Origins of SJWism? -

[AnotherForumUser]

It seems to have just come out of nowhere within the past decade, and spread throughout our popular culture like a virus. I honestly couldn't have even imagined something as bizzare as this during childhood.

I also don't even really know what term to describe them with other than "SJW", even though it's incredibly overused and doesn't roll off the tongue well.

So what's the ground zero for this bullshit, how did it get into our bread and circus, when can we expect it to fade away, and who are the groups collaborating to push this shit into culture and tech (inb4 da jooz)?

 

[MediocreMilt]

SA Goon op gone off the rails + some of the goons joined unironically because trolls' remorse
/thread

 

[AnotherForumUser]

SA Goon op gone off the rails + some of the goons joined unironically because trolls' remorse
/thread

What's the long story behind it?

 

[MediocreMilt]

What's the long story behind it?

Helldump

 

[Beautiful Border]

Well first we'd have to define what SJWism is. If you're talking about radical feminism, then that's existed for decades now. Look up Andrea Dworkin and Germaine Greer, both were very well-known in the 70s and 80s. People like that have been around for decades, it was just that before the Internet was around it was a lot easier to just ignore them.

I don't like using the word "SJW" anyway, it's a strawman that just associates anyone who has left-wing principles as being unhinged lunatics. It's the right-wing equivalent of how some people on the left will bandy about words like "nazis" and "fascists" for anyone that they just don't like.

 

[AnOminous]

It's a really useless term outside of a few contexts where it means something fairly specific like tumblrinas or whatever. Using it outside those contexts just makes people assume you're "alt-right" or something, or they just flat out have never heard the term and wonder why you would hate "justice" itself even though SJWs have nothing to do with justice, are complete sociopaths, and too fat to be warriors.

 

[Krokodil Overdose]

Well first we'd have to define what SJWism is. If you're talking about radical feminism, then that's existed for decades now. Look up Andrea Dworkin and Germaine Greer, both were very well-known in the 70s and 80s. People like that have been around for decades, it was just that before the Internet was around it was a lot easier to just ignore them.

I don't like using the word "SJW" anyway, it's a strawman that just associates anyone who has left-wing principles as being unhinged lunatics. It's the right-wing equivalent of how some people on the left will bandy about words like "nazis" and "fascists" for anyone that they just don't like.

Honestly? I think the key to SJWism, as we understand it, isn't any particular ideological component. After all, we know those can change at the drop of a hat- we've all seen the Colbert clip from when Comey was fired, when he has to give his audience an OrangeManBad.exe patch because they hadn't realized that Comey, who they'd previously despised for ruining Queen Hillary's coronation, had now always been a hero of the #resist-ance. The interesting thing, the thing that makes it tick, is the ideological propagation and enforcement mechanisms.

 

[John Titor]

The attitude is pretty old.

This is a skit from 1993.

I was thinking of Married with Children and realized Marcy is a proto-SJW who claims to care about activism but is actually self-serving.

 

[RockVolnutt]

It's all Blonald Plumpf's fault. Part of the Deep State Russian operation known as MK ULTRA 2.

 

[Wallace]

My guess would be that it has some roots in the Occupy Wall Street movement. Both were a way to express anger at a system that was clearly fucked up, yet power either couldn't or wouldn't do anything about it. Barack Obama's election also contributed, since for a while the media was spinning the Republicans as the party of racist sore losers for daring to defy the Will of the People, because racism was the only possible reason anyone could be opposed to Obama.

 

[Poiseon]

The attitude is pretty old.

This is a skit from 1993.

I was thinking of Married with Children and realized Marcy is a proto-SJW who claims to care about activism but is actually self-serving.

Jesus fucking Christ people have been making fun of this shit for decades. Almost 30 fucking years now.

There may actually be some hope...

 

[Tim Buckley]

You can notice it has been breeding and growing since many decades ago but it used to be subtle enough to go under everyone's radar and was in camouflage by its association with post-modernism and actual social progress.

This allowed it to take over the on the popular media perception of "acceptable thought" and went largely unchallenged until it somehow it blew over on spectacular and exaggerated fashion with GamerGate probably because it was the first time it got challenged by the popular public, and then it went into full meltdown, got terminally corrupted beyond salvation, got Trump elected president and the European goverment exposed, got itself brutally exposed to the masses on the internet and now powers and organizations are slowly starting to realise this is not popular anymore and will try to distance themselves from it while the remaining SJW ideologues and main agents consists purely on gigantic tards.

It's kinda sad actually, at least facists and conservatives got their long ass reign of absolutism and dominion while this shit is already starting to rot in pathetic misery, fading out prematurely.

 

[Spatula]

I believe the origins can be found in 2009 - 2010.
I used to use Tumblr back then, to follow art.
Then one day, out of nowhere, gay porn started appearing everywhere. You say something that the porn is distasteful and you get labeled as bigot, homophobe etc.
You open these profiles and you see the adjectives, pansexual, non binary or whatever.
Soon in your discover page, you get to see your favorite characters from a show or something have gay sex furiously.
You can't complain about it because it is evil, and you get bullied off the platform.
It was impossible to avoid it.
So the normal people left, and the people that are now called SJW remained in their echo chamber of acceptance.

 

[Cool kitties club]

If you mean tumblrism then it is mostly just scene kid backwash that mixed with leftist politics. If you mean radical leftism then it is really just the assimilation of radical politics into a more acceptable form. Most of these "marxist" or antifa types are just basic progressives who say fuck capitalism and go socialism with capitalism just being an evil bogeyman and socialism being vague nonsense that is usually just "Swedish democratic socialism" or some star trek Kropotkin tier magic making machines anarchy.

 

[Wallace]

Just found another article on this subject. It's dense academese, so here's the good points:

There's a greater sense of moral responsibility in the world as we become more aware of suffering. It's easy to find all kinds of injustices. For example, turn on your TV and you see starving children in Africa. All of these things add up to appear insurmountable. Whatever donation I make to a charitable organization, it can never be as much as I could have given. I can never diminish my carbon footprint enough, or give to the poor enough, or support medical research enough, or otherwise do the things that would render me morally blameless.

By identifying yourself as a victim, or victim-by-proxy, you absolve yourself of blame and secure your sense of fundamental moral innocence. With moral responsibility comes inevitable moral guilt. So if you wish to be accounted innocent, you must find a way to make the claim that you cannot be held morally responsible. This is precisely what the status of victimhood accomplishes. When you are a certifiable victim, you are released from moral responsibility, since a victim is someone who is, by definition, not responsible for his condition, but can point to another who is responsible.

But victimhood at its most potent promises not only release from responsibility, but an ability to displace that responsibility onto others. As a victim, one can project onto another person, the victimizer or oppressor, any feelings of guilt he might harbor, and in projecting that guilt lift it from his own shoulders. And since guilt is infinite, for reasons described above, there can never be atonement. Only those claiming victimhood continuing to demand justice, forever.

 

[AP 297]

Simply put it really has its origin in Identity Politics which came from the New Left.

I am not sure that a lot of people know about the New Left, but at this point I can honestly trace a lot of our current national problems to this really bad idea of a cultural movement. I can honestly say this one single movement has corrupted everything it has touched. I would argue that academia needs to at some point purge this thing or watch as they continue to make the case for why they as an institution should not exist.

Peoples natural revulsion to this thing and its continued string of bad ideas; this has been the source of a lot of the current conservative movement (I would argue at this point it is really anti-leftist not really conservative any longer) and a significant amount of our current social tension.

 

[Lemmingwise]

It seems to have just come out of nowhere within the past decade, and spread throughout our popular culture like a virus. I honestly couldn't have even imagined something as bizzare as this during childhood

If I watch comedy from the 90s, like in living color, it has skits that lampoons similar things.

If I watch more propagandistic movies from the 70s, they advocate a similar world view as being more culturally advanced.

If I look at the central ideas and values, it seems to be very much in line with feminist and sociology writing and a logical extension from the presumption that there is an oppressive patriarchy and that all types of behaviour are purely socialised.

Look at what Erin Pizzey went through; she started the world's first women's shelter in the 1971, discovered that battered women often instigated violence themselves and had never had a positive relationship to a male in their life. So she was sure to have good men helping in that shelter to develop those relationships for the first time.

However she was eventually pushed out by bourgeouis feminists and they turned domestic shelters into literal man-hating bunkers.

To be honest, when you write about it as if it is a new thing, I just wonder what the hell you are on about.

Tumblr may be a watering hole, but the real breeding ground are the ideologies and ideas, cooked up in universities and spread in movies and magazines. Just look at scientology; that was just the vision of one man who developed a religion from 1952. See how big it is, now?

Imagine how big it could have been if more people thought to benefit from its fruits.

Tumblr is just one of the places where it reached critical mass and got mixed with autism.

 

[Ambidextype]

About 10 years ago is when tumblr and Escapist forum popularised Trans movement. It started to go downhill from there.

 

[Sofonda Cox]

I think it's idealism and egalitarianism taken to the 'rational' conclusion.

Egalitarianism cannot be found in nature, anywhere. It is a revolt against nature.
It is a romantic, heroic ideal.

It's youthful, it's faith based, it appears magnanimous and wise, superficially.

What's not to like? Seems like a great goal. Right?

 

[AnOminous]

I think it's idealism and egalitarianism taken to the 'rational' conclusion.

Not really, at least re egalitarianism. Egalitarianism would militate for the destruction of all distinctions or claims of superiority or inferiority of any group (even in the face of evidence for such superiority or inferiority).

SJWism instead inverts traditional power structures and retains all the racism, sexism and other invidious and even outright evil prejudices, but just aims them at their traditional beneficiaries.

So they don't discard the notion that there are superior and inferior racial groups, it's just that now white people are the niggers in that ideology.