TGWTG Nostalgia Chick / Lindsay Ellis / TheDudette - aka Hotdogs in face girl

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its supposed to be a reference to Conquest of Bread by Kropotkin, which ofc is an important text and something they all are proud to reference but at the end of the day is ivory tower stuff that means dick to your average working class person like Lindsay’s southern “white trash” family (her words ofc, lovely)
It's fitting that most of them have not even read the book and those that did read it didn't learn shit from it.
 

Tragi-Chan

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I think the only good thing that came out of this is that the left is forced to finally admit they cancel culture isn't something that their detractors made up.
I’m not so sure. The impression I get from people like Lindsay and Allison Pregler is that mental gymnastics are the order of the day. Cancel culture “doesn’t exist,” that’s something made up by Diet Nazis (even though people on both sides of the political spectrum use the term). When people like Lindsay conduct their witch hunts, it’s about holding people accountable for their actions, even minor misdemeanours from years ago. And when Lindsay is the witch, well, it’s Diet Nazis acting in bad faith.

I reckon terms like “Diet Nazi” and “holding people accountable” will be adopted by these mother hens, then their opponents will use the terms against them, then they’ll whine about right-wing dog whistles.
Cancel culture has effectively been turned into a political tool to mute your opponents just because you don't share their perspective.
The entire world is forced to beat around the bush and tap dance to the same song because people will be offended by anything you say regardless of the context.
Whether people like Ellis realize it or not they have blood on their hands and now it's gotten so radical that one dissenting I think it can cause you your livelihood or even your life.
The idea of " taking accountability" doesn't work when people refuse to allow a person to grow past their mistakes
I don’t think it’s even about muting your opponents a lot of the time. It often is, but I think there’s a strong element of jealousy to it. People like Rowling and Ellis have lives that most Twittards can only dream of. So do you work to achieve the same success? No, that requires effort. Far easier to destroy them and bring them down to your level.
 

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It's fitting that most of them have not even read the book and those that did read it didn't learn shit from it.
Reading your comment is the first time I've actually put serious though into their name. It only just hit me how much a misnomer Breadtube is. It may as well be added that to the list of ironies Kropotkin has suffered in the fullness of time. Even a group that claims to take up his mantle instead argues in favor of everything he feared and warned against. For anyone who hasn't read Conquest of Bread, here's how Kropotkin envisions his utopia: "Inspired by a new daring — thanks to the sentiment of solidarity — all will march together to the conquest of the high joys of knowledge and artistic creation. A society thus inspired will fear neither dissensions within nor enemies without." The poor guy is probably spinning in his grave given how much Breadtube have sown division and encouraged cancel culture all while using his work as their branding.

Its kind of sad. Personally I think Kropotkin's utopian vision is completely unworkable; Engels' argument in "On Authority" becomes more unassailable with every technological and societal development. At the same time though, most of his ideas are positive aspirations if nothing else and the others are at worst benign. A lefty YouTube group dedicated to fostering community, resisting authoritarianism, and helping people better realize their potential would be breath of fresh air nowadays. Instead we have Breadtube.
 

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Reading your comment is the first time I've actually put serious though into their name. It only just hit me how much a misnomer Breadtube is. It may as well be added that to the list of ironies Kropotkin has suffered in the fullness of time. Even a group that claims to take up his mantle instead argues in favor of everything he feared and warned against. For anyone who hasn't read Conquest of Bread, here's how Kropotkin envisions his utopia: "Inspired by a new daring — thanks to the sentiment of solidarity — all will march together to the conquest of the high joys of knowledge and artistic creation. A society thus inspired will fear neither dissensions within nor enemies without." The poor guy is probably spinning in his grave given how much Breadtube have sown division and encouraged cancel culture all while using his work as their branding.

Its kind of sad. Personally I think Kropotkin's utopian vision is completely unworkable; Engels' argument in "On Authority" becomes more unassailable with every technological and societal development. At the same time though, most of his ideas are positive aspirations if nothing else and the others are at worst benign. A lefty YouTube group dedicated to fostering community, resisting authoritarianism, and helping people better realize their potential would be breath of fresh air nowadays. Instead we have Breadtube.
Even online, Communist ideals dissolve into corruption, cronyism and authoritarianism. Really makes you think.
 

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Even online, Communist ideals dissolve into corruption, cronyism and authoritarianism. Really makes you think.
Pretty much. Any Socialist or Communist ideal that doesn't embrace the iron fist either twists back to being capitalist oriented (like Social Democracy) or becomes a plump sheep for the nearest ideological wolf to devour and wear its skin. For a man who considered history to be a multi-millennia spanning tale of conflict and exploitation Marx was far too naïve if he ever genuinely believed an ideology that seeks to subordinate all power to a single all-consuming entity, free for any despot to seize the reigns, could ever be free of corruption, authoritarianism, and backstabbing. Lindsay Ellis just happens to have kindly positioned herself as this weeks case study.
 

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Well what we have here lindsay responding to her "canceling" in form of a video no less

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The point about “Elevating POC Voices” seems to be like Ellis trying to pull the “LOOK IM A GOOD ALLY GUYZ!!” Thing.


Pretty much. Any Socialist or Communist ideal that doesn't embrace the iron fist either twists back to being capitalist oriented (like Social Democracy) or becomes a plump sheep for the nearest ideological wolf to devour and wear its skin. For a man who considered history to be a multi-millennia spanning tale of conflict and exploitation Marx was far too naïve if he ever genuinely believed an ideology that seeks to subordinate all power to a single all-consuming entity, free for any despot to seize the reigns, could ever be free of corruption, authoritarianism, and backstabbing. Lindsay Ellis just happens to have kindly positioned herself as this weeks case study.
Either that or the commie state breaks down and becomes a military junta.
 
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Reading your comment is the first time I've actually put serious though into their name. It only just hit me how much a misnomer Breadtube is. It may as well be added that to the list of ironies Kropotkin has suffered in the fullness of time. Even a group that claims to take up his mantle instead argues in favor of everything he feared and warned against. For anyone who hasn't read Conquest of Bread, here's how Kropotkin envisions his utopia: "Inspired by a new daring — thanks to the sentiment of solidarity — all will march together to the conquest of the high joys of knowledge and artistic creation. A society thus inspired will fear neither dissensions within nor enemies without." The poor guy is probably spinning in his grave given how much Breadtube have sown division and encouraged cancel culture all while using his work as their branding.

Its kind of sad. Personally I think Kropotkin's utopian vision is completely unworkable; Engels' argument in "On Authority" becomes more unassailable with every technological and societal development. At the same time though, most of his ideas are positive aspirations if nothing else and the others are at worst benign. A lefty YouTube group dedicated to fostering community, resisting authoritarianism, and helping people better realize their potential would be breath of fresh air nowadays. Instead we have Breadtube.
Khmertube is too obscure a reference...

Watched the entire video. God, those chicks are stupid, first they cultivated an audience of "cartoons for six year olds are deeply political and this is a problem" and then cry foul when they get canceled.
It's not like we leftists don't know that there are some fucked in the head people (mostly in antifa) who are there as an excuse to bash in some heads and they actively seek the twitter equivalent.
It's not like they won't end up in the Killing fields themselves and good for Ellis to try and put on the breaks.
Too bad she should have done that years ago.

In short, enjoy the beast you have fed all those years, bitches.
 

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Every thought is a hostage situation. "Is this the tweet that's going to sink me?" So what do we call it? What is the name for this unspoken, unacknowledged culture of fear where we all know that one misstep can ruin our lives? This social media culture where we participate in the public shaming one day and become chained to the pillory next.
Oh, NOW that's bitting your ass, it's suddenly a bad thing. How convenient!
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Even online, Communist ideals dissolve into corruption, cronyism and authoritarianism. Really makes you think.
All similar concepts lead to the same result because they disregard basic human nature and the will to power. All soviet-style systems devolve into one all-powerful legislative body, like the Supreme Soviet, which is inevitably dominated by the most powerful personality, whether that is a Robespierre or a Stalin. Without a clear division of government authority into branches and checks and balances to prevent any one branch from dominating, this turns into tyranny, almost so universally as to be a law of nature.

Yet these ignorant cretins would gladly tear it all to the ground and send us into barbarism.
The point about “Elevating POC Voices” seems to be like Ellis trying to pull the “LOOK IM A GOOD ALLY GUYZ!!” Thing.
How about elevating intelligent voices? If the words are fucking moronic who gives a shit what color mouth they're coming out of?
 

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I’m not so sure. The impression I get from people like Lindsay and Allison Pregler is that mental gymnastics are the order of the day. Cancel culture “doesn’t exist,” that’s something made up by Diet Nazis (even though people on both sides of the political spectrum use the term). When people like Lindsay conduct their witch hunts, it’s about holding people accountable for their actions, even minor misdemeanours from years ago. And when Lindsay is the witch, well, it’s Diet Nazis acting in bad faith.

I reckon terms like “Diet Nazi” and “holding people accountable” will be adopted by these mother hens, then their opponents will use the terms against them, then they’ll whine about right-wing dog whistles.

I don’t think it’s even about muting your opponents a lot of the time. It often is, but I think there’s a strong element of jealousy to it. People like Rowling and Ellis have lives that most Twittards can only dream of. So do you work to achieve the same success? No, that requires effort. Far easier to destroy them and bring them down to your level.
Granted this was based off of observations that I've seen in the last couple of years.
Nine times out of ten, Lefty A dislikes that person B did something that they don't like or has a dissenting opinion but instead of accepting that people are just naturally going to differ about certain things, they drum up a storm in their Echo chamber and it spreads like wildfire until person B has been decommissioned or runoff.
I may sound retro for saying this but really nothing is sacred anymore.
Leftist are so shallow that they'll bludgeon anyone who doesn't share their beliefs and will do anything that suits their agenda.
 
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Honestly a two hour long apology video is a power move, it’s absolutely going to work by burying the issue in two hours of self-critical analysis that you can’t really respond to unless you put in equal effort at least if you want to continue engaging the issue directly with her, the back-benching in places such as here is a valid continuation of the debate on its own terms, but the critical mass of her audience is gonna accept this regardless of actual quality and move on.

Absolutely canny media savviness on Ellis’ part, she’s taken the initiative and used it to give her audience closure. This isn’t going to negatively affect her beyond having to explain why she’s not on Twitter/had to remake her Twitter for the future.
 

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2. To give credit where credit is due I did not know the Justine Sacco shitstorm was more multilayered with her family being Pro-Mandela South Africans. But then Lindsay makes the humdinger of a defense that perhaps Ms Sacco thought she was so much of an "ally" that she could just make a hurtful downright racist statement without any blowback? And then she makes a wrongly bigoted statement that "white people do this all the time." How did this "pop culture critic" forget that Nick Cannon got "cancelled" for voicing Black Supremacist garbage? At the end of the day it's simply true that some people (and not necessarily bad people) will make awful comments because they think it's funny, they honestly feel that way, or they're looking to offend/shock others. No need for mental gymnastics.
See, this is a major reason why I know that she is just as disingenuous as ever—she claims to hate the Twitter mob/cancel culture and then she regurgitates/misuses their quotes without a second thought. Justine Sacco, at absolute most, is someone who isn’t as funny as they think they are/doesn’t have amazing judgement. All of the twitter mob claims at the time were totally incorrect and seriously misconstrued Justine’s background. Her family supporting South African independence had nothing to do with anything she said, nor the claims the mob made about her. She grew up in Long Island. How many people are seriously effected by their extended family’s political views?
In reviving these claims of an event that occurred eight years ago, Lindsay is once again showing how lazy she is and how willing she is to believe whatever the Twitter mob claims.
 
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She's definitely a snake with Doug and apparently Moviebob as well.
https://archive.md/r9cpq
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Also, if anyone wanted to know about the TERF-esque tweet Lindsay did to Iron Liz, luckily someone archived it. https://archive.ph/EaUXB
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Ya know as a rule I dont believe that we should proactively arm woke mobs with the info we hold on people but Im thinking an exception be made and that we gather up as much cancellable tier shit we can together on a single post to ensure any naughty wokesped trying to get sekrit lore on lindsay from us is able to get what they need to start a new shitstorm.
 

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Writers Tears is an annoying flex, but it's good stuff. At least she has taste while abusing her liver.
I'm not gonna lie, heavy drinking actually helped me complete a fair number of papers in College, but eventually the time comes to leave that lifestyle behind before you're left with kidney failure. Lindsay chose aborting her own child and becoming a pretentious, woke winewhore grasping at the center of a marginal online community that no one could care less about besides the people that followed her from her channel awesome days and the chinks that got angry at her over the slant eyes comment.
>Hey white people cool it down with sucking up to POC on every occasion
>Anyhow let me tell you about my internalized white privilege and my uneducated white trash family
Good job Lindsy
White women ironically don't understand that it makes Black people more uncomfortable than they already might be with you when you inform them that you have racist parents or that you've debated your family before. It's not impressive to them, it just makes them deeply uncomfortable with your family and skeptical of you/your intentions.

Most of the Black people you'll meet as a White person just wanna get along and not talk about America's racial caste system or how they're essentially a people devoid of a real ancestral culture due to slavery.
 
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