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Techpriest

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While I think he's being a sped, what on earth makes you think those cops are going to be on your side?
While they might not be, they’re also not all violent fucktards. Plenty just want to do their job. Harassing them does nothing for anyone, aside from piss of the cops even more.

Shouting “AM I BEING DETAINED?” is fucking dumb and I giggle whenever one of these sov citizens gets tazed for being a dumbass in a court room.
 

Adamska

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While I think he's being a sped, what on earth makes you think those cops are going to be on your side?
I mostly just meant that he's probably the type of guy who will ree at the police until he needs them. Like if someone robbed him or something.

Basically fuck the man until I need said man.
While they might not be, they’re also not all violent fucktards. Plenty just want to do their job. Harassing them does nothing for anyone, aside from piss of the cops even more.

Shouting “AM I BEING DETAINED?” is fucking dumb and I giggle whenever one of these sov citizens gets tazed for being a dumbass in a court room.
Also there's at least one strain of OPCAL who are at least to some degree responsible for why cops get so trigger happy. You know, the ones that drive and think it's a kino idea to shoot cops for "DeTaInInG tHeM", making said living cops more likely to just fucking shoot first and ask questions later.
 

Harlay de Champvallon

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You’re a retard then gotcha
You are the retard, but then this thread seems to be a containment place for 'special' forum members, so noting that is essentially redundant. Worrying about police and Courts is not for you. Jeering people who try to assert their freedoms in their own way shows mental confusion. Keep with the special ed puzzle pieces or whatever keeps you happy.
 

Capsaicin Addict

Now see here you little shit.
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You are the retard, but then this thread seems to be a containment place for 'special' forum members, so noting that is essentially redundant. Worrying about police and Courts is not for you. Jeering people who try to assert their freedoms in their own way shows mental confusion. Keep with the special ed puzzle pieces or whatever keeps you happy.
To quote the Joker, 'WE LIVE IN A SOCIETY'.

Which, y'know, we do. And invariably, every goddamn sovcit I've seen does not understand. It's been noted in this thread, repeatedly, that sovcits think there's some magical invocation of words and rules that make them untouchable by the laws of the society we live in. Yeah, that's not how this works.

If you want to escalate things in a police encounter, fine, but you'll end up just like a lot of joggers that we point and laugh at as they die.
 

Techpriest

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You are the retard, but then this thread seems to be a containment place for 'special' forum members, so noting that is essentially redundant. Worrying about police and Courts is not for you. Jeering people who try to assert their freedoms in their own way shows mental confusion. Keep with the special ed puzzle pieces or whatever keeps you happy.
I’m not the one here who is simping for psychos shooting at cops for pulling them over for speeding because they think the law doesn’t apply to them or anyone else. Fuck off and take a lead pill instead of a redpill.
 

Adamska

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You are the retard, but then this thread seems to be a containment place for 'special' forum members, so noting that is essentially redundant. Worrying about police and Courts is not for you. Jeering people who try to assert their freedoms in their own way shows mental confusion. Keep with the special ed puzzle pieces or whatever keeps you happy.
Ah, so you're only the big mad because you're likely trying to do the hokey pokey right now to avoid paying taxes.

Good luck with that retard.
 

draggs

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While they might not be, they’re also not all violent fucktards. Plenty just want to do their job. Harassing them does nothing for anyone, aside from piss of the cops even more.

Shouting “AM I BEING DETAINED?” is fucking dumb and I giggle whenever one of these sov citizens gets tazed for being a dumbass in a court room.
Asking if you are detained is a good thing to do in case you need it for court wrangling later (after cop has had you sitting there for a reasonable amount of time), but shrieking like a banshee about it from the get go or the instant the cop asks you a question you dont like because you cant answer it (like, say, "Got any drugs or weapons in the car/on you?") is pure exceptionality. The cop will respond appropriately to your strange verbal hostility and general sped behavior by going even further up your ass, and 99999 times / 100000 prosecutors and judges will back them up. Discretion is the better part of valor when cop is sniffing around and you've got a half pound of whatever in your trunk because you didnt sign no true and honest contract agreeing drugs are bad mmmkay
 

LazloChalos

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sovcitsp.jpg

I'm sure I missed some things, but this should be enough to get any Kiwi started on the path of independence.
 

BiggerChungus

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Deadwing Dork's doing a stream on the "audit" subculture of sovcits. He sums it up pretty well that they're not as incoherently retarded as regular sovcits, but they're more irritating and come off as psychotic rather than just dumb or drugged out. One of them just walked around recording people through windows and Joker laughing.
 

AnOminous

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Discretion is the better part of valor when cop is sniffing around and you've got a half pound of whatever in your trunk because you didnt sign no true and honest contract agreeing drugs are bad mmmkay
"I have nothing to say to you. May I leave now?" If you can't, yes, you are being detained.
 

BiggerChungus

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"I have nothing to say to you. May I leave now?" If you can't, yes, you are being detained.
I don't get the "am I being detained" thing. If they're told no, they still stand there acting weird. If they're told yes, they still stand there acting weird. They don't challenge the cops on it or anything either, they're just like "ok, I'm detained." All their buddies think this is "total education ownage" of the law though.
 

AnOminous

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I don't get the "am I being detained" thing. If they're told no, they still stand there acting weird. If they're told yes, they still stand there acting weird. They don't challenge the cops on it or anything either, they're just like "ok, I'm detained." All their buddies think this is "total education ownage" of the law though.
This is because of their weird thought pattern where if they say the right magic words, magic things should happen. The fact of whether you're detained or not does not hinge on whether certain magic words are uttered. It is quite simply whether or not you can leave without being hindered. "May I leave?" If the answer is yes and you can walk away or drive away or whatever, you are not detained. If the answer is no, if you will be restrained or smacked around or tazed, you are, indeed, being detained.

It is the fact of the matter that is important, not what magic words are uttered.
 

BiggerChungus

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This is because of their weird thought pattern where if they say the right magic words, magic things should happen. The fact of whether you're detained or not does not hinge on whether certain magic words are uttered. It is quite simply whether or not you can leave without being hindered. "May I leave?" If the answer is yes and you can walk away or drive away or whatever, you are not detained. If the answer is no, if you will be restrained or smacked around or tazed, you are, indeed, being detained.

It is the fact of the matter that is important, not what magic words are uttered.
Reminds me of Metokur's video where one of them talks about "word magic" and how because the word navel sounds like naval that means the government invented it to say all American babies are naval property and thus can be legally kept under martial law, or something. They really do think that words have some kind of magic power, like "You're dismissed" will make cops disappear.
 

Pope Negro Joe the XIIIth

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Reminds me of Metokur's video where one of them talks about "word magic" and how because the word navel sounds like naval that means the government invented it to say all American babies are naval property and thus can be legally kept under martial law, or something. They really do think that words have some kind of magic power, like "You're dismissed" will make cops disappear.
 

Capsaicin Addict

Now see here you little shit.
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This is because of their weird thought pattern where if they say the right magic words, magic things should happen. The fact of whether you're detained or not does not hinge on whether certain magic words are uttered. It is quite simply whether or not you can leave without being hindered. "May I leave?" If the answer is yes and you can walk away or drive away or whatever, you are not detained. If the answer is no, if you will be restrained or smacked around or tazed, you are, indeed, being detained.

It is the fact of the matter that is important, not what magic words are uttered.
I think they got some of this from the Miranda ruling and the subsequent 'magic invocation' of Mirandizing suspects. Frankly, the Miranda case has taken on far more weight than it should; that being said, when you consider that prosecutors and cops are under no obligation to tell you the truth either, one can see why a requirement to explain the rights held by a suspect is held inviolate.
 

Shaka Brah

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when you consider that prosecutors and cops are under no obligation to tell you the truth either, one can see why a requirement to explain the rights held by a suspect is held inviolate.
I think it also has a lot to do with bogus traffic stops/drug searches that crop up in some big metropolitan areas. There used to be a trend (so famous it was immortalized in a song) of cops holding people quasi-legally for no reason just to waste enough time that they could bring a drug dog to sniff the car.
 

LorneMalvoo

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Reminds me of Metokur's video where one of them talks about "word magic" and how because the word navel sounds like naval that means the government invented it to say all American babies are naval property and thus can be legally kept under martial law, or something. They really do think that words have some kind of magic power, like "You're dismissed" will make cops disappear.
Hey! I'm from the Fallout Discord community. You once posted this about Fallout Frontier Lead TGSPY. Do remember where you heard these allegations? There is a lot of stuff being found, and this could be the last piece of the puzzle. Thanks!

"Weird as the guy is he's being used as a scapegoat. Almost everyone in charge of that mod was a fucking weirdo. The devs were posting Deathclaw porn and furry OCs in various channels and allegedly tgspy had flirted with and more or less tried to groom a 14 year old girl in their own server. Awful devs on top of an awful mod. Assuming Zu didn't have anything to do with the underage shit and enslaving America dialogue, which even the devs say he didn't despite throwing him under the bus for everything else, the sad thing is he's probably not the worst of the bunch."
 

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