TGWTG Nostalgia Chick / Lindsay Ellis / TheDudette - aka Hotdogs in face girl

One thing I couldn’t get past in her video is when she was talking about the original little mermaid. The prince isn’t interested in Arial simply because he isn’t attracted to her, then says that’s clearly a parallel to how gay men feel? Completely forgetting that sometimes, you can just not be attracted to someone. I got some serious nice girl vibes from that covered up as ‘it’s the gay actually’.
Someone mentioned it above.

Breadtube lacks so much passion, and it's so obvious. Her and her peers never sound like they are actually enjoying themselves. At the very least with TGWTG, as autistic and bullshit as that all was, you could at least sometimes see weird little people doing or talking about something that brought them joy. And as bad as the effects, and acting, and writing were, people were still drawn to it because it felt like you were in a spot on the internet where people liked the same autismo shit you liked, and it didn't have this godawful air of trying to be "groundbreaking" or "a insightful look into the human condition", a lot of times, it was just the Cinema Snob talking about E.T. porn, or the Nostalgia Critic shooting Casper the Friendly Ghost.

It's tiring to constantly see Millennial Irony. I wish people could actually like stuff just for the sake of liking stuff again, and not always feel like they have to intellectually justify it.
Lindsay's part of a crowd that has a tendency to see things through a certain lens. They can never be as they are.
 

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She mentioned early last year she's been thinking about it, mostly so she could whine about her doctor telling her that if you're over 35, the medical term is a geriatric pregnancy and she took offence to that.

She might do it as a way to get more money via a gofundme or something.
Oh god she'd make a horrible mother. Honestly out of all the internet famous women on here Lindsay is the one of the last ones I can see as an actual caring mother. Her kid will either end up not being raised by her but her parents, having fetal alcohol syndrome or a genderspecial because of the crap she shoves down their throat. Or all three.
 

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Lindsay is the type to wait until she is 42, have to spend tens of thousands of dollars on fertility treatments to actually get and keep her pregnancy, have to spend tens of thousands of dollars on a difficult childbirth, for an autism goblin who is encouraged to troon out (made easier due to the aforementioned autism). Lindsay would be an even worse mother than she would be as a media critic and that is a very low bar.
 

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Ursula was mainly based off of a drag queen named Divine, who is known for being in various John Waters films, so there are definitely some roots in queer culture there, but Ariel being a trans metaphor absolutely makes no sense whatsoever. It's almost as if she's just pulling shit out of her ass!

*Devine

Who is wonderful and hilarious and would have been cancelled a fucking long time ago because she was actually counter culture.

Surprised John Water's has made it this far but most people under 22 don't know who he is.
 

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*Devine

Who is wonderful and hilarious and would have been cancelled a fucking long time ago because she was actually counter culture.

Surprised John Water's has made it this far but most people under 22 don't know who he is.
John Waters hasn't been in public for well over twenty years.
 

AfghanBlue

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*Divine.
DIVINE-984x1000.jpeg
 

MarvinTheParanoidAndroid

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1. Guys, lets all forget that i used to do bad faith criticism of disney shit, girl boss feminism is bad and ariel didnt cause the wage gap
If someone realizes the error of their ways & wants to move on then what's the problem? Would it be preferred if she doubled down instead?

As an aside, I do like the new video & how it addresses faux feminist grievances with Disney princesses.

As she criticizes leftism, she will drift steadily toward the right & land dead center & become the Sith/Jedi hybrid of legend.
I'm also digging the new Goth look.
 

MarvinTheParanoidAndroid

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Lindsay is the type to wait until she is 42, have to spend tens of thousands of dollars on fertility treatments to actually get and keep her pregnancy, have to spend tens of thousands of dollars on a difficult childbirth, for an autism goblin who is encouraged to troon out (made easier due to the aforementioned autism). Lindsay would be an even worse mother than she would be as a media critic and that is a very low bar.
I don't think she's having children, ever. If so, I don't see a problem.
 

BrunoMattei

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If someone realizes the error of their ways & wants to move on then what's the problem? Would it be preferred if she doubled down instead?

As an aside, I do like the new video & how it addresses faux feminist grievances with Disney princesses.

As she criticizes leftism, she will drift steadily toward the right & land dead center & become the Sith/Jedi hybrid of legend.
I'm also digging the new Goth look.
It is possible for people to change. It's unlikely as the older they get but it is possible. I'm sure her excursion with being "cancelled" made her reevaluate a lot of the bullshit she used to propagate.
 

AfghanBlue

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shocked at how hideous her husband is.
like i'd have thought you could get a better clout chasing partner by virtue of to be fair, having a pretty successful youtube channel. wtf? archetypal incel aesthetic.

Also - just reading back on these pages- the drunk arrest.
someone was writing about 'how drunk you have to be to be arrrested as a woman for drunk and disorderly etc etc'
well, I was ( in fairness cops up here used to love harrassing young people for doing things like, having fires on the beach, they would come, stamp out fires, harrass people and get you annoyed in order to get a quick easy arrest for the quotas, at that time- )

so yeah, when i was like 17 -18, i had a few drunk cautions here and there - never actually did a night in the cells for it, as all they wanted was fine money and you had to continue to be pretty awful once you'd been arrested and removed and they'd got your particulars, for them to waste cell space on a weekend night for you.

Anyway, my point is, being as I've been vaguely aware of DUI? shit about Lindsey for ages, I thought this shit was years, like decades back.
Apparently its kinda recent? like 2017? Man that's fucking bad. Like, baaaad.
We are grown up women lmao, not snot nosed punks any more.

I felt kinda sorry for her being cancelled for bullshit all, as I do for anyone, but then I'm blissfully unawares as to anything she's done that might kind of make it pleasingly karmic. The only type of people I saw saying it was were like, psychos calling her a lifelong nazi etc lmao.

But yeah, that drunk arrest is ...oof. Nono no.
 

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Contrary to most people here it seems, i thought the Mermaid video was pretty entertaining, i even laughed a bit, and she seems a bit better. She looks better, her makeup isn't a mess like it usually is, the foundation seems to match for a change. Did she use a beauty filter? I wouldn't be surprised, her face seems blurred. Of course i would stop with the dark berry lips if i was, like her, a moonface with skin as white as paper, but visually she looks more put-together. (Lindsey, you insist on emphasing your lips, even if you are getting slightly better at applying lipstick, i assure you it does nothing for you. Use a lighter touch on the lips and emphasize your eyes! A grey smoky eye would make youl look 1000 time better than purple lips. Try it! Just because the advice comes from Kiwifarm doesn't mean it isn't good!)

Also, i like that she side-steps the wokescold take by defending the queer-quoded vilains, instead of accusing Disney of teaching homophobia to kids. It's true, faggoty vilains are cool and entertaining, and those movies need more of them. Kids are more likely to learn homophobia from their parents than from Disney, and the most violent kind of homophobia from some parents than are anti-Disney, actually.

I think the trans interpretation is a bit far fetched, and of course, she should stop plugging Mermaids, given that even a lot of transactivists seem to agree that this org is pRObleMatIc.

My big critic would be that the conclusion isn't great, the video just kinda ends after some platitudes about clickbait that she already said earlier, and then she segue into her book that i won't buy. And the way she plugs the same clips, like from Pocahontas and Hunchback, each time she mentions those movie is really ineffective. They are stuck in the middle of her sentences in a way that just ruins the rythm. Stop trying to make memes out "i am losing to a bird", it's really not funny enough to deserve it, Lindsay.
 
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I felt kinda sorry for her being cancelled for bullshit all, as I do for anyone, but then I'm blissfully unawares as to anything she's done that might kind of make it pleasingly karmic. The only type of people I saw saying it was were like, psychos calling her a lifelong nazi etc lmao.
\bitch was never really cancelled (other than self-fake cancelled)
 

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Contrary to most people here it seems, i thought the Mermaid video was pretty entertaining, i even laughed a bit, and she seems a bit better. She looks better, her makeup isn't a mess like it usually is, the foundation seems to match for a change. Did she use a beauty filter? I wouldn't be surprised, her face seems blurred. Of course i would stop with the dark berry lips if i was, like her, a moonface with skin as white as paper, but visually she looks more put-together. (Lindsey, you insist on emphasing your lips, even if you are getting slightly better at applying lipstick, i assure you it does nothing for you. Use a lighter touch on the lips and emphasize your eyes! A grey smoky eye would make youl look 1000 time better than purple lips. Try it! Just because the advice comes from Kiwifarm doesn't mean it isn't good!)

Also, i like that she side-steps the wokescold take by defending the queer-quoded vilains, instead of accusing Disney of teaching homophobia to kids. It's true, faggoty vilains are cool and entertaining, and those movies need more of them. Kids are more likely to learn homophobia from their parents than from Disney, and the most violent kind of homophobia from some parents than are anti-Disney, actually.

I think the trans interpretation is a bit far fetched, and of course, she should stop plugging Mermaids, given that even a lot of transactivists seem to agree that this org is pRObleMatIc.

My big critic would be that the conclusion isn't great, the video just kinda ends after some platitudes about clickbait that she already said earlier, and then she segue into her book that i won't buy. And the way she plugs the same clips, like from Pocahontas and Hunchback, each time she mentions those movie is really ineffective. They are stuck in the middle of her sentences in a way that just ruins the rythm. Stop trying to make memes out "i am losing to a bird", it's really not funny enough to deserve it, Lindsay.
I think its very uninspired and to me it seems like shes increasingly locked into a dull formula, I was watching this and I could almost already predict what the whole video would entail beforehand based on her other stuff.

-Disney movie from her childhood
-Comments about Feminism then and now
-Cherrypicking Jezebel articles or popular Twitter comments to complain about and talk about how retarded people were back in the day (not her of course, she has the good and correct opinions and never even partook in the same complaints as those idiots did in 2014, not at all, nope, no siree bob)
-Worn out jokes based on trying to meme a few scenes out of context, she's even resorting back to the same scenes from other videos, I don't think 'I'm losing to a bird!' is as hilarious as she seems to think.
-Other jokes about mental health, I'm almost surprised she didn't do the incredibly played out breadtube staple of making a joke about how I need to chug down a bottle of Jameson to make it through this horrible movie/agonizing discourse around this work.
-Pained and Hackneyed 'Queer' reading that itself falls into increasingly well worn tropes, I feel like any story that involves some kind of transformation is now going to be said to be a trans allegory no matter how little actual sense that makes. And apparently a guy not being into a girl means he's gay coded automatically? But in the original story the Prince actually does love another woman which is why the Mermaid is so emotionally devastated at the end? Its stupid and it shows how much queer readings often have to bend and break the work in question to make sense.

I've seen most of this before, like she's already talked extensively about how queer Disney villains are meant to be, and outside of that there wasn't really much of anything that I thought was insightful. I don't even think she had a particularly good argument against the people who were saying that its a not very 'Feminist' movie, she just kind of wrote them off as wanting it to be a girlboss thing which feels like a side issue. She just doesn't really have anything to say at all and her delivery and editing is not very inspired here especially compared to some of her previous stuff, usually even if I don't like her much personally and think a lot of her takes are stupid she makes reasonably well made and entertaining videos but here its not really the case.

Also, I don't know anything about makeup but this caked on white makeup looks terrible to me, its like she's time traveled from the 16th century.

Also the trans allegory makes even less sense in this movie when you think about it because she only wants to be human to be able to move around on the surface and interact with the love of her life, otherwise getting legs is presented as a major sacrifice she would otherwise prefer not to do but has to because its the only way she thinks she'll be able to get what she wants. She only ends up doing it for the sake of the man in her life, not really herself, its more like getting plastic surgery to have huge ass knockers or else her husband will divorce her.
 

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