TGWTG "Nostalgia Critic" / Doug Walker, Rob Walker, Mike Michaud, Mike Ellis, Holly Christine Brown, et al - The Incompetent Predator-Protecting Upper Management of Channel Awesome, Doug Still Not That Funny

PeriodicTrouble

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I gave the video a shot until this part at around 15 minutes.
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How is Brad a coward by sticking with his best friends over the people who lied about them and tried to destroy their livelihoods? Allison was unwilling to be sympathetic to him over him getting doxed and him and his family getting harassed because of the shitshow she had a big hand in creating. This is a woman who said the death threats she received for talking about the rape joke spoony did a month later was the hardest thing she had to go through yet she didn't care when Brad had to deal with a false wellness check. This person is just another person who just believes the document and the movement without actually looking into it to see what's true and what's not.
 

Lurk Jurk

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Doug's video is so intentionally misreading the movie that it seems like he has a personal vendetta against it. Someone in one of the response videos joked that perhaps Doug had a bully who wore Pink Floyd shirts? That honestly seems plausible. Or he liked a girl who was into Pink Floyd who rejected his advances. The uncle who molested him mentioned the movie once. Dark Side of the Moon happened to be on while his mother lay on her death bed. Something like that. Because his video is so spiteful and contrarian. It comes off as "Fuck this movie. Fuck this album. Fuck this band. Fuck these people. Fuck everyone involved in this."

I don't think it was him using this as an opportunity to show his filmmaking and singing skills because he could have picked any musical to parody. He deliberately chose The Wall out of some petty balled up hatred that has been brewing for god knows how long.
I have no idea why he chose The Wall of all things other than he vaguely remembered hearing it was freaky and weird and was going to have Corey Taylor in a video so he thought it would be... relevant? I don't think it was hate in this case but pure incompetence. He does the songs in album order in the review, not in film order. He doesn't use any footage from the movie, even when praising the animation, just some low res still images that he probably got off Google.

What I'm saying is I suspect Doug didn't even watch the movie and those were really his actual terrible takes on what the songs mean.
 

Fraudius

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I don't think it was him using this as an opportunity to show his filmmaking and singing skills because he could have picked any musical to parody. He deliberately chose The Wall out of some petty balled up hatred that has been brewing for god knows how long.
Though his review certainly does come off as hateful, I think that's just Doug being Doug. That's just how he approaches movies. He doesn't know how to engage with them on any other level. And he has always seemed to really loathe any kind of overt symbolism.

I suspect that the idea for him to review The Wall actually came from Corey Taylor or his son, who I gather is a Nostalgia Critic fan. If he did it for them, it would explain why he took on something that was so far out of his element.
 

Muttnik

To the stars!
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Doug has expressed hatred for other works he seems "pretentious". The Cell comes to mind. And while yes, artistic arrogant pandering can be annoying, they are also personal and still worthy of examination. A film might be pretentious and on its high horse but it also is the closest thing a director has in directly communicating with their audience. And in that, the work has meaning.

Doug doesn't really understand film. He doesn't understand themes or motifs. He completely misses the ball on core concepts and then shits on the movie for being pretentious and confusing.
 

Boston Brand

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Though his review certainly does come off as hateful, I think that's just Doug being Doug. That's just how he approaches movies. He doesn't know how to engage with them on any other level. And he has always seemed to really loathe any kind of overt symbolism.

I suspect that the idea for him to review The Wall actually came from Corey Taylor or his son, who I gather is a Nostalgia Critic fan. If he did it for them, it would explain why he took on something that was so far out of his element.

Say whatever else about Doug... how many other CA alumni could get the lead singer of Slipknot to appear in multiple reviews and star in what's essentially a short film for him?
 

Henry Bemis

just a fragment of what man has deeded to himself
Retired Staff
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As someone who hated THE WALL, I almost have to give him props for taking a shot at it.
Doug has expressed hatred for other works he seems "pretentious".
It's not that you can't take to task a concept album rock opera circa 1980 for being a bit full of itself.

But that's a little like the frog criticizing the scorpion for its sting: what did you expect?
 

PeriodicTrouble

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Procrastitara reuploaded her video about Doug because the old one got taken down for nudity.
She says this at around 1:14"their dumbass fans are being sheep as per usual" in reference to CA fans. Coming from the person who for the most part blindly repeats the not so awesome document as truth later on in this video, it just acts as a case of projection. At 27:28, Tara brings up information from the document about Pop Quiz Hotshot, but She uses this information in reference to Demo Reel even though it makes no sense at this case. At 32:49, Tara brings up the Kickassia 4chan thread with Doug thinking he's spielberg and the Walker brothers fighting on set even though Noone has verified it except Lordkat and he admitted he was trolling so that doesn't count.Tara repeats at 47:00 “if women spoke up, they were called troublemakers” part in Allison’s section of the document, which is contradicted by the CA post she did where she said “The site has had many, MANY behind the scenes issues, and ANYONE who has said anything has been labeled a troublemaker” https://archive.md/Xz0l5
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51:19 she brings up the rape joke in TBF and said the people were made to do it even though they were uncomfortable. The issue is that it was Lindsay Ellis and Lewis Louvhaug who complained about it, making it pretty hypocritical as Lindsay Ellis did the rape rap and Spooning with Spoony While Lewis masturbated to rape porn and wrote graphic rape scenes in his Angel Armor book series. 53:58 Tara says that Allison was fired for being 15 minutes late which is not the case, if you look at the skype chat as it was more the case of being 2 hours. Also Allison said that wasn’t even the reason why she was fired as it was because she argued with Mike Machaud publicly in the skype chat.https://twitter.com/tonygoldmark/status/1145611610406322177/photo/1
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56:49 repeats Jesuotaku’s section about being abused even though Jesuotaku never explained how they were abused at all, just they were abused then blackmailed CA management. Somehow this story has less credibility than the one where Sean Fausz was called a sexual cupcake, which is brought up at 57:23. 58:05 brings up Lindsay was the one of the people who were upset with the rape joke on TBF even though it’s hypocritical as she did the rape rap as Tara brings up at 42:42.

Similar to “Don’t ask questions, just enjoy product, then get excited for next product”, the mentality for anyone who believes stuff like CTC is Don’t ask questions, just believe victim as Tara just blindly regurgitates the document while barely questioning any of it for the last third of the video. I’ll give Tara credit for one thing and that is giving credit to Mister Metokur this time as she pretty much summarized his TGWTG videos for the sections on Spoony, Linkara, Latza, and Lindsay. Sorry for this very long post as this video caused me to no longer watch ProcrastiTara and I needed to get this out of my system.
 
Procrastitara reuploaded her video about Doug because the old one got taken down for nudity.
She says this at around 1:14"their dumbass fans are being sheep as per usual" in reference to CA fans. Coming from the person who for the most part blindly repeats the not so awesome document as truth later on in this video, it just acts as a case of projection. At 27:28, Tara brings up information from the document about Pop Quiz Hotshot, but She uses this information in reference to Demo Reel even though it makes no sense at this case. At 32:49, Tara brings up the Kickassia 4chan thread with Doug thinking he's spielberg and the Walker brothers fighting on set even though Noone has verified it except Lordkat and he admitted he was trolling so that doesn't count.Tara repeats at 47:00 “if women spoke up, they were called troublemakers” part in Allison’s section of the document, which is contradicted by the CA post she did where she said “The site has had many, MANY behind the scenes issues, and ANYONE who has said anything has been labeled a troublemaker” https://archive.md/Xz0l5
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51:19 she brings up the rape joke in TBF and said the people were made to do it even though they were uncomfortable. The issue is that it was Lindsay Ellis and Lewis Louvhaug who complained about it, making it pretty hypocritical as Lindsay Ellis did the rape rap and Spooning with Spoony While Lewis masturbated to rape porn and wrote graphic rape scenes in his Angel Armor book series. 53:58 Tara says that Allison was fired for being 15 minutes late which is not the case, if you look at the skype chat as it was more the case of being 2 hours. Also Allison said that wasn’t even the reason why she was fired as it was because she argued with Mike Machaud publicly in the skype chat.https://twitter.com/tonygoldmark/status/1145611610406322177/photo/1
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56:49 repeats Jesuotaku’s section about being abused even though Jesuotaku never explained how they were abused at all, just they were abused then blackmailed CA management. Somehow this story has less credibility than the one where Sean Fausz was called a sexual cupcake, which is brought up at 57:23. 58:05 brings up Lindsay was the one of the people who were upset with the rape joke on TBF even though it’s hypocritical as she did the rape rap as Tara brings up at 42:42.

Similar to “Don’t ask questions, just enjoy product, then get excited for next product”, the mentality for anyone who believes stuff like CTC is Don’t ask questions, just believe victim as Tara just blindly regurgitates the document while barely questioning any of it for the last third of the video. I’ll give Tara credit for one thing and that is giving credit to Mister Metokur this time as she pretty much summarized his TGWTG videos for the sections on Spoony, Linkara, Latza, and Lindsay. Sorry for this very long post as this video caused me to no longer watch ProcrastiTara and I needed to get this out of my system.
At this point, I feel like things like #CTC videos and document and the Kickassia 4Chan thing are only brought up with people that have axes to grind. And there’s lots of parts where that rings true.
 

PeriodicTrouble

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At this point, I feel like things like #CTC videos and document and the Kickassia 4Chan thing are only brought up with people that have axes to grind. And there’s lots of parts where that rings true.
Yeah , pretty much. I was just bothered that Tara could of double checked the claims this time, but nope the intro was the only new thing added and with that she called CA fans sheep when that wasn't really called for. It just confirmed to me that I made the right call to not watch Procrastitara again. I'm sorry for that huge post about the video as it most likely wasn't really called for and it must annoy you to hear me talk about #CTC again.
 

The Fresh Maker

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Talk about being fucking late. Everyone, literally everyone, got their licks in on that POS months ago. This nigger is 4 months late.
I wouldn't mind to much except it's incredibly obvious that Doug is doing this specifically for clout. He has no real passion for talking about these movies, especially considering he's constantly breaking character by reviewing something that isn't in anyway nostalgic (A movie that's 4 months old is not nostalgic, Nostalgia Critic). It's why he tends to re-review a lot of the stuff he's already covered in Disneycember. He just regurgitates an old script and thinks of excuses to extend the run time to 20 minutes as opposed to having any real nostalgic connection to the films.
 

sk don't care

Sociopath on the hunt for sociopaths
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IA movie that's 4 months old is not nostalgic, Nostalgia Critic
If he had any talent he'd see the easy spin off money of "Non-stalgia Critic" and make bank. Ripping into every new movie that catches his eye. That and maybe reviewing things and then writing his dumb skits around not being random shit but actually praising or taking down real issues might make him relevant again.

All of that takes talent though and an understanding of how to be creative and an understanding of films, not to mention multiple watches, taking notes, putting in work, writing scripts, finding jokes that work rather than shitting out endless festering shit.
 

Truthboi

The True and Honest Man
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Say what you will but not a single ex CA contributor has managed to do anything besides the exact same thing they were doing before or otherwise sinking into z list if even that obscurity
The only ones who have done better or at least moved on from CA that still do Youtube are Phelous, Lindsay and Enraged Enrico. Everyone else either just became a nobody, let Doug live rent free in their heads, or moved on to something else.
 

A man of no consequence

from the kingdom of Nye
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Been on YouTube since 2006 and I do shows managed to miss this guy and his troupe of strap-ons until three years ago.

None of them were/are funny or interesting. He is drilling with something that is beyond autism and makes me have a not-so-irrational rage just seeing his face.
 

Mango Unchained

Cocaine & Cocaine accessories
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Oh goodie, we've reached my lucky number in pages! Here's some random things about Doug and my watcher experience with him throughout the years:

- Still enjoying his Ernest does something reviews unironically
- Demo Reel Batman Episode is spine tingling when watched high, awkwardness ASMR Deluxe
- Between 2011 and 2014 I watched him rigorously on wednesdays begore going to the University, never suspecting anything dark behind the site or the people, although I avoided the movies
- IHE got it, Procrastitara got it, and everyone who can colour inside the lines would get the message of Garbage Pail Kids, except Doug
- The probability of Doug ripping off the Numismatic homeless man from UHF for Chester A. Bum is higher than a coicidence. He imitated the mannerisms down to a T, and I refuse to believe every homeless person sounds and talks the same.
- Glad about the fact that him, Rob and Michaud won't reproduce. Still baffled about the other fact that Doug is Italian by birth (He was born in Naples)
 

Hellbound Hellhound

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Been on YouTube since 2006 and I do shows managed to miss this guy and his troupe of strap-ons until three years ago.

None of them were/are funny or interesting. He is drilling with something that is beyond autism and makes me have a not-so-irrational rage just seeing his face.
He was only on YouTube for about a year at the beginning, since YouTube's old flagging system kept getting his videos taken down for copyright infringement. He made the lion's share of his success on Blip.tv and his own website ThatGuyWithTheGlasses, until circumstances began to change, and then migrating back to YouTube became his best option again.
 

A man of no consequence

from the kingdom of Nye
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He was only on YouTube for about a year at the beginning, since YouTube's old flagging system kept getting his videos taken down for copyright infringement. He made the lion's share of his success on Blip.tv and his own website ThatGuyWithTheGlasses, until circumstances began to change, and then migrating back to YouTube became his best option again.
Damn, I can’t go back and edit now. When I said “drilling” that was supposed to be “dripping”.
 

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