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HomerSimpson

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So then still not real people? Just the top mega corporations, like Disney, Apple, etc. like you said? Who are already known to be shady because they stand to make billions?

Good job, I mean really, because billionaires doing what makes them money is TOTALLY representative of the thoughts and feelings of average citizens.
You mean the people who happily buy up their products without thought or concern? The ones who heard about child slave labour making nikes, then went out and bought a pair? They are complicit. It wouldn't be so bad if the mark up wasn't so high in all honesty.
"Products" and the end result of what?
The difference being apple using chinese slave labour to make phones vs blizzard saying a character is straight in china but gay in the west, because china doesn't want a gay character. Or changing the name and origin of a character because it upsets china. Like the Ancient one in Doctor Strange. Supposed to be a tibetan monk.
Education is centrally planned to, and the textbooks referred to China as "Socialist Democracy", so your based teacher was going off-script.
Maybe it was just because that's how it was. We were learning about history and the cold war, and the teacher made sure to remind us that china was a communist country. At least they don't hide it now with the CCP.
 

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Being the first across no man's land and meat shields for more valued units doesn't make you the best. It makes you expendable. Lapping up false praise from the government that exploited you to ensure it's own citizens came home is pure cope.




No, dummy. The purpose was twofold, and neither is because colonists make good fighters.

1. Send colonists to front lines. Proper citizens get held back and survive while expendable colonials die for the mother state.

2. The more colonists that die, the weaker the colony becomes, preventing uprisings or independence.

Cope harder, pussy. Canadians were sent to the front lines because the English officers viewed them an a commodity and less than people.




Because Canada is an effective proxy for America. When the US wouldn't negotiate with the Viet Cong, who did it for them? Canada. When the US "wouldn't negotiate with terrorists" and talk to the Taliban, who did it for them? Canada. What country has always been the intermediary in talking to Iran? Canada.

And when it comes to the UN, keeping Canada around is like having a retarded child that's old enough to vote. We basically give the US two votes on all issues.



No they wouldn't. Are you on drugs? People go the US because the pay is better (it always will be), cost of living is lower (it always will be) taxes are lower (they always will be) and there's better opportunity for their children (always will be). We rely on America to send people to fill the gaps created by the brain drain. The shitty refugees we bring in certainly won't, and we don't have a high enough birth rate to do it ourselves, unlike eastern Europe.



The central planning of the Canadian economy is what drives up the cost of living for Canadians. In all areas. Central planning fixes prices so Canadians have to pay more for goods, and simultaneously increases taxes in order to compensate all of the superfluous government bureaucrats that are employed by these Byzantine practices.



When's that gonna begin? Because currently, Canadians drive American cars while listening to American music and driving to theaters to watch American films, or driving to American stores to buy American goods. At home, Canadians watch American programming on American channels while using American or Chinese devices to access American content on American websites and speaking American English.

Sure sounds like we've got our own culture to me!



lol WHAT?

Socialism is anytime you have central planning.
The practice of Supply Chain Management in Dairy and Poultry is central planning.
The CRTC regulating how many cellular service providers are active in Canada and the MINIMUM charges for service is central planning.
THE CRTC mandating minimum levels of "Canadian Content" on radio and television is central planning.
The CRTC regulating how many news papers operate in Canada is central planning.
The Federal government distributing funding to the media as long as the publish enough propaganda is central planning.
The existence of the CBC is central planning.
The National Energy Board, which regulates what times of energy Canada produces and what infrastructure is built where, is central planning.
The National Wheat Board, the supply chain management of agriculture, is central planning.

That's sure a lot of socialism going on for a country that's not socialist.
dude, there's so many bad takes in here that it's hard to wrap my head around it. It would just be a lot easier for you to just admit that you blindly hate Canada and move on. Read a book or something, even watch fucking youtube "journalists" like Caspian report.
But, to address the last part about socialism, by that definition you'll have to define literally every European country including Russia as socialist, as well as California and New York. There's a difference between interventionism and socialism, and it's a pretty big difference.
 

BadTakeCrucifier

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You mean the people who happily buy up their products without thought or concern? The ones who heard about child slave labour making nikes, then went out and bought a pair? They are complicit. It wouldn't be so bad if the mark up wasn't so high in all honesty.
This is just a dumb point because it implies the aspect isn't hidden from the public--It works because a lot of people just don't know how bad it is.

Do you think these companies are honest? LOL. Do you think the media is honest...? This is the same media that spent 5 months saying it's racist to blame the CCP for not announcing COVID-19 sooner. This is the same media that used George Floyd's death for the last 3 months, as a political brownie points/click-bait mill, but has been radio silent about police brutality in China, the Hong Kong protests, and the CCP's crimes.

Are you seriously this stupid?

It would just be a lot easier for you to just admit that you blindly hate Canada and move on.
dude just admit you blindly hate America and move on
 

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dude just admit you blindly hate America and move on
I can count the bad things I said about America on one hand, and most of the things I said were non-serious like when said something like: "it's hard not to look down on Americans when this the best they've got." while I can recall many slanderous and outright false remarks made against Canada.
You just can't accept that there's anything good with Canada, you hold a purely ideological position which can't be reasoned with.
 

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Jesus, there’s some heavy faggotry in this thread!


As someone who has travelled extensively in both countries, I’ll give you my take on the whole US vs. Canada thing.


Are Canadians smug, pricks who hate Americans? Not out in the countryside, but in big cities like Toronto, you definitely see a lot of that.

Much of it comes down to insecurity.

Canada is a small country that has a giant of a neighbor that’s culturally extremely similar, speaks the same language and is kind of a big deal.

(True, Canada might punch above your weight in some respects, but it has less than half the population of Germany. Basically, when bad shit happens on another continent, nobody says: “Hold up, what do the Canadians think?!”)


So the natural reaction of some Canadians is to get smug over stupid and minor shit like their healthcare system: “We’re totally not Americans despite the obvious similarities. We have socialized healthcare and our McDonalds’ have a little maple leaf, see!”


But hey, you know what Canadians and Americans have in common? They’re both well liked and respected abroad.


“Bu-But Trump! Bu-But Trudeau!”

Literally nobody cares about that shit.

Regular people didn’t give a shit about Obama being president, and they don’t care about Trump. (Or Trudeau for that matter.)

The only exception are anti American fucktards who’d find something else to be smug about if not Trump.


You just can't accept that there's anything good with Canada, you hold a purely ideological position which can't be reasoned with.
Meh, there are plenty of good things about Canada but BadTake has some good points too.

Your healthcare system sucks though. The fact that (most) doctor(s) can’t run a private practice but has to go through the government cartel is straight up Stalinist-tier BS.
 
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BadTakeCrucifier

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Are Canadians smug, pricks who hate Americans? Not out in the countryside, but in big cities like Toronto, you definitely see a lot of that.
Also, according to a 2014 BBC World Service Poll, 86% of Americans view Canada's influence positively, with only 5% expressing a negative view. However, according to the same poll, 43% of Canadians view U.S. influence positively, with 52% expressing a negative view.[20] In addition, according to Spring 2017 Global Attitudes Survey, 43% of Canadians view U.S. positively, while 51% hold a negative view.[21] More recently, however, a poll in January 2018 showed Canadians' approval of U.S. leadership dropped by over 40 percentage points under President Donald Trump, in line with the view of residents of many other U.S. allied and neutral countries.[22]
The thing about the smugness nitpick is it is objectively true, which is why we're talking about it. Was part of how this discussion started, in the other thread, when I cross-posted it over here.

We can comb over the fine points of the of both countries and find things that are valid criticisms, but ultimately out of the control of the average person; it is gonna get to be geopolitical one-ups-manship after a point. What's more relevant here, is how those huge abstract issues things are being perceived in cultural identity.

The way this thread is going is, uh, kinda confirming the smugness stereotype in my mind.
 

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Ontario had to move last call to 0200 because of the frogs. Piles of dickheads in the Ottawa area would go over the rover and drink to 0300. Moving last call to 0200 stopped most of the drunk driving.
Same thing happens in dry counties, they and the neighbouring counties end up having way higher incidences of drunk driving, making it more dangerous for everyone.
 

doulomb

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No, dummy. The purpose was twofold, and neither is because colonists make good fighters.
1. Send colonists to front lines. Proper citizens get held back and survive while expendable colonials die for the mother state.
2. The more colonists that die, the weaker the colony becomes, preventing uprisings or independence.
Cope harder, pussy. Canadians were sent to the front lines because the English officers viewed them an a commodity and less than people.
Agree, but at the same time I will say that Canadians were known for being more brutal and more aggressive, which can be chalked up to the fact that they were not able to take the ferry back home like Brits were. Canadians had a very real incentive to get the job done so they could go back home. That said Canada cucked out and stopped being that nation a long time ago.

Anyways, without getting too personal, I get the feeling that most of the defensive posturing I'm seeing in this thread by my countrymen is coming from the same attitude I was attempting to identify in my original post.
 

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No, dummy. The purpose was twofold, and neither is because colonists make good fighters.

1. Send colonists to front lines. Proper citizens get held back and survive while expendable colonials die for the mother state.

2. The more colonists that die, the weaker the colony becomes, preventing uprisings or independence.

Cope harder, pussy. Canadians were sent to the front lines because the English officers viewed them an a commodity and less than people.
Agree, but at the same time I will say that Canadians were known for being more brutal and more aggressive, which can be chalked up to the fact that they were not able to take the ferry back home like Brits were. Canadians had a very real incentive to get the job done so they could go back home. That said Canada cucked out and stopped being that nation a long time ago.

Anyways, without getting too personal, I get the feeling that most of the defensive posturing I'm seeing in this thread by my countrymen is coming from the same attitude I was attempting to identify in my original post.
you're both incredibly wrong on this point because if what moobs was saying were true then you would expect Canada to have a higher proportion of its population die in the war, which is literally not the case. All three main settler colonies (South Africa, Canada and Australia) had a lower percentage of their population die than Britain did. 2% of Britain's population died while the settler colonies were, on average, around 1%.
out of all the Anglo sphere countries Britain was weakened the most by the war so if they were supposedly trying to weaken the colonies they did a pretty piss poor job
 
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Americas culture bends a knee to china for money. What's that say about americas cultural might?
This isn't really the own you think it is. Every company that wants to do business in China has to do that. It makes for selection bias - the only companies that will be in China are ones that will bend a knee and you see a large number of American companies doing that because American culture is in high demand. I might not agree with how often they capitulate but it wouldn't be there at all if they didn't, and for the most part the demands are rather small and are just normal censorship crap (like half of Europe and swastikas, but blood or Japanese/Taiwanese flags instead).

Besides, it's really a monumental feat that American culture has penetrated so deep into China now, famously one of the hardest markets to get into. Before 2010 it was only the most cursory stuff but now everybody follows basketball, listens to American music, plays American games, and watches American movies and TV (Friends is ridiculously popular in China and used as a language-learning tool), all while China has tried to enforce Han culture on everyone and make everyone speak Standard Mandarin to forge a Han Juche state. Books are hard because the CCP runs a positive censorship regime - only the books they approve of in full can be printed. The only other countries that have had a recent cultural impact in China are SK and Japan, and really only for music and comics.

Sure sounds like we've got our own culture to me!
Hey, you've got "A Handmaid's Tale," the Canadian story about living in TRUMP'S AMERICA and implicitly looking down on religious Americans, now finally becoming popular as an American show. It's almost the distillation of the Canadian attitude.

You need to look at the bigger picture, of course manufacturing is going to be relatively stable in these years because there's nothing left to export to China. The decline in Canadian industry started in 1984 with Brian Mulroney, looking at the 2000s is meaningless because the economy has totally transitioned since then.
You're not paying attention. There was no real, long term decline. The 2000s have been manufacturing highs for Canada and the US both; the people who claim otherwise are lying to you and trying to appeal to low-information voters upset about their jobs moving to China rather than the reality of being replaced by machines. There will always be things to export to China: comparative advantage is an introductory economics topic and you should learn it if you really want to pontificate on economies.

I don't if you know what a trade deficit is and why it's important. The US has a massive trade deficit with China but the US isn't paying China with money directly, they are paying the trade deficit with productive wealth (i.e. land, debt, stocks, and other various things). Smart Americans want to reduce the trade deficit with China because they know that China could come to the table one day and threaten to do serious damage to American companies.
It's not debt, not in any real sense. US debt doesn't change at all when something is bought or sold (besides the slight decrease from taxes, obviously, but it's unimportant). The fact that it's now held by Chinese companies and people also doesn't really matter: China can't run on US banks because of modern banking protections against both runs and currency dumps and the fact that China would cripple itself, as they'd need to sell US dollars at less than market price, losing ridiculous amounts of money. That also ignores the fact that China would need to confiscate all that money from companies in order to even try. Without confiscating it, which is politically infeasible in China as party members rely on their US investments for growth rather than the clout of Chinese investments, they'd need to buy it all at increased prices. It would be ludicrously expensive and would waste way too much money.

As a proportion Canada owns more productive wealth in the US than the US does Canada. I understand that this doesn't necessarily make the US reliant on Canada, however it is a bargaining chip.
All that means is that the US is a more attractive place to invest for Canadians than Canada is for Americans, which makes sense and doesn't imply that either is bad in any way. It's just a reality that there's a premium on corporations existing in Canada relative to the US and that the US possesses the most lucrative investment possibilities due to high individual productiveness, relative ease of investment, USD primacy, and the extreme high tech concentrations in the US. It's also not a bargaining chip: Canada can't and won't suddenly declare all Canadian investments in the US to be over, because those are primarily held by corporations and individuals and not Canada itself.

41% of Canadian GDP being reliant on America isn't particularly relevant when you consider how much of the economy is just smoke and mirrors. How much of that is real and how much is fake? the numbers are so inflated that you may as well not even take them into consideration. And once again, this whole "reliance" thing isn't real, the US isn't reliant on any country in practical terms and neither is Canada.
What is fake about it? GDP actually undercounts economic activity because it ignores cashless activity (less important for GDP relative to other countries since it's largely internal) and online/service/internet activity (much more important). Wikipedia, for all its faults, has been a powerful economic boon to the world but isn't counted at all. All the free internet content, much of which is either sourced from the US, isn't measured. Besides, if it were fake that would be more of an issue for your argument. Trade numbers are extremely reliable due to the way importation works. If real GDP were lower than it is, trade as a % of GDP would go up, not down. Also, you were the person who brought up "reliance."
 
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Are Canadians smug, pricks who hate Americans? Not out in the countryside, but in big cities like Toronto, you definitely see a lot of that.
I haven't been to either, but from friends in Vancouver say it isn't too bad. Montreal on the other hand is Canada's capital of douchebaggery.

Media doesn't help americans' image either with shit like https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kRh1zXFKC_o

Impressionable people take it as gospel, not realizing that news stations and such interviewing random people on the street will broadcast anyone with a controversial opinion or those making an ass out of themselves for a story.
 
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If there's anything I've ever learnt about this country, it's that Quebecois are the most rancid and ungrateful form of Canadian. Ottawa had to force all pubs to shut at 12 since Gatineau drunks would hop over to Ottawa, as the pubs shut down at 2AM instead of 12, causing all sorts of holdups for actual Ontarians.
Suck me off you filthy maud't tete carree. If you weren't such a fucking faggot you could cross the bridge and drink with human beings and not worry about what time the gaylords in Ottawa packed it in. Queer.
 

PhoBingas

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Your healthcare system sucks though. The fact that (most) doctor(s) can’t run a private practice but has to go through the government cartel is straight up Stalinist-tier BS.
Our healthcare is free but you get what you pay for. The meme about getting your feelings checked isn't just a meme. Expect 4 hour plus wait times in emergency in a small city on a slow evening. There's not enough doctors and the ones we have are overworked and underpaid; meaning they will pack up and move to the US so they can make a "decent wage". If you need any sort of thing from a specialist, expect wait times of 6+ months for stuff like CT scans or MRI's unless you're dying.
 

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This isn't really the own you think it is. Every company that wants to do business in China has to do that. It makes for selection bias - the only companies that will be in China are ones that will bend a knee and you see a large number of American companies doing that because American culture is in high demand. I might not agree with how often they capitulate but it wouldn't be there at all if they didn't, and for the most part the demands are rather small and are just normal censorship crap (like half of Europe and swastikas, but blood or Japanese/Taiwanese flags instead).

Besides, it's really a monumental feat that American culture has penetrated so deep into China now, famously one of the hardest markets to get into. Before 2010 it was only the most cursory stuff but now everybody follows basketball, listens to American music, plays American games, and watches American movies and TV (Friends is ridiculously popular in China and used as a language-learning tool), all while China has tried to enforce Han culture on everyone and make everyone speak Standard Mandarin to forge a Han Juche state. Books are hard because the CCP runs a positive censorship regime - only the books they approve of in full can be printed. The only other countries that have had a recent cultural impact in China are SK and Japan, and really only for music and comics.
The problem I have is that they bend a knee to china, then run roughshot with their personal beliefs and ideals here. Things like the lasr of us 2, where for no reason, we have trans and gay characters, that makes 0 sense in the setting. Or how they force acceptance in the west, but in China, they force normalcy. They force that the state is good. Hell, even now, the edmonton eskimos are gonna change their name because corporations got upset, but if they had the chance to work in china, they would be good little complacent companies. Don't forget, china is re-writing the bible to have more socialist values.
Hey, you've got "A Handmaid's Tale," the Canadian story about living in TRUMP'S AMERICA and implicitly looking down on religious Americans, now finally becoming popular as an American show. It's almost the distillation of the Canadian attitude.
I didn't know it was canadian lol. That's actually pretty funny.

The only culture we need to export is opd KITH sketches.
 

BadTakeCrucifier

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Media doesn't help americans' image either with shit like https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kRh1zXFKC_o
This type of skit is one of the most heavily recycled talk show routines of all time, has been for decades. "Ask random people on the street basic questions, then cut it down to the idiots only." Seen it a million times. Also yuck, Kimmel.

I do get what you're saying about people being impressionable, but anyone who buys into what they're selling here is only slightly better than the people being mocked.
 
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Does Canada have a national epic like other countries? England has Beowulf (and by extension shakspear, although his works aren't really considered epics), America has the Columbiad, France has Henriade, and the rest of world has their epic literature. After looking around for a while the best Canadian literature that I could come up with is Anne of Green Gables, which is a children's book, far from anything that can be considered a national epic. I want something that uniquely embodies our history, and what can be vaguely called "the Canadian spirit" (although there's huge doubt as to whether a unique spirit exists at all, except for supreme smugness when referring to Americans.)
I would say that something to do with Louis Riel would essentially be the National Epic.

It's a somewhat unimportant event compared to others, but at its core was the 1.) An intersection between the French, English, and Natives, the main founding elements of Canada in a setting beyond the colonial borders set by the British; 2.) It occurred in a time when Canada was finally 'independent' but young and unstable; 3.) It was the fight between the English (Ontario) and the French (Metis, Quebec) over what language the West would be settled with, and the French lost in the end (which is why you have little French missions/towns scattered all over Western Canada, populated by English-speakers); and 4.) It has the markings of a tragic, deluded hero in Riel.

Unfortunately, no writers really broached the subject liked they did with Evangeline*, and nationally popular epics are no longer possible these days due to print no longer being the predominant medium of entertainment or information. Come to think of it, I doubt it would have been possible either, since it happened too soon to be forgiven by any segment of the population before mass media took over.

*Ironically Evangeline improbably the only Canadian epic I can think of, and it's not really 'Canadian' either, being more of an American epic framed through the Acadians.
 
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You're not paying attention. There was no real, long term decline. The 2000s have been manufacturing highs for Canada and the US both; the people who claim otherwise are lying to you and trying to appeal to low-information voters upset about their jobs moving to China rather than the reality of being replaced by machines. There will always be things to export to China: comparative advantage is an introductory economics topic and you should learn it if you really want to pontificate on economies.
Statistics Canada has been compiling this data for years, we know that there has been a decline in manufacturing because it is an objective fact as reported by the government ministries, which, by the way, have a vested interest in making sure the Canadian economy looks strong. I would like to take a look at your sources because I simply don't believe them.

comparative advantage is a crock of shit. All these free trade faggots professing the miracles of comparative advantage when in reality, in real life, businesses try to vertically integrate. A match stick company will try to buy the lumber mills because it's more efficient, apple buys rare earth mines (but obfuscate the fact that they own them because "blood diamonds" and such) because buying them from another company is more expensive. I would like to talk more about why the western world is suffering under free trade, however that's not a particularly pressing point.

It's not debt, not in any real sense. US debt doesn't change at all when something is bought or sold (besides the slight decrease from taxes, obviously, but it's unimportant). The fact that it's now held by Chinese companies and people also doesn't really matter: China can't run on US banks because of modern banking protections against both runs and currency dumps and the fact that China would cripple itself, as they'd need to sell US dollars at less than market price, losing ridiculous amounts of money. That also ignores the fact that China would need to confiscate all that money from companies in order to even try. Without confiscating it, which is politically infeasible in China as party members rely on their US investments for growth rather than the clout of Chinese investments, they'd need to buy it all at increased prices. It would be ludicrously expensive and would waste way too much money.
US debt does change when it is bought and sold, in a practical sense. The person holding the debt can now do what they please with it. There's no benefit of being in debt, and being in debt to your enemy is even worse. Do you believe that China accrued all this US debt for nothing? The Chinese know they have American companies by the balls, banking protections don't matter when the country you're dealing with can cripple you by shutting you out of their country. US companies would be more than willing to pay their debts if China really made a point about. And them receiving payments at a loss isn't as important as you think, remember, China is the number one currency manipulator in the world.

Chinese party officials don't rely on US investments, once again do you think the Chinese government is really that stupid as to let their party members get entangled in foreign business? Even if they are there is an easy way out as provided by the Chinese government.

All that means is that the US is a more attractive place to invest for Canadians than Canada is for Americans, which makes sense and doesn't imply that either is bad in any way. It's just a reality that there's a premium on corporations existing in Canada relative to the US and that the US possesses the most lucrative investment possibilities due to high individual productiveness, relative ease of investment, USD primacy, and the extreme high tech concentrations in the US. It's also not a bargaining chip: Canada can't and won't suddenly declare all Canadian investments in the US to be over, because those are primarily held by corporations and individuals and not Canada itself.
We are benefiting from owning productive wealth, there is no way around it. We have the capability to nationalize US assets and if it comes it I;m sure the government would do that. owning productive wealth in another country is really important, the reason Belarus is essentially a colony of Russia is because Russia owns all of Belarus' productive wealth. I'm not implying that the US is Canada's colony, that would be ridiculous, however we know that individual Canadian corporations proportionately hold more power over US ones.

FDI is dumb but also very important, and I won't pretend to completely understand it, aside from trade deficits which I do understand.
What is fake about it? GDP actually undercounts economic activity because it ignores cashless activity (less important for GDP relative to other countries since it's largely internal) and online/service/internet activity (much more important). Wikipedia, for all its faults, has been a powerful economic boon to the world but isn't counted at all. All the free internet content, much of which is either sourced from the US, isn't measured. Besides, if it were fake that would be more of an issue for your argument. Trade numbers are extremely reliable due to the way importation works. If real GDP were lower than it is, trade as a % of GDP would go up, not down. Also, you were the person who brought up "reliance."
All you need to do is look at the stock market. Supposedly we are in a global recession but the stocks just keep going up. The same with GDP except (((they))) can't hide it that well so we're seeing it decline slightly, in reality the GDP of countries right now should be record lows but the big nose billionaires are playing with smoke and mirrors
 

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dude, there's so many bad takes in here that it's hard to wrap my head around it. It would just be a lot easier for you to just admit that you blindly hate Canada and move on. Read a book or something, even watch fucking youtube "journalists" like Caspian report.
But, to address the last part about socialism, by that definition you'll have to define literally every European country including Russia as socialist, as well as California and New York. There's a difference between interventionism and socialism, and it's a pretty big difference.
Just because you can't accept the truth doesn't make it a "bad take". You forget that I live in Canada too. It's just that unlike you, I've escaped the plantation and see it for the joke that it is. I mean, good for you if you've happy being the equivalent of the retarded child of a greater nation, but I'm not and never will be.

You really need to pull your head out of your ass, son.
 

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Chinese party officials don't rely on US investments, once again do you think the Chinese government is really that stupid as to let their party members get entangled in foreign business? Even if they are there is an easy way out as provided by the Chinese government.
This is just... not correct. You're talking about the country that loaned a trillion with T to the United States. This is who is "not invested"? Objectively wrong.

First of all: China is quite happy to fund the US military, because that keeps the US in the Middle East, and keeps the Muslims out of China. (Which, if you didn't know, China currently tends to despise and fear the Muslims.) By the way, China has been throwing any Muslims they catch in fucking concentration camps. That is how much they hate them. So yes, it is a fucking investment to the Chinese officials.

Second of all: Despite the chasm of political and ideological differences between the 2 governments, Chinese officials have quite the vested interest in buying up the US debt, because the dollar is much stronger than the Chinese Yuan (AKA the Renminbi). Their inflation is so bad that 7 of their dollars equals $1 in the US.

Their internal economy has been so fucked up by the last century of communism. The Chinese perspective on US investment is that it's better to get 50% of their debt back from the USA decades from now, than to invest in China and lose 90% or more of the value due to the rampant "wealth redistribution." Not to mention internal problems like famines, quality control of various products, etc. The economy in China just isn't reliable and the Chinese know this because they live with it. Same applies to the Chinese Millionaire/Billionaires. They would rather invest safely in America, than invest in China where the CCP will rape their profits.
 

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you're both incredibly wrong on this point because if what moobs was saying were true then you would expect Canada to have a higher proportion of its population die in the war, which is literally not the case. All three main settler colonies (South Africa, Canada and Australia) had a lower percentage of their population die than Britain did. 2% of Britain's population died while the settler colonies were, on average, around 1%.
out of all the Anglo sphere countries Britain was weakened the most by the war so if they were supposedly trying to weaken the colonies they did a pretty piss poor job
What you're failing to do, which is simple math by the way, is determine % of casualties by comparing soldiers sent vs soldiers dead, not # of soldiers dead vs total population.

How many more false facts are you going to present?

I haven't been to either, but from friends in Vancouver say it isn't too bad. Montreal on the other hand is Canada's capital of douchebaggery.

Media doesn't help americans' image either with shit like https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kRh1zXFKC_o

Impressionable people take it as gospel, not realizing that news stations and such interviewing random people on the street will broadcast anyone with a controversial opinion or those making an ass out of themselves for a story.
Vancouver is shit, too. Just like Victoria, Edmonton, Saskatoon, Brampton, Winnipeg, Toronto, Hamilton, Scarborough, Windor, London, Brandon, the rest of the GTA, Ottawa, Montreal, Quebec City, Halifax, and Charlettetown.
 
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