Number of people claiming to be trans? -

[Give Her The D]

I'm not talking about people who really are "trans", but I'm talking about the number of people in the US who claim to be transgender, whether they are or not, how many are there? I haven't been able to find an accurate number but it seems higher than the numbers I've been able to find. I want to know the number of people who claim to be trans, including the trenders. Is there a specific estimate on how many that might be?

 

[Franjevina]

I'm trans-nazi squirrel ... count me in .

 

[MuuMuu Bunnylips]

Depends. How much would they benefit from saying so?

That many.

 

[Clop]

I don't know how credible this is but here goes nevertheless:

Parent reports of adolescents and young adults perceived to show signs of a rapid onset of gender dysphoria

Purpose In on-line forums, parents have reported that their children seemed to experience a sudden or rapid onset of gender dysphoria, appearing for the first time during puberty or even after its completion. Parents describe that the onset of gender dysphoria seemed to occur in the context of...

journals.plos.org

There were 256 parent-completed surveys that met study criteria. The AYA children described were predominantly natal female (82.8%) with a mean age of 16.4 years at the time of survey completion and a mean age of 15.2 when they announced a transgender-identification. Per parent report, 41% of the AYAs had expressed a non-heterosexual sexual orientation before identifying as transgender.

Many (62.5%) of the AYAs had reportedly been diagnosed with at least one mental health disorder or neurodevelopmental disability prior to the onset of their gender dysphoria (range of the number of pre-existing diagnoses 0–7). In 36.8% of the friendship groups described, parent participants indicated that the majority of the members became transgender-identified. Parents reported subjective declines in their AYAs’ mental health (47.2%) and in parent-child relationships (57.3%) since the AYA “came out” and that AYAs expressed a range of behaviors that included: expressing distrust of non-transgender people (22.7%); stopping spending time with non-transgender friends (25.0%); trying to isolate themselves from their families (49.4%), and only trusting information about gender dysphoria from transgender sources (46.6%).

Most (86.7%) of the parents reported that, along with the sudden or rapid onset of gender dysphoria, their child either had an increase in their social media/internet use, belonged to a friend group in which one or multiple friends became transgender-identified during a similar timeframe, or both

 

[Atomsk]

Probably a small minority, transtrenders only really exist in uber-progressive spaces where they can actually benefit from pretending to be trans so I'd say 95% of them only exist in California.

 

[Rumpled Foreskin]

Approximately 1488

 

[RumblyTumbly]

Enough to be loud, preachy, screechy, and annoying.

 

[Snow Fox]

It breaks down like this.

It is estimated that about 0.005% to 0.014% of people assigned male at birth and 0.002% to 0.003% of people assigned female at birth would be diagnosed with gender dysphoria, based on 2013 diagnostic criteria, though this is considered a modest underestimate

Basically this is the 'medically provable' number of people with actual dysphoria. The number of people who claim to be varies.

A different survey in 2016, from the Williams Institute, estimated that 0.6% of U.S. adults identify as transgender. Studies from several nations, including the U.S., conducted at varying time periods, have produced a statistical range of 1.2 to 6.8 percent of the adult population identifying as LGBT.

It's easier to just put it like this.
80% of people who claim trans status are doing it for attention/profit/whatever social/political gain.
10% are doing it due to genuine confusion caused by a social media upbringing.
9% are doing it because it's been forced upon them. Either by an overbearing/abusive parent or family member. (Desmond is Amazing, as an example.)
And the last 1% or less have a genuine mental health condition.
Edit: By 'Genuine Mental Health Condition' I mean actual dysphoria.

 

[NerdShamer]

It breaks down like this.



Basically this is the 'medically provable' number of people with actual dysphoria. The number of people who claim to be varies.


It's easier to just put it like this.
80% of people who claim trans status are doing it for attention/profit/whatever social/political gain.
10% are doing it due to genuine confusion caused by a social media upbringing.
9% are doing it because it's been forced upon them. Either by an overbearing/abusive parent or family member. (Desmond is Amazing, as an example.)
And the last 1% or less have a genuine mental health condition.

I think the mental health thing could've been a little bit higher. I mean, you can still be profiting from trooning out and have something completely unrelated to it, an persecution complex that Brianna Wu falls upon.

 

[Give Her The D]

It breaks down like this.



Basically this is the 'medically provable' number of people with actual dysphoria. The number of people who claim to be varies.


It's easier to just put it like this.
80% of people who claim trans status are doing it for attention/profit/whatever social/political gain.
10% are doing it due to genuine confusion caused by a social media upbringing.
9% are doing it because it's been forced upon them. Either by an overbearing/abusive parent or family member. (Desmond is Amazing, as an example.)
And the last 1% or less have a genuine mental health condition.

I understand that, yeah. There are people who are medically transgender (that their transness can be proven with a medical diagnosis), albeit a small percentage. I'm more thinking of if you add in the people who claim to be. It seems so much higher if you add that in.

 

[Captain Fitzbattleaxe]

Oh, for fucks sake stop with this "true trans" bullshit. Someone who claims to be the other gender because of dysphoria is just as stupid and wrong as someone who does it because of any other reasons.

As for how many claim to be trans, I remember reading that around 0.03% of the population identified as a gender that they were not born as. Though, that was quite a few years ago and it wouldn't surprise me if that number was higher nowadays.

 

[Your Average Soyboy]

I don't know how credible this is but here goes nevertheless:

Parent reports of adolescents and young adults perceived to show signs of a rapid onset of gender dysphoria

Purpose In on-line forums, parents have reported that their children seemed to experience a sudden or rapid onset of gender dysphoria, appearing for the first time during puberty or even after its completion. Parents describe that the onset of gender dysphoria seemed to occur in the context of...

journals.plos.org

PLOS itself is legit, however I'd argue that this study isn't worth all that much since it's basically just an anonymous SurveyMonkey poll given to users of three websites (one of which is inaccessible, at least for me) with mission statements that boil down to questioning the transgender narrative. Given this, I'd imagine that there would be a decent sampling bias towards parents who already have a negative view towards transgenderism, although this is a pretty surefire way of finding parents of transgender teenagers, which I would imagine to be a very small population. This isn't to say that I agree with the transgender narrative, just that I believe this specific study isn't really worth much.

If this study is accurate, however, then the behaviors mentioned are incredibly worrying and are similar to those of a brainwashed cult member (lowered desire to talk with those outside of the cult, only trusting cult-approved information, etc.).

 

[Clop]

PLOS itself is legit, however I'd argue that this study isn't worth all that much since it's basically just an anonymous SurveyMonkey poll given to users of three websites (one of which is inaccessible, at least for me) with mission statements that boil down to questioning the transgender narrative. Given this, I'd imagine that there would be a decent sampling bias towards parents who already have a negative view towards transgenderism, although this is a pretty surefire way of finding parents of transgender teenagers, which I would imagine to be a very small population. This isn't to say that I agree with the transgender narrative, just that I believe this specific study isn't really worth much.

If this study is accurate, however, then the behaviors mentioned are incredibly worrying and are similar to those of a brainwashed cult member (lowered desire to talk with those outside of the cult, only trusting cult-approved information, etc.).

Yes, it's pretty puny. The size alone is something I'd bin it for if I'd found anything else.

I'm not finding it unlikely that teenagers keep monkeying off the Internet and each other, though. I also trust kids to drop that shit as soon as they grow up, but if they happen to go along just long enough to start popping pills and demanding surgery, then it's a bit more severe than getting a tattoo.

It has been a few years now, and it's baffling that a proper large study hasn't come out on this fad, there's no way nobody has shown interest unless they know what a career suicide it would be.

 

[Emperor Julian]

it's a bit of a grey area, while the presence of trenders complicates the issue. Their's also the issue of closet cases where someone might have either mild dysphoria within tolerable boundries or simply keeps the whole thing locked down-calculating that social alienation and multiple painful medical processes are not worth the effort if you'll never pass anyway. I occasionally wonder if some of angryer anti-trans online people are secretly suffering intensly.

Trying to figure out how many people are transgendered is like trying to guestimate how many people day dream about any act which would have major social ramifications. How many Gay people in medieval Europe? How many Atheists in Constantinople?

Conversly I get the impression a lot of transgenders online front as woman and avoid the idea of trans as a concept.

Tldr-don't know impossible to tell.

 

[Fartwhistle]

it wouldn't surprise me if that number was higher nowadays.

Alex Jones wasn't wrong about the chemicals making the frogs gay. He was imprecise.

 

[nonvir_1984]

I want to say 666. But that is cheap. It is not really knowable because at best it is a specific time and:
- some people revert, or move on to the next thing like being a little pony or something;
- some people are faking it for whatever reasons.
- some people are just saying is for fun or so they can wear a dress or grow a beard
But the answer is probably too many.

 

[Manwithn0n0men]

Oh, for fucks sake stop with this "true trans" bullshit. Someone who claims to be the other gender because of dysphoria is just as stupid and wrong as someone who does it because of any other reasons.

As for how many claim to be trans, I remember reading that around 0.03% of the population identified as a gender that they were not born as. Though, that was quite a few years ago and it wouldn't surprise me if that number was higher nowadays.

Its higher in Middle and HS but normalizes to .03% after college

 

[Wilhelm Bittrich]

Number of people claiming to be trans?

Enough for a Einsatzgruppe I would assume.

 

[Autumnal Equinox]

Actual trans people who really have/are struggling with dysphoria I have nothing against. There is such a thing as transtrenders though, and the progtard types always chimp out when you bring it up.

It's nothing new, certain people always latch on to what's popular or edgy to try and fit in. When I was in high school, we had a ton of white kids acting like they were black. When my brother was in high school, he said a bunch of kids were pretending to be gay. If it's making news or causing people to pearl clutch, younger people will adopt it to rebel.

I'm sure the black kids got tired of the white kids acting like shuckin n jivin stereotypes, and I'm sure the actual gay kids got tired of the straight kids acting like prancing lisping faggots. The actual trans people trying to just live their lives are probably sick of the screeching Tumblr troons.

I'm sure there are more people claiming to be trans now because they've been the big news now since the gays are no longer relevant as far as news and civil matters goes.

 

[DDBCAE CBAADCBE]

We used to call them Trans Trenders back in ye olden times.