Official Election 2020 Doomsday Thread -

[JaneThough]

No what I am saying is you should already have an ID and because you should already have an ID for everyday transactions and interactions. It's not a poll tax because as I said before A state issued or federal Identification card is not exclusively required just for voting. It would be a poll tax if you had to pay for an ID to exclusively use only for Voting. And yes although Identification is Required. There is an exception to this called a contested ballot. Because in most States you can't turn somebody away from voting even if they're too stupid to have an ID on them or proof of address.
Hopefully this clears it up for you


Grammer is racist

And not everyone has an ID. So your point is moot.

 

[3119967d0c]

Hey thanks. Tight ship NYU is running on their web presence.

So this is a complete garbage study. Such trash that I can refute the entire thing point by point. Before I do let me point out that this school has put a banner at the top of its site with the text:

Democracy won at the ballot box, but our fight is far from over.

If that is their stance then this school is obviously led by political activists with a clear bias. Okay, moving on:



First off, that's .1563% of American adults. It doesn't try to claim those adults don't have ID, just that it may be inconvenient for them. It's a lot more inconvenient to be poor and not have an ID to get welfare with, so this falls totally flat on its face. Rural areas do not have "dwindling public transportion options," in fact there are more options than ever. I am at a Cabin in the woods 25 minutes from the nearest town with a grocery store. I can order an uber here.



This isn't a second point it's just a rehashing of the first one.



This is really a third rehashing of the first point but with a racial tone. People of color at the same income level have the same options available to them as anyone else. This is really just a takedown of minorities. It's irrelevant.

And the final summary bullet point:



Sauk City, Wisconsin is a completely white town. It has a population of 3k and has NINETY-FOUR minorities in it. A tiny town has limited government resources. Shocker. They then try to link this 97% white town to other unrelated towns with minorities which is a logical fallacy. This is not the type of argument a scientific study should ever make. There is no scientific rigor here.

This is a shit study. It's not shit because the data collection is flawed, it's shit because it uses weak arguments to back up a pre-defined conclusion. It fails to make its case on the merits of the numbers. But that's fine that isn't why it exists.

It exists so that propaganda heads on TV and lefty numbnuts on internet forums can say "NYU proves voter ID disenfranchises voters" which is a huge leap from the actual conclusions of the study which is "a tiny percentage of Americans find it inconvenient to get to the DMV"

This facts in this study do not back up the notion that we should remove authentication from our elections. Politics is the biggest zero-sum game in the entire human race and there is an absolutely immense incentive to cheat.

EDIT: I also want to point out that it's really weird they went and dug up a bunch of stats online and strung them together to try and build this narrative. Wouldn't it have been easier to just contact the DMV offices in these places and get actual facts on registration numbers? I find it hard to believe a DMV would be unwilling to provide a simple top-line number as a courtesy to a scientific study. They didn't do that, and they didn't even interview anyone. A sample size of zero. Brilliant.

lol imagine being a conservative complaining about imaginary 'voter fraud' and complaining about 'a bunch of numbers strung together'

 

[Hippopatumus]

lol imagine being a conservative complaining about imaginary 'voter fraud' and complaining about 'a bunch of numbers strung together'

You don't have a rebuttal to any of the things I said.

Because this is you:

 

[Gezkill]

Imagine being a conservative believing in states rights.

Then you cheer when Texas sues another state because they want to hold there elections how they see fit.

 

[big ups liquid richard]

Imagine being a conservative believing in states rights.

Then you cheer when Texas sues another state because they want to hold there elections how they see fit.

If it weren't for double standards, there would be no standards at all...

 

[Frapton66]

https://www.twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1340185773220515840

By gorge it happened, it will happen on the 6th.

 

[Random Internet Person]

https://www.twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1340185773220515840

By gorge it happened, it will happen on the 6th.

That’s assuming things aren’t censored it diluted to nothingness. Nobody has been willing to stand in Trump’s corner. I can’t be optimistic.

 

[Maradontia]

https://www.twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1340185773220515840

By gorge it happened, it will happen on the 6th.

In Republican land, no one ever loses fair and square. Every election is stolen by the liberal Democrats.

No mass shooting ever happens. They were all staged by the Deep State with crisis actors to ban guns.

No plague is ever dangerous. The death toll is overblown by the government to take away people's freedoms.

 

[Random Internet Person]

In Republican land, no one ever loses fair and square. Every election is stolen by the liberal Democrats.

No mass shooting ever happens. They were all staged by the Deep State with crisis actors to ban guns.

No plague is ever dangerous. The death toll is overblown by the government to take away people's freedoms.

How much InfoWars have you watched?

 

[Maradontia]

How much InfoWars have you watched?

You're their all time best subscriber.

 

[Random Internet Person]

You're their all time best subscriber.

Except I don’t see every mass shooting as a false flag.

 

[Maradontia]

Except I don’t see every mass shooting as a false flag.

But you do think the government wants to put Trump supporters in camps. That's one of Alex Jones' greatest hits, I believe going back to the Bush era. You're in his tinfoil hat club.

 

[Random Internet Person]

But you do think the government wants to put Trump supporters in camps. That's one of Alex Jones' greatest hits, I believe going back to the Bush era. You're in his tinfoil hat club.

And I'll happy to see if that doesn't happen. And honestly. only the super progressives want to do that, unless Pelosi can be fed a good PR hook for it. But a part of me has my doubts.

 

[DeadFish]

And I'll happy to see if that doesn't happen. And honestly. only the super progressives want to do that, unless Pelosi can be fed a good PR hook for it. But a part of me has my doubts.

If you think youre damned then go do something like pray to god, play video games or something.

Sitting here and doom posting does nothing.

Aint healthy

 

[Random Internet Person]

If you think youre damned then go do something like pray to god, play video games or something.

Sitting here and doom posting does nothing.

Aint healthy

I just want 1/20 to come. And for the CCP to have a long fuse.

 

[ZeroCool]

Get the fuck out of here with this dumb fucking smooth brained retardation. Third world countries ID people at the fucking polls because not even they are this fucking retarded. The bar to bring an ID to participate is democracy is so low that literally the only reason dipshits like you argue against it is because deep down YOU FUCKING KNOW it leads to fraud but you seem to think only your team is going to cheat so the ends justify the means.

"Voter impersonation is extremely rare" mother fucker how are you suppose to prove that. Shut the fuck up.

The facts show that these laws disproportionately affect low-income individuals, racial and ethnic minorities, the elderly and people with disabilities. These voters are more likely to have difficulty obtaining an ID due to cost and the inability to obtain the requisite documents required for a government issued ID

Republicans know that more people voting means more Democrats winning so they continue to push for tighter restrictions. If you are going to manadate IDs, then you should provide a fund for those who require assistance obtaining an ID.

 

[Alba gu brath]

And I'll happy to see if that doesn't happen. And honestly. only the super progressives want to do that, unless Pelosi can be fed a good PR hook for it. But a part of me has my doubts.

The idea that the centrist Dems would even give the idea a thought is just so laughably retarded. They're happy where things are, keep the donations rolling, keep giving out the empty valueless promises here and there. The only real difference between a Dem politician and a Republican one, one wants ya to use some daft pronoun, the other throws a hissy fit over it. Complete worry over nothing there, mate. Give yourself some peace of mind on that one.

 

[NyQuilninja]

And not everyone has an ID. So your point is moot.

It is nearly impossible for you not to have an Id as an adult. You would have to go out of your way not to have one or have one paid for you.
And that still doesn't stop you from voting. so point still stands. Voting without it identification card increases registry errors and increases voter fraud

The facts show that these laws disproportionately affect low-income individuals, racial and ethnic minorities, the elderly and people with disabilities. These voters are more likely to have difficulty obtaining an ID due to cost and the inability to obtain the requisite documents required for a government issued ID

Republicans know that more people voting means more Democrats winning so they continue to push for tighter restrictions. If you are going to manadate IDs, then you should provide a fund for those who require assistance obtaining an ID.

Bullshit. You need an ID to get welfare Hud housing and any other federal and local state assistance.
For fuck sake it's not a barrier to get an ID. Catholic charities
Salvation Army
The Christian ministries Alliance
Various state work and rehabilitation programs.
Your local department of human services. I've even known homeless shelters and Community action agencies for pay it. Varys from state to state. But there is quite a few Charities and organizations as well as state and local Government agencies that will pay for it.

 

[Random Internet Person]

The idea that the centrist Dems would even give the idea a thought is just so laughably retarded. They're happy where things are, keep the donations rolling, keep giving out the empty valueless promises here and there. The only real difference between a Dem politician and a Republican one, one wants ya to use some daft pronoun, the other throws a hissy fit over it. Complete worry over nothing there, mate. Give yourself some peace of mind on that one.

Except, the progressives feel emboldened now that Trump is on his way out. Everything we saw this summer there's a chance that it'll go into overdrive now that they won an election. And then there's China who isn't as content as American politicians are.

 

[Alba gu brath]

Except, the progressives feel emboldened now that Trump is on his way out. Everything we saw this summer there's a chance that it'll go into overdrive now that they won an election. And then there's China who isn't as content as American politicians are.

They can 'feel' all the want, but till they actually have a majority of their like elected, till the out the old guard like Pelosi and so on. Hell, then you'd need to make sure the supreme court was on their side, and that sure as hell isn't going to be likely. Take into consideration that the right are going to be mad as hell for the next two years, and when the midterms roll in, what'd ya bet they storm the voting, like they do every mid? Again, hell. Biden even if he did win, couldn't make a dent against the gerrymandering that the Senate and Congress have had done to them. So, no. No camps coming up soon, it's purely silliness at its height of thought.