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Or they say troll when they are refer to the creatures that tend to live under bridges.
I went over this before, but there is an objective difference between trolling and cyberbullying. In order for something to be bullying, the action has to be targeted towards an individual, be repeated against the same individual, be in some way aggressive (physically or emotionally) and there has to be a power difference between the bully and the person being bullied. Cyberbullying just means that this occurs online (text/email/ect). Trolling is not cyberbullying because it is often indiscriminate (typing a provocative comment on a forum hoping someone would reply rather calling one person out), its not always repeated against the same person (people who troll people on xbox don't target the same kids twice), its not always emotionally aggressive (rickrolling someone really can't be described as interpersonal aggression).
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http://www.stopbullying.gov/what-is-bullying/definition/index.html
This video of MrEnter's is another great example of MrEnter not knowing how to preform research as his sources don't support the points he is trying to make and instead seem to exist only to make MrEnter look more authoritative on the subject.
Source
http://www.stopbullying.gov/what-is-bullying/definition/index.html
This video of MrEnter's is another great example of MrEnter not knowing how to preform research as his sources don't support the points he is trying to make and instead seem to exist only to make MrEnter look more authoritative on the subject.
Go back to tumblr. You will be welcome in SJW's arms for saying that bullshit.
Agreed. The poem was about people who are actually bullies and/or abusers, not fucking trolls. I am saying this as someone who does some trolling on the internet at times. The poem is not about internet trolls, it is about actual monsters.
Hm, well how about we look at it with celebrities?
It's like the difference between mocking a celebrity for something dumb they did with an article in a magazine and being that guy who harrases them at their house or on the streets until they snap.
Now replace magazine with forum and house with personal pages. You can still send a mean letter to a celebrity's house (or a message on dA) but you can't leave a flaming bag of shit (or tons of insulting notes directly to them).
This analogy isn't perfect, but it's the best I can think of.
It's like the difference between mocking a celebrity for something dumb they did with an article in a magazine and being that guy who harrases them at their house or on the streets until they snap.
Now replace magazine with forum and house with personal pages. You can still send a mean letter to a celebrity's house (or a message on dA) but you can't leave a flaming bag of shit (or tons of insulting notes directly to them).
This analogy isn't perfect, but it's the best I can think of.
I remember listening to "Troll" on Shane Koyzan's album and when it came on I lost some respect for his content.
He's the same guy who did "To This Day" and I felt it was a low blow in his content.
He's the same guy who did "To This Day" and I felt it was a low blow in his content.
Let's set aside the whole Troll vs. Cyberbully debate for a moment.
According to this video, it was only after being trolled that Enter realized "there is evil in this world", or so he says in a solemn tone.
I think that everything you need to know about this video can be found through that statement.
According to this video, it was only after being trolled that Enter realized "there is evil in this world", or so he says in a solemn tone.
I think that everything you need to know about this video can be found through that statement.
Can you give me a time stamp for that? If you're right then that really shows his ego... I mean, I doubt until then he didn't know about pedoforks and murderers.
This is over analyzing but what goes around comes around, Enter!
I found it really disgusting how he was implying that people making fun of him for being an obnoxious manchild on the internet is comparable to the suffering of people who were bullied to the point of suicide, and then goes on to say that people who make fun of him are so evil that they introduced him to evil as a concept. Enter is unbelievably self-centered, and his ego knows no bounds. What a fucking prick.
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When he said "this taught me that there is evil in the world", he didn't mean it the way you're all describing. This is what he meant (from his Top 10 Videos of 2014):
"The only improvement I think I could have made is clarify what I meant when I said "this taught me there is evil in the world." You see, for the most part murdering people and stealing from them is frowned upon in most societies. However, doxxing people, sending them death threats a thousand times a day, that's apparently funny. While people started doing what I complained about to coerce me into thinking that what I said was wrong, new surfaced about another 19-year-old, Adam Smith, killed himself due to common everyday trolling. He was a brony. He had a learning disability, which are both common targets for trolling. He made a video apologizing to his trolls, which is still on YouTube. The troll comments telling him to kill himself are still there, as are some of them that say they're glad he's gone. This person I'm assuming they've never even met. If there is a line between bullying and trolling, I still don't see it. This video is my favorite video I've made because it's the one I think most needed to be said. Oh by the way, I'm not even kidding--people are trying to troll me to coerce me that I was wrong in my opinions about trolling. It's... not going to work."
"The only improvement I think I could have made is clarify what I meant when I said "this taught me there is evil in the world." You see, for the most part murdering people and stealing from them is frowned upon in most societies. However, doxxing people, sending them death threats a thousand times a day, that's apparently funny. While people started doing what I complained about to coerce me into thinking that what I said was wrong, new surfaced about another 19-year-old, Adam Smith, killed himself due to common everyday trolling. He was a brony. He had a learning disability, which are both common targets for trolling. He made a video apologizing to his trolls, which is still on YouTube. The troll comments telling him to kill himself are still there, as are some of them that say they're glad he's gone. This person I'm assuming they've never even met. If there is a line between bullying and trolling, I still don't see it. This video is my favorite video I've made because it's the one I think most needed to be said. Oh by the way, I'm not even kidding--people are trying to troll me to coerce me that I was wrong in my opinions about trolling. It's... not going to work."
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I disagree.
NostalgiaJazzAdmirer
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Disagree with what, exactly?
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I find this question optimistic.
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That's a winner.
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Those people weren't trolls. They were evil bastards.
Sending death threats is not "common everyday trolling".
But you know what? I'm done with this thread. It's going absolutely nowhere.
Sending death threats is not "common everyday trolling".
But you know what? I'm done with this thread. It's going absolutely nowhere.
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I agree.
Abandon thread.
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