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TGWTG "Nostalgia Critic" / Doug Walker, Rob Walker, Mike Michaud, Mike Ellis, Holly Christine Brown, et alThe Incompetent Predator-Protecting Upper Management of Channel Awesome, Going Scorched Earth

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  1. I can vouch for that.

    I had heard of the Camillo Teti/rapping dog version before YouTube was a thing. I read about it, saw some pictures, went What?!, then got on with life.

    It's been party time ever since the NC video.
     
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  2. I'm sorry, she has my sympathies for knowing that her former friend is a shit bag in such a way, but what is wrong with your face?
     
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  3. Like I've said previously, I know Doug can be funny. The issue is he usually never plays to his strengths and influences and goes for things way outside his comfort zone or skill set. He's probably bogged down by the idea people WANT the long ass cringe skits and even more bogged down by incompetent management. It's a case of someone being so fucking close yet still somehow missing the mark by a mile, it's sad really.
     
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  4. Of course she doesn't, the only videos of jesuotaku's I even could stand where his Digimon retrospectives where she went over the characters and plots and while she never finished them they were good for backeoubac noise
     
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  5. I never really get why reviewers think their viewers want to sit through skits. If it were a "How It Should Have Ended" type channel then sure, make goofy skits based on a movie. But people watch reviews instead of skit shows for a reason.
     
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  6. The bigger problems with their "skits" is that they are not funny, not engaging and just cringe.
     
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  7. It’s even worse with Videogame reviewers like Disgruntled Diego. I clicked because I want to know about the game. How does it play? Is it good? Unlike movies, the review helps inform my purchasing decision. So why the fuck are you dressed like Cobra Comander and making me sit through thirty minutes of ear bleed causing shrieking to answer those questions?

    My theory is that’s the part that wouldn’t wash out from all the paint she started huffing when she heard about JewWario. Either that or she has snapped and is becoming a Batman villain. Understandably so. I look forward to when she chains the Walker brothers up in an elaborate rube goldberg’esque dick chopping machine and Twitch Streams it while cackling insanely.
     
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    #4027 RodgerDodger, Apr 16, 2018
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  8. I don't mind Upset Felipe that much. Whatever you may think of his skits, they only take up like maybe 5 minutes of his overall game reviews. And he is certainly a far superior analyzer and critic than Doug is. Not when he's reviewing movies though, he's kind of shit at that.
     
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    #4028 Tom Salagna, Apr 16, 2018
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  9. If I had to put my money I think it's a combination of the reviewers wanting to show off their acting prowess as well as homage to the MST3K host segments as well as a homage live action PBS Edutainment shows of the 90s which would have informative segments punctuated by skits. As you can see there are a few problems with this.

    1. Most of the reviewing crowd can't act to save their skins
    2. The MST3K Host segments and the PBS Edutainment skits were very hit or miss due to it not being the main focus and not having any comedy writers. Almost all the host segments from the Mike era of MST3K are unwatchable and the PBS Edutainment skits ranged from cringe comedy to wanting to strangle everyone involved.
    3. Most audiences have a limited patience for stuff outside the show's scope. When you have something stupid happening for extended periods of time, most audiences will want you to get back to the show at hand or knock it off. When people watch MST3K they want to see riffing, they don't care about Brain Guy or Monkey Dude. When people watch PBS Edutainment they wan tinformation, they don't care about the idiot who destroys everything or the moron who has a laundry list of allergies. When people watch reviews they want to see a review. They don't care about characters or poorly acted sketches that go on for long periods of time.
     
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  10. I've got a soft spot for this one skit
     
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  11. I guess a "compromise" could be if the sketches were released separately to the reviews themselves. He does reviews every other week, right? So maybe the sketches could be released on the "off weeks" as a trailer for the review that's coming up! That way, he gets to have his "creative" outlets, and it won't infect the review.
     
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  12. Off topic, but where would you put something like Neo Yokio (basically the biggest budget shitpost to ever exist), which is often put in the "so bad it's good" genre, where it doesn't belong as it's clearly very self aware and trying to be funny.
    Yet falls into this weird gray zone for me where I don't think it's genuinely good enough to recommend without irony, yet I'm still somehow very glad it exists.
     
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  13. In the same category as Tim and Eric or Kung Pow?
     
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  14. So the “only amusing when tripping ballz” category? Also known as “you’ll be really ashamed you laughed at that in the morning” regret category.
     
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  15. I'm genuinely curious if anyone actually likes or wants those skits. They seem to be the #1 reason cited when people explain why they dropped the Nostalgia Critic. I have never heard anyone say anything positive about the skits. If anything, the Nostalgia Critic's remaining fans probably tolerate them more than they actually enjoy them. I doubt they would be rioting and demanding the skits back if Doug dropped them. Keeping the skits kind of feels like an ego thing on Doug's part.
     
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  16. I know hardcore fans like Alex Grady really likes them
     
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  17. Doug and Rob live inside a bubble where they think every single thing they vomit out is Mel Brooks comedy gold material. I'm sure they still believe to this day that Demo Reel was an unappreciated gem that deserved more success.
     
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  18. A lot of the hardcore fans really like them, at least to the point of writing fanfic and fanart of the skit characters that Doug created (Hyper fangirl is really popular with fans for some reason...).
     
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  19. I think Doug filling the video with skits has more to do with him avoiding copyright strikes against his vids.

    In the old days, a 7 minute video where a majority of it is clips is begging to get struck down. However, a half hour vid with long skits and about a third of it comes from the movie itself, in his mind, that probably makes it easier to get away with.
     
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  20. I think the most autistic of Doug's fans just want to see and hear him more, so they are perfectly okay with skits.
     
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    #4040 JuanButNotForgotten, Apr 16, 2018
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