Containment Official Decision Regarding Gender and Chris/Gender Discussion Megathread -

[Mariposa Electrique]

He was always Christine you biggot.

No, he's a nigger on the inside and faggot on the outside.

 

[ToroidalBoat]

Classic CWC > Current Year "Pristine Christine Night Star Blue Heart"

 

[StraightShooter2]

I was watching the newest episode of A Comprehensive History and, as on every episode, I saw a comment that was reminiscing on the good old days when Chris was a harmless goofball that just liked Sonic and lamented how they now only felt a bitter anger towards him.

Upon seeing this comment, I really did think about how Christian and Christine are two-sides of the same coin. Much like Walter White and Heisenberg, Christian and Christine share many traits that Christian always had but Christine expresses with no regard: Christian always had an ego but he was never a deity, Christian was bad with money but didn’t beg for scraps, Christian was reckless but he’d never gouge himself with a razor blade.

Some people think that Walter White irrnversably became Heisenberg after taking his first life, others think it was when he no longer needed to cook but kept doing it, some people think that there was no Walter White and that Heisenberg simply found an opportunity to act freely. A similar debate, I feel, could be held for Chris.

When did the silly, naïve, fag-hating Christian forever become the sad, deluded, SLGBTQ-supporting Christine? Was it when he first brought his violent threats into reality by purposefully spraying the GameStop employee? Maybe when Bob died, he lost the only chain that was restraining him from giving in to Naitsirhc’s homosexual desires. Perhaps, one heart-shartering too many caused him to give up on being a nice virgin boy in a world full of jerks.

Discuss.

I disagree.

It was the start of the Love Quest which kind of marked the transition from "nice, harmless goofball" towards what he is now (e.x. he got booted out of college by Mary Lee Walsh for the "Attraction Sign", and then all of his behavior elsewhere also took a nosedive).

And some of the worst stuff (such as hitting the GamePlace manager with his car and almost getting charged with a felony; the creeping on Megan Schroeder and the porn he drew, etc) happened when he was still Chris.

 

[Badonkadonk Trash]

The fuck you talkin' about?

 

[No Exit]

The cracks probably started after Patti died and then with Bob's death he neither had someone to tell him no or anyone to help him cope. I wouldn't be surprised if after Barb finally croaks he becomes some other person. I would be surprised but wouldn't put it past him to become Christopher afterwards.

 

[Ted_Breakfast]

He's still Chris, the only difference is now his shirts are even tighter and he has hair like a Whitesnake roadie.

 

[Bastard_Call]

I find it strange when people mired in CWC drama get mad at you for "dead-naming" Chris. First of all, you're more than happy to laugh at an actual retarded person but disrespecting his chosen gender? That's really where you draw the line? The most common response I get to this is that they don't laugh at Chris, they only follow his antics because they find his life fascinating. A great way to admit that he's a sideshow freak to you and still keep a clear conscience.

Secondly, anyone who looks at Chris and thinks "Yeah, that guy has the mental faculties to decide whether he's a man or a woman" betrays the entire transgender movement as basically indulging in the fantasies of the mentally ill. He believes Sonichu is real, do you think he's in a position to claim with any legitimacy that he's a woman?

I saw a comment that was reminiscing on the good old days when Chris was a harmless goofball that just liked Sonic and lamented how they now only felt a bitter anger towards him.

I FEEL DISLIKE TOWARD YOU

 

[Bassomatic]

Eh, OP probably is a fucking retard but this is a decent idea, of when did Chris get into tom girl shit, vs when he said so.

 

[Soynificent]

Chris hated guys with a passion, mostly out of jealousy but he probably finds men genuinely unappealing. The whole tranny thing seemed like a ploy to distance himself from men as a whole which was also his high IQ move to attempt to secure some pussy.

Yep. He's said as much. He sees other men as competition, although his transition into a "Trans-lesbian" is probably a product of the internet and his autism warping his self-image.

 

[Shabobus]

Being confronted over and over again by his fake internet girlfriends (and other trolls) about spending all his time and money on video games and toys probably made him realize, however dimly, that being a nerdy manchild is frowned upon. His solution wasn't to change his habits, it was to reinvent his identity. He wouldn't be a geeky manchild, he would be a flirty, sexy tomgirl/male lesbian/trans woman/goddess. Even by the time he started publicly crossdressing, it seems like he'd lost interest in a lot of what he held dear about his old identity. His comic had been interfered with by outsiders, none of his e-girls were impressed with his lego city, he had been publicly humiliated countless times. In his own words, before he started saying he had always been a "female soul" or whatever, he complained that everything in his life had been corrupted by trolls. He was at a low point in his self-esteem and it opened the door to trying to change who he was.

Becoming Christine seems more like an attempt to run away from his past than anything else. Add it to his autism and his longstanding gender issues that have been discussed ad nauseum (cross dressing, hating men, etc.), and we have the transdimensional goddess Chris we know today.

 

[The American Hedgehog]

Secondly, anyone who looks at Chris and thinks "Yeah, that guy has the mental faculties to decide whether he's a man or a woman" betrays the entire transgender movement as basically indulging in the fantasies of the mentally ill. He believes Sonichu is real, do you think he's in a position to claim with any legitimacy that he's a woman?

Transgenderism and believing in imaginary friends are both forms of delusion to cope with psychological issues.

 

[Terrorist]

Cross-posting from the Vintologi thread in prospering grounds: CWC's article on the Incel wiki has an...interesting take on Chris's gender issues. It appears to be written by an advocate of transmaxxing, the idea that incels should troon out to escape their inceldom. In the eternal question of "Is Chris getting better?", their answer is an emphatic "Yes" because Chris is no longer a MALE JERK. Let's dive in:

Chris-chan, nowadays known as 'Christine Weston Chandler' after gender identity change, is a well known cartoonist, fabulist, incel, and bully victim. Her entire life post 2008ish is documented by Kiwi Farms and other transphobic wikis and sites.

Long story short, a huge internet mob of thousands of people bullied Christine because Christine had trouble living up to male gender roles, so he eventually just decided to become a woman to end the hell, and now she gets thousands per year in Patreon money.

• >she
• Chris wasn't trolled because Chris was a sissy or a beta male. He was trolled for being a lolcow.
• It's true that he failed to live up to male gender roles, by being an autistic manchild and pathetic failure in life, but good luck convincing incels that sort of behavior merits ridicule and we'd still be hunter-gatherers if men weren't pressured to achieve.
• There were no masculine expectations he was made to conform to. Borb made it so that he grew into an adult autistic child. Would he have turned out better if he was coddled even more? I fucking doubt it!
• Trooning out didn't stop the trolling, as we saw with the Idea Guys, Teen Troon Squad, etc. You could argue it opened up a new aspect of vulnerability for people to exploit.
• Chris earns thousands per year off SSDI too. Real big wheel at the Sonichu factory!
• Weens were always willing to give Chris money for nothing. If Patreon was around in the time of Classic Chris, he would've been on there. It has fuck all to do with the troonout.

Outside of the bullies, Christine has developed a "loving" cult following and Christine's ouvre/mentality has been accurately compared to giants such as 1960s counterculture hero Robert Crumb.

Nobody's arguing Crumb wasn't a weird fucker, but a subculture formed around Chris to gawk at him, not admire him like people admire Crumb as an artist despite his eccentricities.

Christine is an uber-nerd with moderately severe autistic traits who has had multiple dates and has been laid at least twice in her entire adult life.

Multiple dates set up by trolls, and laid once by a hooker. Are we counting Magi-chan as a lay?

Christine at one point got a piercing on her taint which became infected. Later as the infection developed, her taint rejected the piercing. Christine was listening to a 'binaural beats' youtube video meant to hypnotize someone until their penis turns into a vagina. Christine thought she was growing a vagina and showed off her possibly infected taint gash on Facebook as her new vagina. People were quick to worry, as many people care for Christine and make a point to watch out for her, and a few non-evil people made sure she went to the ER. Christine later said it was a 'prank'

I think that whole episode kinda undermines the thesis of Chris being better off as a tomgirl, but maybe I'm just too poisoned by feminist propaganda to know any better.

Christine is unemployed and lives with a parent. Despite experiencing the usual downs of modern life, Christine seems to be a happy person who finds fulfilment in her hobbies. She accidentally started a fire in one of her parents' homes, which made the local news. She and her Mom also went to court once for an incident involving:

In severe debt, going to court for multiple assaults, burned own house down due to hoarding, mutilated taint, complete dissociation from reality, believes in alternate cartoon dimensions, extorted and traumatized by weens...yep, seems happy and fulfilled to me. Life as a femoid is such easy mode amirite?

Despite suffering from social rejection in her younger years, she now has a small group of friends. Christine regularly leaves her house to socialize and attend local events, and has been welcomed into the LGBT community.

The only claim that's somewhat true in this abortion is that Chris gained a social life in the gay scene. But they only tolerated him out of pity and severed once he got too weird for them. Chris has had "friend" groups like this periodically for his entire MALE life, from the Galpals to the Pokemon leagues. All have ended the same way and none were genuine or lasting. It's not at all the case that this lonely outcast was suddenly given attention once he started IDing as female.

In retrospect, she should have just joined the LGBT community as a straight man LARPing as a non-binary or something.

That's just it: Chris doesn't pass as female, so even by its own retarded logic the article falls apart. Nobody considers Chris a girl (this is true for most trannies, but especially Chris). Not even the Rat Kings seem to want him. For all intents and purposes he's still an obviously autistic man, even more obviously than before with his garish new look.

On the surface, these people seem to envy Chris, and consider him a success story. Or do they? The article gets so many basic facts wrong that I'm skeptical it was written in good faith. It could easily be they don't believe what they're saying and "transmaxxing" is a ploy to groom incels into fetish roleplay discords rather than cure them of inceldom. It'd be like a sexual pyramid scheme, where only the top few perverts profit while preying on the suckers below them. "Make another guy the GF" isn't too far from "become the GF". From what little we know about Vintologi's transmaxxing community, grooming is a big element.

Another thing: Chris's motivations in the early tomgirl era were probably something like this. He wanted to become a lesbian to get action he couldn't get as a male and live life on "easy mode". Eventually he came to believe it due to his weak grasp on reality, and went fully off the deep end. I don't think it's a coincidence that the Dimensional Merge shit came right after his binaural beats delusions.

To any incel who is thinking about trooning out: Don't, because you will end up like Chris whether you want to admit it or not. Your shitty life right now is far preferable to that fate.

 

[AnOminous]

On the surface, these people seem to envy Chris, and consider him a success story.

There is one reason they should envy Chris. He isn't an incel. He may not have sex, but he isn't a self-loathing blackpilled asshole who constantly spews bile and hatred at everyone. He paid to have sex once, was just not impressed with it, and then sunk into his own bizarre fantasy world.

I don't think he lives a very enviable life or is genuinely happy, but given the choice between being transmogrified into Chris or into an incel it's a no-brainer, I'd be Chris any day before one of those vat-grown identical Elliott Rodger worshipping losers.

 

[Coelacanth]

My personal thoughts on the matter is that Chris is a guy and he's just acting this way to get laid and get validation due to the more politically charged nature social media has nowadays.

If you want to refer to him as a she then fine, you do you, but I feel that giving in to his demands to be known as a woman only affirms his delusions about getting what he wants and making them worse.

 

[Owlman3]

My personal thoughts on the matter is that Chris is a guy and he's just acting this way to get laid and get validation due to the more politically charged nature social media has nowadays.

If you want to refer to him as a she then fine, you do you, but I feel that giving in to his demands to be known as a woman only affirms his delusions about getting what he wants and making them worse.

Y’know, I’ve never liked the idea of Chris pretending to be a girl to get chicks. I mean, you’d have to have a very narrow interests in people like:
-Autistic
-Nerdy
-Poor Diet
-Barely any friends or family
-No real academic achievements

Barely any girls are into that, and to add being a lesbian woman on top of it would make it next to impossible.

But then again, if Chris can cut their taint open in order to free their vagina, I guess anything is possible.

 

[A_Rotten_Sharwama]

My personal thoughts on the matter is that Chris is a guy and he's just acting this way to get laid and get validation due to the more politically charged nature social media has nowadays.

If you want to refer to him as a she then fine, you do you, but I feel that giving in to his demands to be known as a woman only affirms his delusions about getting what he wants and making them worse.

Y’know, I’ve never liked the idea of Chris pretending to be a girl to get chicks. I mean, you’d have to have a very narrow interests in people like:
-Autistic
-Nerdy
-Poor Diet
-Barely any friends or family
-No real academic achievements

Barely any girl are into that, and to add being a lesbian woman on top of it would make it next to impossible.

But then again, if Chris can cut their taint open in order to free their vagina, I guess anything is possible.

You've underestimated the power of Chris's brilliance, this is the guy who drew and released ShecameforCWC.JPG.

However, even if Chris's original intention was to trick girls into lesbian sex, from the hypnotic music to taint wound, not to mention HRT just NUKES sex drive, Chris is definitely believe in being a woman now.