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Dang, I thought they were already gone, only to learn they went on for longer than I thought, but now they really are gone?
Bummer.
This is probably due to new video game announcements.
The highlight of the Oscars wasn't anything to do with the Oscars, but the net West Side Story remake trailer.
I don't think there's a single thing in which TV ratings are actually up since the start of the pandemic. The only thing I can think of is Network news before the election, but that has plummetted almost 50%+ with no Orange Man to talk about.
I think it's really fascinating to witness. People aren't flocking to TV; they are flocking to their streaming sites or internet.
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Let's see if the 2022 Oscars will said to the 2021 Oscars about the ratings: "Hold my beer" by having much awful ratings. 
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I didn’t even know the Oscars were on last night until they were already mostly done. I missed the whole first half of the On Cinema special.
Of course, Heidecker wants people to pay for the On Cinema Oscar Special now, so I just watched the YouTube stream Gregg Turkington did on his phone, ha. Turkington is the only reason I bothered to watch it, On Cinema lost a lot of the funny because of Heidecker, Turkington is so talented and it's being wasted with a guy who has been obsessed with attempting to mock Trump but it's a flimsy façade for a guy who is just really fucking angry MAGA people exist, and his comedy doesn't work now because Trump really got to him and it sort of broke his brain permanently.
Of course, Heidecker wants people to pay for the On Cinema Oscar Special now, so I just watched the YouTube stream Gregg Turkington did on his phone, ha. Turkington is the only reason I bothered to watch it, On Cinema lost a lot of the funny because of Heidecker, Turkington is so talented and it's being wasted with a guy who has been obsessed with attempting to mock Trump but it's a flimsy façade for a guy who is just really fucking angry MAGA people exist, and his comedy doesn't work now because Trump really got to him and it sort of broke his brain permanently.
To be honest, I'm not sure how much more it can tank. There's probably still enough boomers as it is that watches telly.Let's see if the 2022 Oscars will said to the 2021 Oscars about the ratings: "Hold my beer" by having much awful ratings.
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Just watched the In Memorian segment, which is being quite trashed by people and I agree with all the reasons.
The whole segment is about 4m40s and 1.30 of it it's the announcer talking abotu covid and SJ shit. And then, each celebrity is shown 1 freaking second. The ones with more time were the last two: Sean Connery and Chadwick Boseman. Why does Chadwick has more relevance than Dianna Rigg or Christopher Plummer and their careers? We get it, he's black.
Just compare with one I really liked from about 30 years ago:
The whole segment is about 4m40s and 1.30 of it it's the announcer talking abotu covid and SJ shit. And then, each celebrity is shown 1 freaking second. The ones with more time were the last two: Sean Connery and Chadwick Boseman. Why does Chadwick has more relevance than Dianna Rigg or Christopher Plummer and their careers? We get it, he's black.
Just compare with one I really liked from about 30 years ago:
Yeah that's upsetting especially the fact that Dianna Rigg and Christopher Plummer are legends. Yes Chadwick was a good actor. But come on this just seems rude
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There are more names: Ian Holmes, Joel Schumacher, etc. And other behind the camera names. I get blacks are trendy now, but these people also deserved respect.
This is part of the reason I haven't given up hope just yet. The Oscars rating decline, along with other institutions that've subscribed to the religion of Woke (NFL, NBA, etc.) is a sign that the pendulum is slowly, but surely, swinging back.
Streaming really is the way of the future, it's just 1000 times more convenient to be able to watch something when you're ready as opposed to having to be on time.
Live broadcast television is probably going to go the way analog broadcast TV did in 2009.
Never forget the normie factor, normies are left scratching their heads by Woke as well, if even something like the NFL and NBA are hit by ratings decline that's a very good sign.
That's the big reason why sports television rights fees skyrocketed. In theory, live sports are something people have to watch live, so they actually had to watch commercials. Even with the advent of DVR, actual ratings showed that people very rarely watched sports on delay.
Except now sports ratings are plummetting across the board. So it'll be interesting when the current TV contracts come up how the rights fees are affected. Apparently the NHL didn't get as much as they thought, but the NHL has always been kinda low.
Also, I wonder if we start to see companies just buy companies outright for the content? Like, ESPN is playing something like $300M per year for five years for UFC. This was two years after UFC was bought for $4 billion. I wonder if ESPN regrets not just buying UFC outright? Same for WWE as well; they are getting paid something ridiculous like $205M/year for Raw and $175M for Smackdown. I wonder if a network just convinces Vince McMahon to sell in a couple years.
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I'm seeing every day more normies becoming aware of what's going on. The discussion of woke taking over is no more a discussion that only happens in KF-like boards and people aren't liking it.
Line Of Duty.
Record audiences this week and the finale this Sunday which is slated to beat that too.
Other than that, yeah I can't think of anything else on the telly that more people are watching now, maybe Gogglebox...
Like the overwhelming majority of Americans, I also didn't watch the Oscars; I briefly considered watching YMS's live commentary but decided to watch an old MST3K episode instead. I believe my time was well-spent.
Not surprised by the results. I only saw two movies out of all the categories (Tenet and Judas and the Black Messiah), so I have no real opinions on what should or shouldn't have won, just shitposting comments. Hollywood paying homage to Winnie the Pooh by giving Best Picture and Director to the Chinese, gotta love that forced diversity (also I believe another kiwi over in the Moviebob thread said she's a complete nepotism hire so hah whatever). Glad that Anthony Hopkins and Frances McDormand won their respective Oscars, both because I enjoy them as actors and because of all the butthurt that the Wakanda crowd exuded when Hopkins won (props to him for not even being there to pick it up and dealing with the more important family matters). Pixar picks up yet another easy win with another bland movie because the Academy gives zero shits about animation and just throws it at whatever Disney shits out every year. Heard that Another Round is good, and as a Mads Mikkelsen fan, I really need to put that on my to-watch list.
All in all, a pathetic showing. Shit movies that nobody watched, Hollywood scolding us for being normal, just nothing but retardation all around. Best to just ignore them and move on with our lives.
Not surprised by the results. I only saw two movies out of all the categories (Tenet and Judas and the Black Messiah), so I have no real opinions on what should or shouldn't have won, just shitposting comments. Hollywood paying homage to Winnie the Pooh by giving Best Picture and Director to the Chinese, gotta love that forced diversity (also I believe another kiwi over in the Moviebob thread said she's a complete nepotism hire so hah whatever). Glad that Anthony Hopkins and Frances McDormand won their respective Oscars, both because I enjoy them as actors and because of all the butthurt that the Wakanda crowd exuded when Hopkins won (props to him for not even being there to pick it up and dealing with the more important family matters). Pixar picks up yet another easy win with another bland movie because the Academy gives zero shits about animation and just throws it at whatever Disney shits out every year. Heard that Another Round is good, and as a Mads Mikkelsen fan, I really need to put that on my to-watch list.
All in all, a pathetic showing. Shit movies that nobody watched, Hollywood scolding us for being normal, just nothing but retardation all around. Best to just ignore them and move on with our lives.
It borders on parody, honestly. I mean, Boseman was a good actor and it's tragic that he died so young and so suddenly, but they're practically deifying him. It's like they forgot that Black Panther was just a movie and Wakanda isn't real. He's not a king, people, he's just a fucking actor.
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Chinese government are pissed about that win
And the Oscar for Censorship Goes to Xi Jinping
When celebrated Chinese writers, artists, and athletes decide not to follow the CCP’s script of “China’s story” but instead speak their minds on the global stage, they are often censored.
Just watch Nomadland and you might get why it won. Zhao has been on an upwards trajectory for a while and produces legit kino that as stated by a kiwi in this very thread, brings a beautiful vision of Middle America. If anything I am afraid her stock might get hurt for agreeing to direct the soon-to-be clusterfuck that is Disney's Eternals.
Close. Hopkins is only in Silence of the Lambs for about half an hour total, IIRC, but still went into Best Actor over Supporting. Honestly, I can see both sides, because by one metric he clearly is a supporting role, but by another - what's the most memorable aspect of that film, especially culturally?
Also, Anne Hathaway only won Best Supporting Actress, which is fair. 15 minutes isn't even the least screentime an actor has had to win - both Judi Dench and Beatrice Straight won for roles that were in less than 10 minutes of their movies.
Parasite was a deserved winner. They wouldn't worry about a lecture from him, though - he's Asian. As #Oscarssowhite demonstrated from a few years back, the real pushback is only when black people get passed over. See the people mad Chadwick Boseman didn't win Best Actor this year. They complain all the time about Best Director, ignoring that in the last decade more than half have been latino and now we have an Asian woman who won.
His was one of the speeches I appreciated, because his no hatred list included white people and police. It was about sending a positive message to all, rather than only the people currently in vogue to give a shit about. I don't care about a single thing he produces (though he works in Gone Girl) but he seems like he's genuinely trying to help.
Most of the speeches were too long, though - it really needed that 'the orchestra will drown you out after 90 seconds' thing they usually have. I did enjoy a few - Frances McDormand telling everyone to go back to the cinemas and then keeping her Best Actress speech very short and related to her character was great. The little old Korean lady who won Best Supporting Actress (which, I haven't seen Minari, but made me think, 'Oh, I'm guessing she dies in the film then') was rambling and fun. And when Thomas Vinterberg said, 'One last thing,' I was over it, but he then talked about his daughter who died just before filming and was meant to be in the movie, and it was moving and the only time a speech that could have been cut short had a reason to go long.
Yeah, he's devastating in The Father. Haven't seen the other performances, but it was by no means an undeserving performance.
I don't think they mentioned Trump once, actually. But it was definitely the Bloscars, because they really wanted to make a big deal about 'no, we're not stodgy white people, will care about the 13%!' The 'guess the nomination' Best Song segment should have been right up my alley, but it really flopped and flopped hard, and maybe it wasn't the greatest idea to point out in-ceremony the times when you think the Oscars have gotten it wrong. Glenn Close knowing about 'Da Butt' was funny, and though I'm 99% sure she was told the specific details, I'd actually believe she's the sort of person who would know her movie trivia well enough to get that question right.
One of the main reasons they expanded the Best Picture field to more than five is because the Oscars are more popular in years where people have seen the films nominated, so it allows some bigger films that might not fit into the Oscar-bait category get nominations, like Mad Max: Fury Road and Black Panther. So I do think the pandemic was a big reason for the lower ratings, because people just weren't talking about movies as much. Not going to the cinema means not seeing all the ads for other films, not talking about the movies you've seen, not having as strong a connection to some films which comes from seeing them in that setting - just in general movies felt like they were only talked about in terms of their absence, rather than people talking about watching them.
The nominated films are likely pretty solid. Nomadland and The Father I thought were both very good in very different ways, and they're not about wokeness at all. Nomadland is about people, mostly middle-aged and older, mostly white, who are very poor, but finding what freedom and community they can. The Father is pretty clearly based on a play, but is a very hard watch about a man's dementia but in a much more interesting, more internal way than the more maudlin way that it's usually dealt with. The Oscars are, it's true, often obsessed with 'issue' movies - but what makes it worse now is the wokescolds. Partly because it's never enough. But also because they only care about their issues, and so if that's not catered to, then they get up in arms. Chadwick Boseman didn't win? Must be because he's black, couldn't at all be because if you've seen The Father then you can completely see why Anthony Hopkins won.
There's so many things that are causes, but it's being demanded that you care about this cause that they are pushing, and if you don't, you're a bad person. No, wait, you haven't realised they're mad about this cause now? Guess you're still a Nazi. And because they're so shallow, it remains only about the surface level. Doesn't matter if another film was better, this was a film about the black experience so it should have won everything. Oh, wait, we care about Asians this week - Minari should have won everything. And if you disagree you're the devil.
Tl;dr: The ceremony sucked. Frances McDormand is cool. Wokeness isn't the same as political - so some moments here and there were one without the other. And while you can certainly judge movies without having seen them - the academy seems to do that all the time - if all you do is see the judgement of films through the prism of idpol, then you're a moron whose opinion can be safely discarded.
This is very commonplace. Marlon Brando won for The Godfather despite being in less than half of the film. Robert Duvall was nominated for Apocalypse Now despite being in the film for only 11 minutes. Mahershala Ali won and Naomi Harris were nominated for Moonlighting despite being in the film for around 10 minutes and doing no more than a couple of days worth of work. Of course, Vito Corleone and Kilgore has memorable lines and delivery. Not too sure about Moonlighting.
It should be mentioned that the films and works he directs and produce are utter garbage, even though his speech wasn't. They certainly don't help what he preaches, though.
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