OPCAL, Sov Cits, freemen on the land success thread - how to avoid paying taxes and win in court.

[Shaka Brah]

I immediately recognized this aas Imperial County, California, home of the Salton Sea and Slab City, the "last free place."

Confirmed when the deputy mentioned Calexico. [Edit: different video where a sovcit was tormenting the border patrol. Deputy here does say it's Imperial County]

If you've never been there, it's basically poor farm workers, tweakers, and off-grid crackpots. I'm not sure how anyone there can afford to put gas in their cars.

Welfare and Social Security. Most of them are elderly hippies and yuppies. I'm just waiting for the autism storm when the Cali government sells the land to some green energy boondoggle and we get to see these people come out to protest against a solar power plant or something.

 

[Shaka Brah]

Geothermal actually -- slabbers are sure Big Energy is going to bulldoze their squats and exploit their untouched wilderness. /s

It unironically will bulldoze them, but it will be Big Solar or Big Wind. Where do they get the idea of geothermal though? That would be impossible to build there if my geography is right.

 

[FatalTater]

Yeah, none of these are sov. citizens. Also bundling Nauglers with the rest of them is a transparent smear.

The Bundys aren't Sovereign Citizens? http://archive.vn/OQg7n
Gavin Seim isn't either? http://archive.vn/Tr718

I am shocked.

As for the Nauglers... If a sinkhole opened up under the garden shed they live in and swallowed them up I would laugh my ass off. They're smart enough to mostly downplay the sovereign citizen stuff in front of strangers they're trying to grift from, but Nicole posts SovCit crap on her facebook all the time. Sally Davis wrote a blog post mentioning it a while back, http://archive.vn/iCt6p with screen caps showing Nicole Naugler sharing Larkin Rose's facebook posts. I have a sneaking suspicion that Larkin Rose may be a sovereign citizen but of course, I could be wrong about it.

 

[DidYouJustSayThat]

The Bundys aren't Sovereign Citizens? http://archive.vn/OQg7n
Gavin Seim isn't either? http://archive.vn/Tr718

I am shocked.

As for the Nauglers... If a sinkhole opened up under the garden shed they live in and swallowed them up I would laugh my ass off. They're smart enough to mostly downplay the sovereign citizen stuff in front of strangers they're trying to grift from, but Nicole posts SovCit crap on her facebook all the time. Sally Davis wrote a blog post mentioning it a while back, http://archive.vn/iCt6p with screen caps showing Nicole Naugler sharing Larkin Rose's facebook posts. I have a sneaking suspicion that Larkin Rose may be a sovereign citizen but of course, I could be wrong about it.

Fine, I deserved this. Anyway, Bundys did nothing wrong and the feds and the state should apologise and grovel at their feet. Furthermore, fuck you and also fuck the horse you rode on to the town.

 

[TurboNAS]

Did you know that there is a General Post Office where you can send mail for 2 and 3 cent stamps but only if you don't engage with the corporate entity that is the US Post Office. So long as you don't write the abbreviation for the state or the ZIP code, you're totally able to send mail for cheap!

Except, that's all wrong. Oh, and as a bonus, did you know that the Earth is made of 71% water and water always finds its own level and it can't stick to a sphere so therefore the Earth is flat.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hZc4mgKJxow

One annoying thing, the video has little reaction clips scattered throughout. The whole Van Balion channel is a treasure trove of these kinds of videos.

 

[TurboNAS]

I don't recall if this rabbit hole has shown up in this thread. Parse-syntax quantum grammar. It's his notion that there is a mathematical underpinning to English grammar that visionary "Judge" David Wynn Miller rediscovered and is bringing to the masses for a modest fee so you can finally write true and correct contracts.

By peppering your sentences with extra punctuation and lots of hyphens, you somehow create true sentences that finally allow you to write proper legal contracts. Since this is the SovCit thread, you can guess how well this works.

https://invidio.us/watch?v=RfqxHH5Srxk

This is the short version of his bizarre notions. 15 minutes of gibberish, but it sets the stage for SovCit magical thinking - by putting in special punctuation I can invalidate any pesky lawsuits.

My favorite video is this beast, from a lecture in 2012:

https://invidio.us/watch?v=zgcW6Hzn46w

WARNING: He rambles on and on about his life and I find it fascinating. He's utterly dull in his presentation and keeps telling all these whoppers without any change in tone. He tells you he died on the operating table and came back to life, but his kidneys were injured and therefore he longer ages. He's got a special computer brain. On and on. It's an overwhelming stream of garbage coming out of his mouth for the entire course of his lecture. I suppose this is like my own SovCit ASMR.

One of those bright lads using Parse-syntax is Leighton Ward. He convinced people that their mortgages were fraudulent and if they used this Parse-syntax stuff they wouldn't have to pay any more fees.

Here's an audio cap of him talking to a lawyer before his court case about this scam:

https://invidio.us/watch?v=RDLpLGphd6s

tl;dw: He babbles nonsense about grammar and the lawyer eventually shuts him down.

So, how did that work out for him?

https://www.wsmv.com/news/accused-sovereign-citizen-convicted-on-counts/video_4f3a4fec-26ef-5542-b8c0-83ec800f28a0.html

Not well. He's not in prison with a 23+ year sentence for his fraudulent activities.

:Better-luck::next-time_._Leighton.:

 

[theshep]

Sovereign Citizen vs Queensland Police

 

[GentlemanFaggot]

Sovereign Citizen vs Queensland Police
View attachment 1468802

God I wish I could see where this went. I love how the cop just asked what he identified as instead of replying to the SovCit magic question, "AM I A MAN?"

 

[The Real SVP]

Parse-syntax quantum grammar.

From United States v. Pflum:
Other than some procedural matters handled in May of 2009, the court's docket sheet shows no other filings until August 16, 2013, when Mr. Pflum filed in this case the unique pleading entitled: "Document-Contract-Federal Postal-Station-Court-Venue (D.-C.-F.-P.-S.-C.-V.) of the Quo-Warranto-Complaint-Document." (Dk. 165). The clerk docketed this pleading as a "Notice to Court." (Dk. 165). This pleading appears to be signed and fingerprinted by Mr. Pflum and by Mr. David-Wynn Miller, who is identified in the body of the document as a "Federal-Postal-Judge" with an address in Milwaukee, Wisconsin.
It would appear that Mr. Pflum intends to burden the record of this closed criminal case with a frivolous line of litigation that has been pursued by David Wynn Miller or others in different courts and there dismissed as "incomprehensible," consisting of "indecipherable and nonsensical words and symbols," "nonsensical conclusory statements," "unintelligible," "completely incoherent," and appearing "to rest on a language, syntax and grammatical structure of the plaintiff's own creation" that is lacking "a single comprehensible allegation of fact."
The court has compared the instant filing and its arcane language and its reliance on this largely incoherent doctrine referred to as, "C.-S.-S.-C.-P.-S.-G.=Correct-Sentence-Structure-Communication-Parse-Syntax-Grammar" with filings advocated by Mr. Miller in other courts.

This looks like a timecube tier goldmine.

 

[TurboNAS]

Similar to SovCits we have 1st Amendment Auditors. They like to confront cops, go to government buildings and film their encounters. Way to stick it to the man.

A few of them stand out for being total dirtbags. Glenn Cerios is a Seattleite who has slithered down to Portland and now bugs cops down there. Here's a few of his greatest hits:

 

[LazarusOwenhart]

Similar to SovCits we have 1st Amendment Auditors. They like to confront cops, go to government buildings and film their encounters. Way to stick it to the man.

A few of them stand out for being total dirtbags. Glenn Cerios is a Seattleite who has slithered down to Portland and now bugs cops down there. Here's a few of his greatest hits:

What exactly do they think this is going to accomplish? I think the funniest bit is the super smug, holier than thou tone of voice these guys use that screams "I'm a gaping diseased cunt please punch my face!" They know they're there to cause trouble, the cops know they're there to cause trouble and much as I'm from England and my knowledge of the US constitution isn't super hot, I'm fairly sure the first amendment doesn't have a clause that allows disruption of law enforcement in the performance of duties.

 

[IAmNotAlpharius]

Apparently there’s a “moorish” offshoot lol.

https://13wham.com/news/nation-world/washington-state-officials-warn-about-home-repossession-scam

https://archive.fo/wip/Kl9qU

 

[EmpGulcasa]

Similar to SovCits we have 1st Amendment Auditors. They like to confront cops, go to government buildings and film their encounters. Way to stick it to the man.

A few of them stand out for being total dirtbags. Glenn Cerios is a Seattleite who has slithered down to Portland and now bugs cops down there. Here's a few of his greatest hits:

First time I've seen this dude and I already fucking hate him. Feels like he should be a lolcow.

 

[Shaka Brah]

First time I've seen this dude and I already fucking hate him. Feels like he should be a lolcow.

The weird thing about these guys is that they all behave the exact same way so they're not very interesting by themselves.

 

[Meowthkip]

I'm so used to seeing the peeing Calvin on car windows that seeing it on a shirt is throwing me off completely.

 

[HumanHive]

The weird thing about these guys is that they all behave the exact same way so they're not very interesting by themselves.

It's this weird kind of belief that legalese is like magic. Say the right words, you can get whatever you want, and if it doesn't work then THEY JUST DON'T KNOW THE LAW.
The best comparison I can think of is alchemists. They try to turn lead into gold, make the universal solvent, discover the most noble of noble elements; all over and over again. It's really funny the first time they get a lung full of chlorine gas, but after the 10th time it's kind of pathetic and really just an elaborate form of suicide.

 

[Inquisitor_BadAss]

It's this weird kind of belief that legalese is like magic. Say the right words, you can get whatever you want, and if it doesn't work then THEY JUST DON'T KNOW THE LAW.
The best comparison I can think of is alchemists. They try to turn lead into gold, make the universal solvent, discover the most noble of noble elements; all over and over again. It's really funny the first time they get a lung full of chlorine gas, but after the 10th time it's kind of pathetic and really just an elaborate form of suicide.

Sov cits are people just too dumb to get a crafty accountant. Just cuck to the government and give them your yearly tribute like every other American.

 

[gangweedfan]

So basically these people practice counter economics by being the most annoying retards possible?

 

[HumanHive]

So basically these people practice counter economics by being the most annoying retards possible?

All to get out of buying a licence plate.

 

[Meowthkip]

All to get out of buying a licence plate.

They just mad because they can't get license plates with swears on them.