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Cyclonus

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What annoys me is when feminists complain about men being over represented in the upper echelons but throw a fit when you point out you can say the same thing about Jews. Statistically speaking both observations are correct, so why is it acceptable to complain about one and not the other?
 

Fangsofjeff

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What annoys me is when feminists complain about men being over represented in the upper echelons but throw a fit when you point out you can say the same thing about Jews. Statistically speaking both observations are correct, so why is it acceptable to complain about one and not the other?
For the same reason speaking up about arab rape gangs is problematic. SJWs don't use their brain.
 

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I think you can criticize Israel without being antiSemetic. Otherwise, criticizing America would mean you hate Christians, and criticizing China would mean yu hate Atheists, and criticizing Saudi Arabia or Turkey would mean you are Islamophobic.
 

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While I can at least understand hate of jews stemming from nepotistic behaviour and unsavoury business practices (at least as long as those practices weren't common by just as many christians), the one form of hate I can't see as anything but autistic is the "saboteurs of the west".
There are couple of reasons why it's ridiculous:
First, Jews will fucking argue about anything, so any notion of some organized behaviour is outlandish, shit Israel is likely to have the fourth election in 2 years.
Second, it makes no sense that the west economy and culture got into their zenith in around the 80s/90's and it's a part of a long con from the side of Jews trying to take it down, despite being responsible for lots of economical and cultural milestones. All the while Asians bite into positions of Jews in both tech and media.
But the biggest problem is that the idea is just made to justify why non-Jews acting in a way that's against the person's political ideology. It's ironically an anti-christian idea because it portrays the majority of christians as sheep who will walk to the slaughter because they are too dumb to realize that the Jews lie to them.
 

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People who are against Zionism are very often strawmanned by those for it as just being filthy bigotted Anti-Semites.
TBH, it's Anti-Semites (in the sense that mainstream polite society uses the phrase) who are wronged by being grouped with Anti-Zionists.

Noticing things in your own country that you're not supposed to notice, like how the movement to force "woke" culture, "Social Justice", and socialism on White people is predominately driven by rich Atheist Socialist Ashkenazi Jews -- that doesn't make you a sped.

On the other hand, if you have a fanatical hate-boner for some tiny non-shithole country in a shithole region half a globe away, to the point where you foam at the mouth over every insignificant little thing their government does or is accused of doing (and hold them to an irrational standard you would hold no other government or people to), then yeah, you're a sped.
 
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Fangsofjeff

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Since this is one of the only platforms where literal nazis and Jews can post side by side, I figured I'd start a discussion thread. I believe that the best way to get close to the truth is to listen to everyone's opinion.

Personally, I like Jews. I'm part Ashkenazi and nearly every American Jew I've met behaved similarly to Whites of their social class. That being said, I think there's some truth to "antisemitic" conspiracy theories. The holocaust seems to have been exaggerated and politicized in such a way to help the creation of Israel and exert control over Americans of all races. It turned antisemitism into a giant taboo which is now used by shitty Jews like George Soros as a shield against criticism.

So. Do you think Jews are good for society, or are they a problem? Discuss.
 

Aidan

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I was right when I called you a Nazi. Take that, big git.

I'm no expert on jews and I don't try to be, but to me it seems like there's far more going on than just some big ol jewish conspiracy, especially internationally. I believe like with any culture/religion there are factions and a lot of internal squabbles and there's not a single jew mold.
On the flip side there certainly are a lot of powerful jews all over the world and I think many jews behave like indians and try to hire jews and work with jews over non-jews as that seems to be the easiest explanation as how to how any sort of elite jewish cabal could form over time.
The jewish community is garbage though, at least in the US, especially orthodox jews. Those stereotypes seem to ring true in many cases and they do a pretty good job of getting people to hate them.

The Jewish question/conspiracy I think is misdirected and is an "elite" thing above all else.

All that said, I understand why people don't like jews in the US and every prominent jewish organization is fucked beyond repair and are way too influential on the nation as a whole for things that have nothing to do with jews or the jewish community.
I also believe many prominent Americans with duel citizenship with Israel do have dual loyalties and that it's a problem. The real issue is you can't even talk about this in the open or you're literally hitler and if you work in any decent career you can very well become effectively blacklisted and your life ruined for daring to criticize anything jewish or israeli, then they wonder why people end up associating in dark corners of the net with people who really do want to kill all jews.

tl;dr it's complicated and i think the "you cant touch us" shit creates more people who dislike juice than anything
 

Lissamine Green

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I think there are malignant aspects to the culture. Not every Jewish person grows up embedded in that culture, and not every one who grows up with it "takes" to it. But some of the stuff about their disdain for other people, the nepotism, the superiority complex, is true. There's more to it than that, but it's late and meh. Maybe tomorrow.
 

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I think there are malignant aspects to the culture. Not every Jewish person grows up embedded in that culture, and not every one who grows up with it "takes" to it. But some of the stuff about their disdain for other people, the nepotism, the superiority complex, is true. There's more to it than that, but it's late and meh. Maybe tomorrow.
Interesting. I'm not deeply involved with Jewish culture so I didn't know about that. Is it mostly the hyper religious Jews who absorb those toxic aspects? 🤔

Circumcision is pretty malignant, too. Everyone cries about Muslims doing FGM but nobody is allowed to speak up about Jews doing MGM. Tikkun olam means rules for thee but not for me, I guess.
 
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Forgetful Gynn

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Do you think Jews are good for society, or are they a problem?
They're great for their societies.

While I don't like their methods I certainly can't fault them for wanting to secure the existence of their people and a future for their children. Are they bad for other societies? They certainly can be both at the elite level and on the level of the average schlomo, but again this is true for all races to varying degrees. Races have never and should never put other races above their own, so such behavior is to be expected. What is different about Jews is how they go about securing their existence. They use money and cultural subversion to "peacefully" genocide people that might threaten them. Domesticating them instead of decimating them, corrupting them instead of castrating them, replacing them instead of exterminating them. They got really good at these things because for thousands of years they either weren't capable or weren't allowed to do much of anything else and that "artificial selection" of the jewiest of the jew has only exacerbated their "negative" cultural/genetic behaviors and most importantly, their paranoia of other races.

If it's true that collectively, because of the Rothschilds, they have more than half of the total money on the planet and it's true that money equals power, then any race they deem a threat is pretty much fucked. The world has been cooled and solidified largely by their influence on cultures and politics under the guise of "spreading peace and democracy". Conquest and seizing of assets and territory is something nations or groups cannot effectively do anymore and they already have more money than any other group, so what can you really do to fight it? They can buy anyone who can be bought and they can kill anyone who doesn't have a price. Elections are cheap, influence and blackmail are as easy as inviting someone to a weekend getaway at a private island. Small nations can be kept in check by the bigger ones so long as you hold the political reigns of those nations. If you own enough media companies it doesn't matter if the others contradict the narratives you put out. With enough money you can erase people, history, ideas, anything.

The crafting of such a subtle knife really does speak to their high average IQ, but as I said I find such methods utterly contemptible. I wish they would just fight us properly and go about it like good sports. Crushing their enemies, seeing them driven before them, hearing the lamentations of their women, that sort of thing. But that's my European genes and culture talking.

Morally speaking, which is the "right" way to win? The races of Men are what they are, wild animals with the will to survive and (so far) the ability, against all forms of competition. Unless one accepts that, anything one says about morals, war, politics—you name it—is nonsense. The universe will let us know, later, which one was "right".
 

Fangsofjeff

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They're great for their societies.

While I don't like their methods I certainly can't fault them for wanting to secure the existence of their people and a future for their children. Are they bad for other societies? They certainly can be both at the elite level and on the level of the average schlomo, but again this is true for all races to varying degrees. Races have never and should never put other races above their own, so such behavior is to be expected. What is different about Jews is how they go about securing their existence. They use money and cultural subversion to "peacefully" genocide people that might threaten them. Domesticating them instead of decimating them, corrupting them instead of castrating them, replacing them instead of exterminating them. They got really good at these things because for thousands of years they either weren't capable or weren't allowed to do much of anything else and that "artificial selection" of the jewiest of the jew has only exacerbated their "negative" cultural/genetic behaviors and most importantly, their paranoia of other races.

If it's true that collectively, because of the Rothschilds, they have more than half of the total money on the planet and it's true that money equals power, then any race they deem a threat is pretty much fucked. The world has been cooled and solidified largely by their influence on cultures and politics under the guise of "spreading peace and democracy". Conquest and seizing of assets and territory is something nations or groups cannot effectively do anymore and they already have more money than any other group, so what can you really do to fight it? They can buy anyone who can be bought and they can kill anyone who doesn't have a price. Elections are cheap, influence and blackmail are as easy as inviting someone to a weekend getaway at a private island. Small nations can be kept in check by the bigger ones so long as you hold the political reigns of those nations. If you own enough media companies it doesn't matter if the others contradict the narratives you put out. With enough money you can erase people, history, ideas, anything.

The crafting of such a subtle knife really does speak to their high average IQ, but as I said I find such methods utterly contemptible. I wish they would just fight us properly and go about it like good sports. Crushing their enemies, seeing them driven before them, hearing the lamentations of their women, that sort of thing. But that's my European genes and culture talking.

Morally speaking, which is the "right" way to win? The races of Men are what they are, wild animals with the will to survive and (so far) the ability, against all forms of competition. Unless one accepts that, anything one says about morals, war, politics—you name it—is nonsense. The universe will let us know, later, which one was "right".
Anyone can convert to Judaism and join their club, though. It's particularly easy for white people to pass for Ashkenazi. For that reason, I'm not sure the Jews are much of a threat.
 

Aidan

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Interesting. I'm not deeply involved with Jewish culture so I didn't know about that. Is it mostly the hyper religious Jews who absorb those toxic aspects? 🤔

Circumcision is pretty malignant, too. Everyone cries about Muslims doing FGM but nobody is allowed to speak up about Jews doing MGM. Tikkun olam means rules for thee but not for me, I guess.
Can't speak for them but I think it goes well beyond religion, regarding "jewiness". Many powerful jews are not religious.
My view is basically what @Forgetful Gynn touched on regarding securing a future for their own kind. It seems like the jew club, practicing or not, tend to have those negative characteristics associated with jews all around the world. Subversion, greed, "us v them", using others for dirty work both literally and figuratively.
You won't find many jews doing blue collar work or even in the enlisted ranks. Stop by a university and head to the weekly jewish meetup and you'll see plenty of students.
Though I think there are positive stereotypes people tend not to acknowledge because no one wants to say anything nice. Jews seem to do well academically and it's not all bullshit, and if jews are kings of subversion and soft genocide then that coordination and strategic planning have to be carried out by smarties.
I've not known a whole lot of jews but of the few I've known, none were retarded. Not all were necessarily smart, but I'd say they were all competent.

In any case, enough notable jews exemplify every negative trait associated with them and that's all it takes to make people fed up and want the rest of the gang to fuck off or die.
 
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