On the question of bullying -

MarvinTheParanoidAndroid

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But there's another type of bullying. This kind usually happens in groups. The "victim" is usually socially deviant, and deals with it in one of two ways.

1. They sperg out and ends up like the people on the Lolcow boards

2. They buck the fuck up. They consider their life choices and actions. They think about what led them to be ostracized. And maybe, just maybe...they change for the better.

I'm gonna preface this by saying I am of the belief that the group is more important the the individual, because it can exist without the individual but the individual cannot exist without the group. People are kind of like cells in the organism of society. Genetics has shown us that throughout natural history that the genes of "desirable" traits get passed on in society, and "undesirable" ones eventually die off. On an individual level, if all other error correction during cell replication fails, that cell is destroyed by the immune system, unable to continue to pass on its code.

In other words, a "behavior" could just as easily be an unpopular opinion, so your argument really boils down to the mob always being right.
Who decides what "better" is?
Might is right, don't you know that? OP told me.
 
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We all do, by who we want to procreate with.
Where do procreation and schoolchildren bullying each-other interact? More importantly, how could your sluggish biologically driven instinct to bang certain types of people possibly keep up with society's actual needs when even the relatively fast socioculture that fights or informs those instincts can't?
Though if you think about it, though bullying is bad, how could you stop it?
A good behaviorist would say 'don't create the environment that generates the bullying interaction' and agitate for actual changes to how school schedules, policies, or faculty are assigned to the kids. Unfortunately, all of the good behaviorists were dragged out to the back of the barn and shot, so now we're left with a lot of quacks prescribing medication and a staunch refusal to admit that the gen ed experiment failed. Granted again that a lot of the degradation in the new generations are due to tech, but the damage "rigorous" and "modern" academic environments in South Korea and Japan have done to their youth can't be ignored. The further you go down this particular path, the worse the mental health outcomes get, that much seems clear.
 

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when rights of a group is more important than those of one individual, you got socialism. Fuck that shit.

People can and will survive as individuals or in a company of non-assholes. Some things like weird ass fetishes or love for anime pillows should be kept in private life, not flaunted as a fucking banner for other pervs to rally around. I really don't care who or what you fuck in the privacy of your home.
I agree as long as those things that people are fucking don't include children or animals.
 

Lemmingwise

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Where do procreation and schoolchildren bullying each-other interact? More importantly, how could your sluggish biologically driven instinct to bang certain types of people possibly keep up with society's actual needs when even the relatively fast socioculture that fights or informs those instincts can't?

You are putting the cart before the horse here. It doesn't matter whether choice in procreation is done effectively or ineffectively. But that is where the decision is made about what genes to propogate.

As to an analysis of how that might contribute to bullying, I ask you this: why do serial killers receive fan mail from women?
 

Lemmingwise

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A good behaviorist would say 'don't create the environment that generates the bullying interaction' and agitate for actual changes to how school schedules, policies, or faculty are assigned to the kids. Unfortunately, all of the good behaviorists were dragged out to the back of the barn and shot, so now we're left with a lot of quacks prescribing medication and a staunch refusal to admit that the gen ed experiment failed. Granted again that a lot of the degradation in the new generations are due to tech, but the damage "rigorous" and "modern" academic environments in South Korea and Japan have done to their youth can't be ignored. The further you go down this particular path, the worse the mental health outcomes get, that much seems clear


I know practically nothing about south korean and japanese academic environment, so can you be a little clearee on what you mean by this?

  1. What have they done to their youth?
  2. What is the damage?
  3. Further down what path?

I presume you mean they are too tough in their demands and it leads to a karoshi environment?

But isn't such an environment exactly an example of how to mitigate bullying (by putting focus on studies)?

I do agree certainly with the removal of excercise and replacing it with drugs as very troublesome.
 
In other words, a "behavior" could just as easily be an unpopular opinion, so your argument really boils down to the mob always being right.


Might is right, don't you know that? OP told me.
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Might is right, when it's my fight.
 

Expurgate Contradictions

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Adult men can't be bullied, full stop. Not well-adjusted ones, anyways, but the broke-headed ones are usually closer to women in temperament to begin with and women, of course, are subhuman monsters who live only to hurt and be hurt by each other.
 

Sprig of Parsley

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It's going to be harder to tell the difference between bullying someone and simply mocking them for being a fucking sped the more people conflate being told they're an idiot with getting punched in the nose and having your lunch money stolen.
 

Cactus Wings

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Bullying literally only occurs when you're forced to engage with someone. The second you can document it and have a witness or two, it turns into a childish confrontation and a legal following, or at least getting them fired.

It's almost unique a childish problem. Kids do it for whatever reasons, teens do it to keep their insecurities in check. This blends into the depersonalization talk, as in people do it to exercise some sort of role. "If I'm no one of interest, at least im that hot chick who bullies people".
 
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