World North Korea Megathread - Dear Leader and his shenanigans

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BONE_Buddy

That Defense Sperg.
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GOD DAMNIT.

Pyongyang launches 2 probable missiles
http://koreajoongangdaily.joins.com/news/article/article.aspx?aid=3062898&cloc=joongangdaily|home|top

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Korea JongAng Daily said:
North Korea launched two projectiles believed to be ballistic missiles from a site on its western coast Thursday afternoon, according to South Korean military authorities.

According to Seoul’s Joint Chiefs of Staff, the North fired two rockets believed to be short-range missiles from a site in Kusong, North Pyongan Province, at 4:29 p.m. and 4:49 p.m., which flew approximately 420 kilometers (261 miles) and 270 kilometers respectively in an eastern direction into the East Sea. The altitude was 50 kilometers for both.

An earlier statement by the South’s military said the launches had been made from a base in Sino-ri, only miles from its recently restored Sohae Satellite Launching Station in Tongchang-ri.

As of press time, it was not known exactly what type of rocket was fired, and the South’s military said it was trying to verify the facts with the United States. According to Kyodo News, Japan’s Defense Ministry said Thursday that the projectiles had not reached Tokyo’s territorial waters and did not directly affect its security.

The South Korean military’s assessment that the projectiles were ballistic missiles - a classification that it has avoided making for a test conducted last Saturday - may be based on the fact that they were fired from near the west coast in the direction of the East Sea, possibly going across the entire country.

The Blue House on Thursday expressed “grave concern” about the launches, saying they did not help alleviate military tension on the Korean Peninsula. South Korean President Moon Jae-in was due to make a live public address Thursday evening in commemoration of his second year in office.

In addition, Seoul may produce a joint statement with Japan and the United States reacting to the launches since top diplomatic and security officials were in consultation in Seoul when the North made its surprise launch on Thursday.

The launch came only five days after Pyongyang fired a host of projectiles from a base near Wonsan, Kangwon Province, on its eastern coast last Saturday that included what the U.S. Department of Defense on Wednesday labeled a “rocket and missile.”

Sino-ri is believed to house a regiment-sized military base equipped with Rodong-1 medium-range ballistic missiles (MRBM), identified last January through satellite footage by experts at Beyond Parallel, a program of the U.S.-based Center for Strategic and International Studies (CSIS).

The experts called the base there “one of the oldest of approximately 20 undeclared missile operating bases” in the country, which apparently serves as a key site from which Pyongyang would, in the event of war, exercise nuclear or conventional first-strike capabilities at targets across the peninsula.

Rodong-1, also known as the Hwasong-7, missiles are ballistic weapons that the North developed in the mid-1980s as an adaptation of the Soviet Union’s so-called Scud missiles. According to a U.S. government estimate from 2006, Pyongyang is believed to own around 200 of these weapons, some of which have a range of about 1,200 to 1,500 kilometers - enough to target all of Japan.

If the projectiles fired Thursday were ballistic missiles, the North may have dialed up its provocations far beyond the level it displayed last week, which prompted alarm but also tolerant reactions from Seoul and Washington. That good will, however, may have gone up in flames with this latest launch.
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US Seizes N. Korean Vessel for Violating Sanctions
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VOA News said:
U.S. authorities have seized a North Korean cargo vessel for allegedly violating U.S. and U.N. sanctions by transporting coal from the east Asian country.

The Justice Department's National Security Division said in a statement Thursday the ship was approaching U.S. territorial waters after it was first confiscated in April 2018 by foreign maritime authorities in Indonesia.

"This sanctions-busting ship is now out of service," said Assistant Attorney General for National Security John Demers.

The ship, known as the "Wise Honest," is one of North Korea's largest bulk carriers, the statement said. The seizure is the first time the U.S. has taken possession of a North Korean cargo vessel for violating sanctions.

U.N. sanctions monitors said the vessel was transporting 25,000 tons of coal valued at $3 million when it was detained last year. North Korea also used the ship to deliver heavy machinery.
now THAT is a big deal
 
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Is it safe to assume that diplomacy is no more now?
Not at all.

This is just to prove that the US is serious about its positions and meddlers like China and Russia won't be able to help Kim if push comes to shove. There are a finite number of ships like this in the world. Losing one is devastating to a country like North Korea that is currently entering yet another famine. It is also a sign to aforementioned meddlers that they need to get their shit together because down the road a nuclear North Korea with regional ambitions and a fat cock is very much a problem for China and Russia.
 
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Yeah, more than anything I'd say this is a negotiating tactic. It's not like they sank the thing, they just confiscated it... which means that it can theoretically be given back if fat boy calms his ass down and comes back to the table.
Heck, they might even send it back full of food if Kim plays his cards right.
 
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BONE_Buddy

That Defense Sperg.
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All said and done, this seizure of the Smuggling ship was a deft move by the Trump administration. It was a retaliatory measure that didn't bring us closer to war, and proved that we can actually enforce the sanction measures this aggressively.

Kim thought he had the US (and the rest of the world) playing by his book, this is proof he isn't in control.

Also, this vessel was doing ship to ship transfers, a formerly easy way of smuggling.

Finally, this was one of the largest transport vessels the DPRK had:

gCaptian said:
The 17,000-ton Wise Honest, which also was used to deliver heavy machinery to North Korea, is one of the Pyongyang’s largest bulk carriers, the U.S. Justice Department said.
 

ICametoLurk

SCREW YOUR OPTICS, I'M GOING IN
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I love living in a timeline where Tucker Carlson is trying to save the world by telling Trump not to bomb Iran and saying we can't call out a besieged nation being mean when killing people who threaten their nation like a guy that was a CIA agent and "progressives" hate him. Tucker is like a fucking Tankie.
 

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World War 3? North Korea Missile Launch Hits Japan
By Arthur Villasanta
10/01/19 AT 10:28 PM


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Japan has lodged a strong diplomatic protest with North Korea after one of two ballistic missiles the latter launched towards the Sea of Japan exploded inside its exclusive economic zone (EEZ) Wednesday morning local time.
This is the second time since Aug. 24 North Korean ballistic missiles have struck the Sea of Japan, but the first time missiles have impacted inside Japan's EEZ. The North Koreans today launched the short-range ballistic missiles (SRBMs) from Wonsan in Gangwon Province, according to South Korea's Joint Chiefs of Staff.
The Japan Self-Defense Force (JSDF) is on alert for possible additional launches.
North Korea has conducted eight missile tests involving one or more missiles since the start of the year until present. It launched only one missile in 2018 as talks were then underway with the United States to denuclearize North Korea.




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These talks definitely stalled in 2019, leading North Korea to resume its missile tests to put pressure on president Donald Trump to lift U.S. economic sanctions on North Korea. Analysts say Wednesday's missile launches still deliver the same message to Trump.
North Korea last launched missiles on Sept. 10. It launched two short-range projectiles from Kaechon after proposing to resume denuclearization talks with the U.S. Both the projectiles plummeted into the sea off North Korea’s east coast.
The government of prime minister Abe Shinzo is gathering information about today’s missile launches. There have been no immediate reports of damage to vessels or planes in the area, said Chief Cabinet Secretary Yoshihide Suga.
"North Korea fired two ballistic missiles this morning. Such a ballistic missile launch is in breach of U.N. Security Council resolutions and we strongly protest and condemn it," said Abe in a statement.
"We will continue to work closely with the United States and the international community and do all we can to protect the lives of Japanese people while remaining highly vigilant," Abe said.
Government ministers gathered for a National Security Council meeting at the prime minister's office following the splash down of the North Korean missiles.
Previous North Korean launches have been identified as short range missiles
Previous North Korean launches have been identified as short range missiles Photo: AFP / Jung Yeon-je
Shigeki Takizaki, director general of the Foreign Ministry's Asian and Oceanian Affairs Bureau, held telephone talks with Stephen Biegun, U.S. Special Representative for North Korea, about this incident.
Oddly, the missile launch today came a day after North Korea said it had agreed to start talks with the United States. There is growing speculation both countries might resume their stalled denuclearization talks aborted when Trump walked out of their last meeting on Feb. 28.
Analysts surmise Trump will again refrain from condemning the latest North Koran missile launches as he's done so since the start of the year. Trump has repeatedly said he and North Korean dictator Kim Jong-un "fell in love," hence his refusal to endanger this “relationship.”
Trump still believes in making a grand deal that will lead to North Korea's complete and verifiable denuclearization despite expert opinion to the contrary.
 

Uranus Pink

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Japan ain't going to do anything of importance. Especially when there is roughly quarter million Chinese in Japan and who know how many of their honey potted Japanese traitors are snitching to China everything the JP Govt and JSDF does in real time.
 

heathercho

Don't underestimate Razor-Blade Remi.
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October 13, 2019
A Partial North Korean Nuclear Agreement Is Better Than None at All
Why risk a return to "fire and fury"?

by Rod Lyon

Key point: Pyongyang’s nukes are here to stay and it is better to find some solution now, rather than wait for a crisis later.

Last Friday, after a long hiatus, US and North Korean officials resumed their negotiations on denuclearisation of the Korean peninsula. Later that same day, the North Koreans walked out, citing the Americans’ ‘outdated viewpoint and attitude’. Not an ideal start. But don’t despair: the prospects for some sort of limited accord emerging in the coming months are good. Both sides want a deal—not the same deal, true, but they might yet find enough common ground to make a start on what can only be a long-term task.

Two issues will be prominent in North Korean leader Kim Jong-un’s thoughts. First, the sterling work done by his rocket scientists since the test flight of the Hwasong-15 ICBM in late 2017 has materially strengthened Pyongyang’s hand at the negotiating table. Some of the North’s short-range missiles have been redesigned, apparently to allow them to fly lower and flatter trajectories—complicating the tracking and interception missions of regional ballistic-missile defences. And a recently tested solid-fuelled submarine-launched ballistic missile—although tested from a sub-surface platform rather than an actual submarine—performed well, suggesting North Korea’s making progress on adding a sea-based leg to its nuclear arsenal. All of that makes for a happy Kim.
But in another area, Kim is much less happy. The sanctions-hit North Korean economy is struggling: Seoul’s Bank of Korea estimates the economy shrank by 4.1% in 2018, on top of a 3.5% slump in 2017. Even the weather’s being unkind. The UN Food and Agriculture Organization is predicting that 2019 will see the smallest crop production in five years, bringing serious food shortages to about 40% of the population. In short, sanctions are biting and famine is looming. That weakens Pyongyang’s hand at the negotiating table and Kim’s domestic profile. For much of his reign, he’s been photographed visiting fish farms and food factories.
US President Donald Trump, meanwhile, is probably relieved to see talks resume. He’s copped a fair amount of flak for pulling the plug at the Hanoi summit in February and subsequently trivialising North Korea’s campaign of ongoing missile testing. His personal commitment to Kim through the hiatus in negotiations has been impressive—including his willingness to step across the border in North Korea during the brief meeting between the two at the demilitarised zone.

Kim has previously said that it’s important to have an agreement by the end of the year, now a mere three months away. The reasoning behind that deadline may have more to do with the onset of the presidential race in the US than with any specific North Korean timeline. Kim might well fear that any 2020 agreement would quickly become a political football. Trump, of course, wants a quick agreement for exactly the opposite reason: he hopes to brandish it in 2020 as a sign of his competence in relation to a difficult problem where other presidents have stumbled.
So there are valid reasons to believe that something might come out of this new round of negotiations. That doesn’t mean we’re remotely close to a full and final denuclearisation of the Korean peninsula. Such an agreement could be in place by New Year’s Eve only if the work was already 90% of the way there. Some exchanges have been occurring—in early August, for example, Trump spoke of a three-page letter from Kim. But both sides seem some way away from a full-blown accord.

Indeed, media reports are starting to signal that a more limited agreement is probably the more likely outcome—something that lifts specific sanctions for a set period in exchange for specific forms of North Korean nuclear restraint. That sort of agreement might well be acceptable to both sides as a halfway house which allows them to monitor each other’s bona fides. The agreement would be more than a simple trust-building exercise. The US needs something that would bear down on the North’s nuclear capability and test Pyongyang’s tolerance for greater transparency of its nuclear and missile programs. Pyongyang needs something that increases its sense of security and eases its economic difficulties.
The terms of any limited agreement will be hard fought. And North Korea’s compliance with previous arms control measures is perhaps kindly described as ‘patchy’. So, what should the world expect? Well, Trump’s primary objective will be to wind back threats to the US homeland. He’ll want to reverse the large strategic gains North Korea made in 2017, when it successfully tested two different intercontinental ballistic missiles and a thermonuclear warhead with a yield of about 250 kilotons.

At a minimum, any agreement has to lock down the two unilateral moratoria granted by Kim at the Singapore summit in June last year—a cessation of nuclear tests and ICBM tests—for the simple reason that, unless they are formalised, Kim can withdraw them whenever he chooses. Nowadays the Twitterverse works itself into a mini-frenzy with each new North Korean missile test. A resumption of ICBM testing would be much more serious.
But Washington can’t simply sign up to something that prioritises US security at the expense of the security of its allies in Northeast Asia. An agreement would also need to make inroads into North Korea’s current and future nuclear capabilities, by prohibiting future fissile material production, accounting for existing warheads and outlining a credible program for their destruction. That means Kim has to agree to open up Yongbyon, his main nuclear facility.

That’s going to be difficult for a whole host of reasons. So, watch for a partial agreement, not a full one—and, probably, more walkouts as the rubber starts to hit the road. Still, a series of halfway-house agreements—a sort of Zeno’s paradox version of denuclearisation—may eventually give us a largely nuclear-free Korean peninsula.
This article by Rod Lyon first appeared in the Australian Strategic Policy Insitute’s The Strategist in 2019.

Rod Lyon is a senior fellow at ASPI.
Image: Reuters.






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TL;DR - Rod Lyon gives a fantastic non-screeching summary of current events on the peninsula.

No you don't. When you said things have improved under Trump I knew you were lying. Things have not gotten better, Kim is still saber rattling, and launching missiles.
:story: Don't shit up other threads with your sperging, you ponyfag. Come and enlighten us all on what East Asian diplomacy strats works best.
 
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