Overestimating Chris -

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random_pickle

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At some point in time, we've all have thought "Chris isn't that stupid" or something along the lines of that.

When I read Sonichu fanfictions, I see Chris doing or saying some really stupid/immoral shit. Seeing this, I always thought to myself "wow, they're really demonizing him". But then I read some of the phone calls and Q&As.

The following is a passage from the fanfic "CWCville Negotiator" on Deviantart:

He looked at the sonee and recognized it immediately. "Aw, wittle Ky-wol Sonee!" He cooed, reaching for the sonee. The child squeaked and mustered everything he could to avoid the fat man's arms. Prickly things awaited any sonee that ended up in a human's hands, he knew. He didn't know a lot, but he wouldn't forget that. But, damn them, his legs weren't fast enough to let him escape. The mayor wrapped his sausage fingers around him and lifted him up. The smell was overwhelming, but the sonee was lifted high and far away enough to escape the foul aura.

"Wittle Ky-wol! I bet your momma and papa miss you and are oh-so-sad. And wook at, wook at awl your boo-boos. We're gonna make dat mean ol twoll pay for dat, ain't we?"

The sonee wasn't keen on revenge just now. He would have rather have had food. The last thing he'd eaten was lying on the floor next to a wastebasket, sobbing. He remembered some horrible toy in the Laughyland that was shaped just like that wastebasket, and suddenly his hunger began to fade away.

"No wuv wosey…" the rosey next to the basket said.

In the opposite corner, the one wearing the skin of her sweetheart nuzzled with the mirror.

"Dhat one is da Vain and Aloof Type," Chris said, "sometimes, sometimes da boys like ta do dat too. He probably woulda been a good match for Sonichu's little Christine." The mayor said this with a tinge of uncertainty in his voice. There was something weird about that sonee, but he didn't remember. It'd randomly come back to him later, he thought. He turned his attention back to the child in his arms.

Ky-wol, apparently his name now, realized that even with one ear and eye missing, he was the most normal of the three left, which is why he had to deal with this now.

"Dhis is how, dhis is how it's going to work dhen, Ky-wol," Chris said, "Ky-wol Sonee is da son of Blachu and Bubbles Rosechu. Blachu, Black Sonichu wants you to grow up to be a Black Sonichu dhere too, like fahder like son…" he stopped to stare intently at Ky-wol at his mention of fathers and sons. "Uh, but Ky-wol wants ta be a Great Hero like Sonichu! All zappin' and super strong! So dhen you'll have da stress dhere. Jus' just like in da Lion King Two. Ye-yeah, dhat'll be your bi, be your biography." He set Ky-wol down, and the sonee instinctively fled. "Now dhen… how do ya evolve a sonee inta da Sonichu again?"

If you didn't get it, in this scene Chris decides to create a new chaotic combo. He finds a sonee left behind and immediatly creates its backstory and gives it a name, regardless of how the person in question felt about it. The sonee in the story has a mind of his own and doesn't want to be called Kyle sonee.

When reading this I thought to my self "At least Chris would'nt do that in real life", but then I looked through the CWCki. I'm not talking about when Chris took Asperchu. With that he at least never lied about stealing from Leary. I'm referring to not only the Simonla fiasco, but the creation of Layla Flaffy:

He asked about my Sonichu character. I completely blanked. I had briefly mentioned the existence of such during our initial call to get onto his good side. I told him my character's name was Luckette. Chris was disgusted and thought this name sounded “too French”. He recommended something more American, like Daisy!

I had to rush to draw my character and I sent him that. I included some fan art along the way, too. The drawing of my Sonichu character got cropped in Gimp so it dropped the 'e' from the end of “Luckette”. Chris really hated this change. He added that I could improve on my handwriting, too. “You could write hearts over the 'I's".

From the get-go, he would never complement my drawings. He would always find something wrong with them. Like, "This character looks like she has three legs and very bruised eyes”.

He asked me about the drawing of myself. He wanted to know if “the drawing was true to real life”. I didn’t know what to say, so he added: "Is it accurate?". I agreed. He did a nervous laugh and said: "Woahhhh, I could get use to that”!

We then had a really deep discussion about what my character was. Instead of a sheep, Chris said she could be a Flaffy. I mentioned Mareeps and was quickly shut down. Chris than went on about a Sneasel named Reginald…

Chris returned to the subject of names. He insisted that he didn't approve of the French name, or the cropped out “e”. I gave in. I told him I was going to change it to a few other things but he wasn’t pleased with any of these suggestions, either. Finally, I came up with Layla next. I chose Layla because it sounded like a hooker's name- not because of Clapton (though I do like that song!). I thought Chris would moan but he was thrilled. She sounded beautiful!

"I bet my Reginald would find your Layla VERY sexy! I think Reginald would like to take Layla on a date. I think Reginald would like to Layla to McDonald's…”

Chris suddenly told me that he wanted the two to get busy in the McDonald's bathroom. “I bet that before the second part of their date, they could take a potty break and Reginald would leave the door open to be a flirt and they could exchange some kisses," Chris told me. Chris also made mention of them washing their hands together.

Just like Chris wasn’t won over by my names, I wasn’t exactly buying the idea of Layla hooking up with this Reginald. I told Chris that Layla would find Punchy more her type. She's into the Asian persuasion, y’know. Chris was caught off guard.

He could have sworn I knew that Punchy and Angelica was an item. I replied that not everyone ends up with their sweetheart. Chris didn't end up with YOUR high school sweetheart, did he? Nope. Well, nor did I- as I was presently single, after all. “that makes the two of us," Chris giggled. I said the two people could fall in love at any point in their life. He got excited and declared that meant Angelica could help Reginald feel better about himself.
 

BillRiley

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Not entirely sure what your point is here, r_p. Yes, Chris will take anything he finds appealing and incorporate it into his fantasy world, be it a line of toys or a tv show or a cartoon character. And, yes, he appears to have trouble sharply defining the line between the real world and his fantasy world.

The whole point of 'Cwcville' is to create a place where Chris can understand the rules and make accurate predictions based on them. Most people with autism do this because, for a variety of reasons, the real world makes little sense to them. With therapy, most autistic people transition away from their (sometimes intensely detailed) fantasy worlds. Chris, of course, appears to have received little of this kind of help beyond a few high school "coping" classes.

So I'm not sure what you mean by "over-estimating" what Chris would or would not do. He lives by an internal set of rules, often seemingly bizarre and incomprehensible to us as much as our rules are bizarre and incomprehensible to him.
 

LordCustos3

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Um...This is because Da Great Director Chandler is a greedy control freak with a very, very, VERY small pool of inspiration/ideas from which to build his electric hedgehog utopia with. He must steal and remold everything he gets his grubby mitts onto.
 

snowkitten91

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My take is that, after reading some Chris-related fiction, at first you can't believe that he could be THAT bad, but then, you read something that's related to him irl and discover that he can.

I mean, just look at some of the last Sonichu comics where lots of people (normal humans) die and Chris doesn't seem to give a simple :pickle: about it when giving the death statistics. (Totally not unnerving at all...)
 

random_pickle

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snowkitten91 said:
My take is that, after reading some Chris-related fiction, at first you can't believe that he could be THAT bad, but then, you read something that's related to him irl and discover that he can.

I mean, just look at some of the last Sonichu comics where lots of people (normal humans) die and Chris doesn't seem to give a simple :pickle: about it when giving the death statistics. (Totally not unnerving at all...)

Pretty much that I guess :oops:
 

snowkitten91

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random_pickle said:
Pretty much that I guess :oops:

It's okay, random_pickle, there's no need to feel embarrassed. After all, all of this is stuff that Chris Chan has already proven that he would indeed do if he had the power to do so. (Sonichu 10, anyone?)
 

Alec Benson Leary

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BillRiley said:
So I'm not sure what you mean by "over-estimating" what Chris would or would not do. He lives by an internal set of rules, often seemingly bizarre and incomprehensible to us as much as our rules are bizarre and incomprehensible to him.
My fellow experts and I are working on creating a Unified Theory of CWC. I think the first law will be something like "If something feels good or Chris wants something to be that way, then to him this is as good as actually being that way".
 

GFYS

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I'm one of those people that always assumes the worst of Chris, which has set me at odds with some folks in the CWCkiverse, but I often feel vindicated when I read Chris - in his own words - promoting some pretty terrible sentiments and behavior. I've been a little more willing to give him credit for a few of his... uhm... well, not "positive," but "less shitty" traits, as of late. Still, I find that if you assume the worst, Chris will usually find a way to meet your expectations, and then dig even deeper.
 

snowkitten91

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GFYS said:
Still, I find that if you assume the worst, Chris will usually find a way to meet your expectations, and then dig even deeper.

In my case, this happened with the May 1 leaked email. We already knew that Chris was abandoning the Church (until he needs Rocky again, that is) but, who would've thought that the manbaby would one day have the audaciousness to dare to admit to wanting to torture the Almighty GodJesus who created Chris Chan in the first place?! :o
 

Varis

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Now that I think about it, the Date-Ed love square WAS uncharacteristically complex for OPL's writing. Goddammit Chris.
 
Q

QI 541

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I thought Chris wanted to blow up Snyder from one of his Facebook posts, but he specifically mentions that he wanted to avoid having anyone die. Surprised me, given how much he's wished death upon people for even less.
 

CatParty

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GFYS said:
I'm one of those people that always assumes the worst of Chris, which has set me at odds with some folks in the CWCkiverse, but I often feel vindicated when I read Chris - in his own words - promoting some pretty terrible sentiments and behavior. I've been a little more willing to give him credit for a few of his... uhm... well, not "positive," but "less shitty" traits, as of late. Still, I find that if you assume the worst, Chris will usually find a way to meet your expectations, and then dig even deeper.


i fully agree. i do not feel a-loggish if i find no redeeming qualities about him and he constantly proves this right. for the most part, his actions are pretty harmless (except to himself), if not amusing.
 

Holdek

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My opinion of Chris, intellectually, morally, whatever, has, and still continues to, go down the more I learn about him.
 

Tubular Monkey

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He is, and always will be, a neglected special needs child. I have no expectations of him doing anything substantial or meaningful with his life. The best hope for him and those around him is for him to simply stay out of the way and not cause trouble. He is long past the point of being redeemable. Chris, just don't hit anyone else with your car, and play your video games until your heart attack comes.
 
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