I've seen cartons in Toronto but not in Calgary. Then again, I wasn't the one really buying or drinking tard cum as I'm lactose intolerant . I'v only seen jugs in the US.I can't remember if I saw bagged tard cum in the 80s in BC, all we have here now is cartons and plastic 2L and 4L (gallon roughly) jugs. But I do remember seeing NOTHING but bagged tard cum in southern Ontario in the early and mid 2000s. I was like "where's the cartons?!" and it's like "There are no cartons! No jugs either!"