that career path.

We'll be watching, of course. But I'd be very interested to hear any other Kiwis' thoughts on the matter.
 

flight of ideas

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Professional victimhood has an expiration date, and Nora will eventually be forced to adapt to the ecosystem or abandon it entirely, which, given how she handles change, will probably not go anywhere near as well as she hopes it will. She might be able to maintain an audience more than some, but even the biggest, most influential of her ilk has started to suffer the inevitable influence decay that comes with that career path.
i haven’t commented on nora before, only observed, but i think you’ve made an important point here. furthermore: nora, like all of us, is only getting older. there’s a hard time limit on the tolerability of her style of behavior, especially by apparently cisgendered, apparently heterosexual women, which is what nora is despite her vehement protestations to the contrary.

(it continues to baffle my old-ass mind that these newfags don’t recognize that if gender is a “social” construct that means it matters what *other* people see and think as much as what *you* present, we are in this nightmare together you dumb fucks)

so as i say nora, for all intents and porpoises a heterosexual white woman in a relationship with a man, appears to be maturing into a Dreaded Karen. and she probably wonders why that is. girl, get a holiday-themed latte and read the room.
 

Jaimas

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i haven’t commented on nora before, only observed, but i think you’ve made an important point here. furthermore: nora, like all of us, is only getting older. there’s a hard time limit on the tolerability of her style of behavior, especially by apparently cisgendered, apparently heterosexual women, which is what nora is despite her vehement protestations to the contrary.

(it continues to baffle my old-ass mind that these newfags don’t recognize that if gender is a “social” construct that means it matters what *other* people see and think as much as what *you* present, we are in this nightmare together you dumb fucks)

so as i say nora, for all intents and porpoises a heterosexual white woman in a relationship with a man, appears to be maturing into a Dreaded Karen. and she probably wonders why that is. girl, get a holiday-themed latte and read the room.
I think that's far too kind an analysis of Nora's end point.

Karens are the soccer-mom types, and are hallmarked by the fact that they have a family, even though as a whole they're assholes whose business is everyone else's business, as a sort of compensation mechanism. Nora will never be a Karen because Nora had a hysterectomy and has shown zero desire whatsoever to have a family of any kind, or any real relationship.

What Nora's going to ultimately become something similar to what Jim once called a "Dead Egg," and while I don't think the term fully applies to where Nora's headed, there's enough similarities to make the comparison. To use Jim's parlance on the subject, A Dead Egg is someone who purposefully avoided having children, starting a family, or doing anything that would create a lasting legacy. Their choices have ultimately, made them suffer for them, and, rather than improve their lot, they adopt a seething, knee-jerk hatred for everyone and everything, but particularly couples demonstrating affection and small children, which both represent what they can never have. In general, they tend to be much more bitter, visceral, and active than your average Karen, or so he claims.

There's a few ways the moniker doesn't fully apply to Nora, not the least of which being that Nora has (or claims to have) her lovefriend/kissfriend or whatever she calls it, and may very well exhibit vastly different offline behavior than on (she wouldn't be the first cow we cover to do that) in the possibility that she could act somewhat-more-normal offline. The main reason the moniker absolutely applies is that she already shows hostility towards people who have it better than her, and has had a hysterectomy, so she's already completely incapable of having children. When it comes to other ways of securing her legacy, she mostly shows resentment for the things that got her popularity in the first place, and her aforementioned tendency to alienate people for seemingly trivial reasons is already well-established. She doesn't really have much of a future outside the online outrage machine, and I think, on some level, she knows that.

In the end, we can safely assume that Nora's future will be bitter, miserable, and filled with resentment towards others, much as it is now.
 
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I think that's far too kind an analysis of Nora's end point.

Karens are the soccer-mom types, and are hallmarked by the fact that they have a family, even though as a whole they're assholes whose business is everyone else's business, as a sort of compensation mechanism. Nora will never be a Karen because Nora had a hysterectomy and has shown zero desire whatsoever to have a family of any kind, or any real relationship.

What Nora's going to ultimately become is a Dead Egg.

If you're not familiar with this term, it's a relatively new arrival, though people like it have been around for ages. A Dead Egg is someone who purposefully avoided having children, starting a family, or doing anything that would create a lasting legacy. Their choices have ultimately, made them suffer for them, and, rather than improve their lot, they adopt a seething, knee-jerk hatred for everyone and everything, but particularly couples demonstrating affection and small children, which both represent what they can never have.

While Nora has a Lovefriend/Kissfriend (because god forbid her relationship ever be perceived as "normal"), she has basically nothing else and she's already got one of the common traits of the Dead Egg in that she frequently whines about happy couples and especially happy straight couples. She's also given up entirely on her femininity in claiming to be a gendereless special blob, though I wouldn't be surprised if that part of her persona is just that: Bullshit.

As time goes on and the misery of her existence sets in, I find it far more likely that her bitterness, resentment, and complete incapacity to deal with people will ultimately isolate her further and drive her to further bitterness. One way or another, she'll enter a hell of her own making, and no one deserves it more than Nora.

bruh

that video is retärded are u high right now
 

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bruh

that video is retärded are u high right now
Is the word-filter back on?

I didn't watch the video, but Nora's hatred is a fairly common SJW type of hatred, where they've defined themselves as being outside the norm, and therefore hate everything they regard as the norm. They're the sort that think of themselves and their few friends/allies as being the few true good people in a country of monsters, and are defined by their paranoid narcissism (everyone thinks about them enough to hate them for no possible reason other than bigotry) and their selfish myopia (if they love something popular, they love it better and more purely than everyone else; if they don't love something, then no one else should have it, let alone like it).

These are the people who think the US is worse than China or most African countries in terms of human rights, because their persecution is worse than anyone else's even though that means seeing the word 'bitch' is regarded as worse than FGM and slavery. They're the ones who thought themselves special for loving Harry Potter, a global sensation, and then mourned losing it when JK Rowling became too 'problematic' in their eyes, before acting like it was always terrible and anyone who likes it is terrible, even though that includes them up until very recently. These are the people like Nora, and Jake Alley, and Becky Gerber, who live their lives as a Fundamental Attribution Error - they make honest mistakes, or get a pass for mental illness, or are trying their best; you suddenly reveal your true self, never deserve the benefit of the doubt, and eternally act out of malice rather than mistake.

So while aspects of the Dead Egg theory as described applies to Nora and her ilk, it's not as simple as hating happy families, though they're part of it. They hate anyone who isn't a zealot like them, who doesn't acknowledge the superiority of their way of life, or even laud them for their bravery in being so different. Nora claims to want to normalise everything she does while always making a big fucking deal over every aspect of her life she thinks makes her stand out. That these people are inevitably super-basic bitches with basic tastes desperately trying to seem special while projecting their rage and paranoia onto everyone else is pretty self-evident. Whether with no partners or several, they constantly remind us how miserable they are and then try and make everyone around them just the same way.

They're black holes of Cluster B damage. The best solution is to laugh at them, then forget about them until it's time to laugh at them again. The best part about them is that they're usually never going to have kids, because those poor children will have horror stories if they survive growing up with such a parent.
 

Chan the Wizard

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I didn’t watch the video, so I’m just going by descriptions here
But Nora really did get her uterus removed just spite her mom. She’s tweeted that. She’ll also claim it caused her pain, but she admits part of her reasoning is her mom wanted grandkids and consider it abuse to ask her about the possibility, so had her uterus removed to stop the questions.
I think it’s probably her primary reason. This is the same woman who thinks her back pain is from a few months working at a bookstore and not because she’s morbidly obese and doesn’t exercise.
 

lecher

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Nora is first cow so I'm interested in her misfortunes even if it is like watching mold grow. And it is a lot like watching mold grow, Nora is like decay become flesh. Only in her early thirties and she's already wasted what little life bestowed on her in the way of youthful charm, energy, and strength. Not that any of it amounted to much, but still.

Nora has a pathological fear of anything or anyone she can't control. People with agency and interests of their own, the outside world in general, these are things that make her feel threatened. So she spends her days (weeks, months, years, decades) inside, hurling abuse at people online for making her feel threatened, which ends up makes her feel even more threatened, and there you have the Nora cycle.

Like @Jaimas I think Nora is fated for a long, slow decline into diabesitas. But you know what? I think she'll enjoy it. She'll take her gangrened leg and hold it up as proof of the evils of patriarchy, and how she never stood a chance, and how there was nothing she could do. It just doesn't seem a lot of people will be listening.

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Listen to this adult woman using the word "nuggies" in a serious context.

Based on Nora's thumb-like body, she's been obviously eating "nuggies" for pleasure.
She sounds like Homer Simpson in the episode where he becomes so lazy he becomes bed-ridden in elder care.

There's numerous charitable ways to interpret it, but it's Nora. The funniest and most accurate read is that she's so lazy she hates performing a single physical task that she doesn't want to do, and resents that she has to even think about what's good for her when choosing what to stuff her face with.

She will, of course, also be well aware of the most successful way to escape her fleshy confines, but even Hell doesn't have Twitter, slash fiction and Overwatch.
 

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