TGWTG Nostalgia Chick / Lindsay Ellis / TheDudette - aka Hotdogs in face girl

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Welp. Someone's low on drinking money. Did Mr. Space-X get laid off?
If you check out her recent 20 tweet long musing of "Imposter Syndrome" I really think she just wants attention. God, does she fucking waffle on about nothing. She should've married Peter Coffin.

Been thinking on this for a while. John is my bud, but I wanted to add this as people may take the wrong message from it. Imposter syndrome isn't a question of action (obviously if you write words you're a "writer" in the most literal sense), but of quality and legitimacy. THREAD
Defining “imposter syndrome” as “the fear that you will be exposed as a fraud” is one aspect of the condition, but a bit reductive as it tends to focus on the “fraud” part rather than a general feeling of inadequacy with regard to peers.
Scalzi’s personal example, as he notes, has much to do with class and privilege, but it has just as much to do with how you were raised, and as an adult it’s difficult to rewire those thought patterns, and it's hard to speak to that if you've never experienced imposter syndrome.
If you were raised with hyper-critical parents, especially wrt your academic/creative work, that will follow you into adulthood. Even if you weren’t, if you are surrounded by people who are critical of you, you’re going to grow up assuming this is the default.
There is a gender component to this as well - as women we’re pretty much inundated from birth with skepticism that we are ever as good at anything as our male counterparts. Same with race (weird, how often Black writers are described as "articulate").
At USC (where when I was there the grad student body was about 20% women) we always joked/not-joked that we had to work twice as hard to be seen as half as good. And even knowing there is an unjust double standard in place, it's hard not to internalize some of that.
Obviously imposter syndrome is not unique to women, but on some level, if you experience it enough that it actually effects your work, it is baked into your personality, so implying it's something that one can or should overcome can compound that damage.
So Scalzi talking about why he thinks he’s never suffered from Imposter Syndrome is a separate issue from people overcoming their own. I’m sure he gets the question "how do I overcome imposter syndrome?" a lot - but here is the thing; if he's never had it, he doesn’t know.
Speaking as someone who has never not operated under some form of imposter syndrome or other, I can't say that I have any answers either, but I do know that invalidating feelings of inadequacy makes those feelings worse. "I SHOULD not feel this way - WHY can't I get over this?"
A lot of times people don't realize "you are good at thing, actually" can feel dismissive. Dismissing negative thoughts isn’t helpful for the people who have them - it is a form of invalidating emotions, and the root of these negative thoughts isn’t logic, but self-image.
I don’t know what it is to be satisfied or feel secure in what I do. Every time I hit a milestone, I don't feel secure in it--I’ve already moved the goal post before I even realize I’ve succeeded at [Thing]. But the goal post has been moved, therefore the thing is not a success.
That said I find the attitude that “if you write you’re a writer” pretty disingenuous because even though it’s a nice sentiment, no one believes it. I think people having these feel-good attitudes pushed on them is just another form of invalidating hypercritical negative emotions
So rather than asking “how can I get over this” or implying that you should get over it, or that these feelings are not valid, on some level we should accept that for some people imposter syndrome will just be something you always live with, but learn to harness and cope with.
Speaking personally, my struggle is to reroute catastrophizing thought spirals (“I only achieved [thing] because soandso saw how many YT subs I have, not because of merit”) into something more productive (“how can I improve [thing] with the tools I have?”)
Because the thought patterns that lead to imposter syndrome need not always be a net negative - on some level, it is a form of perfectionism, but perfectionism can be harnessed as energy to create better, more thoughtful work. Perfectionism in moderation need not be destructive.
"Your negative feelings are valid" may not be the thing you want to hear from a public figure - what you want are solutions, but we don't have them. That's an internal process, and something you need to figure out for yourself.

I struggle with the term "perfectionism" because it implies that anything I've ever done is anywhere remotely close to perfect and it feels like a humblebrag, when in reality it's my #1 source of procrastination because it's setting an unachievable standard
 

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If you check out her recent 20 tweet long musing of "Imposter Syndrome" I really think she just wants attention. God, does she fucking waffle on about nothing. She should've married Peter Coffin.

[waffling excised for length]
I wonder how much of this "impostor syndrome" is just her knowing that she owes what little e-fame she has to TGWTG and having nothing new or interesting to say on her own? Is it still a "syndrome" if your feelings of inadequacy are rooted in observable fact?
 

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If you check out her recent 20 tweet long musing of "Imposter Syndrome" I really think she just wants attention. God, does she fucking waffle on about nothing. She should've married Peter Coffin.

Been thinking on this for a while. John is my bud, but I wanted to add this as people may take the wrong message from it. Imposter syndrome isn't a question of action (obviously if you write words you're a "writer" in the most literal sense), but of quality and legitimacy. THREAD
Defining “imposter syndrome” as “the fear that you will be exposed as a fraud” is one aspect of the condition, but a bit reductive as it tends to focus on the “fraud” part rather than a general feeling of inadequacy with regard to peers.
Scalzi’s personal example, as he notes, has much to do with class and privilege, but it has just as much to do with how you were raised, and as an adult it’s difficult to rewire those thought patterns, and it's hard to speak to that if you've never experienced imposter syndrome.
If you were raised with hyper-critical parents, especially wrt your academic/creative work, that will follow you into adulthood. Even if you weren’t, if you are surrounded by people who are critical of you, you’re going to grow up assuming this is the default.
There is a gender component to this as well - as women we’re pretty much inundated from birth with skepticism that we are ever as good at anything as our male counterparts. Same with race (weird, how often Black writers are described as "articulate").
At USC (where when I was there the grad student body was about 20% women) we always joked/not-joked that we had to work twice as hard to be seen as half as good. And even knowing there is an unjust double standard in place, it's hard not to internalize some of that.
Obviously imposter syndrome is not unique to women, but on some level, if you experience it enough that it actually effects your work, it is baked into your personality, so implying it's something that one can or should overcome can compound that damage.
So Scalzi talking about why he thinks he’s never suffered from Imposter Syndrome is a separate issue from people overcoming their own. I’m sure he gets the question "how do I overcome imposter syndrome?" a lot - but here is the thing; if he's never had it, he doesn’t know.
Speaking as someone who has never not operated under some form of imposter syndrome or other, I can't say that I have any answers either, but I do know that invalidating feelings of inadequacy makes those feelings worse. "I SHOULD not feel this way - WHY can't I get over this?"
A lot of times people don't realize "you are good at thing, actually" can feel dismissive. Dismissing negative thoughts isn’t helpful for the people who have them - it is a form of invalidating emotions, and the root of these negative thoughts isn’t logic, but self-image.
I don’t know what it is to be satisfied or feel secure in what I do. Every time I hit a milestone, I don't feel secure in it--I’ve already moved the goal post before I even realize I’ve succeeded at [Thing]. But the goal post has been moved, therefore the thing is not a success.
That said I find the attitude that “if you write you’re a writer” pretty disingenuous because even though it’s a nice sentiment, no one believes it. I think people having these feel-good attitudes pushed on them is just another form of invalidating hypercritical negative emotions
So rather than asking “how can I get over this” or implying that you should get over it, or that these feelings are not valid, on some level we should accept that for some people imposter syndrome will just be something you always live with, but learn to harness and cope with.
Speaking personally, my struggle is to reroute catastrophizing thought spirals (“I only achieved [thing] because soandso saw how many YT subs I have, not because of merit”) into something more productive (“how can I improve [thing] with the tools I have?”)
Because the thought patterns that lead to imposter syndrome need not always be a net negative - on some level, it is a form of perfectionism, but perfectionism can be harnessed as energy to create better, more thoughtful work. Perfectionism in moderation need not be destructive.
"Your negative feelings are valid" may not be the thing you want to hear from a public figure - what you want are solutions, but we don't have them. That's an internal process, and something you need to figure out for yourself.

I struggle with the term "perfectionism" because it implies that anything I've ever done is anywhere remotely close to perfect and it feels like a humblebrag, when in reality it's my #1 source of procrastination because it's setting an unachievable standard
TLDR: DAE feel like they aren’t as good as they think they are? DAE lack self confidence?
I find it funny though how she tries to blame low self esteem on racism and sexism
 

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If she does try to take legal action, I don't think she will be very successful. It is illegal to use someone's image for exploitative purposes, but this is a murky situation. That gif is floating around numerous places on the web, so it would be easy for the company behind the movie to claim that they had no idea who she was or where it originated from. I very much doubt Lindsay has any kind of formal copyright to her old videos. If anything CA might have more of a legal claim to the Nostalgia Chick videos, so they would also have to factor into the equation.

At the most I could see the courts making the studio remove all footage of the gif if Lindsay complains enough. However I highly doubt they would give her any kind of compensation.

EDIT: I didn't even mention that court and lawyer fees are not exactly cheap. I don't know how much her, ahem, "partner" brings in, but they might think twice once they see how much it would cost.
 
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MediocreMilt

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TL;DR Imposter Syndrome
Imposter syndrome is one of two things: normal self-doubt that you need to work through, which is somewhat narcissistic, in all honesty ("oh no, what if everybody doesn't think I'm good enough" when the reality is that everybody just wants to go home after eight hours of bullshit)

or actually not being good enough for your job. ironically, though there are many capable women and minorities in non-traditional positions for those groups, I highly doubt it's a coincidence that the notion of "Imposter Syndrome" is being talked about during and after the Great Diversity Shove.

If she does try to take legal action, I don't think she will be very successful. It is illegal to use someone's image for exploitative purposes, but this is a murky situation. That gif is floating around numerous places on the web, so it would be easy for the company behind the movie to claim that they had no idea who she was or where it originated from. I very much doubt Lindsay has any kind of formal copyright to her old videos. If anything CA might have more of a legal claim to the Nostalgia Chick videos, so they would also have to factor into the equation.
Lindsay will sue so that Doug Walker and his paymasters can recoup losses :story:
 

Nykysnottrans

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If you check out her recent 20 tweet long musing of "Imposter Syndrome" I really think she just wants attention. God, does she fucking waffle on about nothing.
She tweeted:

I don’t know what it is to be satisfied or feel secure in what I do. Every time I hit a milestone, I don't feel secure in it--I’ve already moved the goal post before I even realize I’ve succeeded at [Thing]. But the goal post has been moved, therefore the thing is not a success.
Of course you should move the goal poast once you've achieved a goal, duh, you should always strive to do better. That's normal, but she wants to be such a self-satisfied fuck like her friend Nyk/ContraPoints, she thinks it's self-defeating or something to drive yourself to do better.

I find it funny though how she tries to blame low self esteem on racism and sexism
She tweeted:

At USC (where when I was there the grad student body was about 20% women) we always joked/not-joked that we had to work twice as hard to be seen as half as good. And even knowing there is an unjust double standard in place, it's hard not to internalize some of that.
That's because academia has become more competitive as it became more commercial and more crowded. It doesn't just have to do with sexism or racism, it has to do with the fact that more people than ever want to study (which is a good thing), so there is increased competition and you have to run harder and harder just to stay in place. Does she really think that white male students don't experience this as well? Fuck, go into some all-male STEM department and see how competitive it is.
 

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