Went to petco yesterday and there was a tortoise in the turtle display. I had to explain to them the difference between a tortoise and a turtle
I almost bought the poor thing for fear of its life.
Sorry to necro the thread but shit fucking blew up. I have a headache and I'm very emotional but I need to just get it out.
I took ^him off my relatives hands. The poor baby has really bad metabolic bone disease, he just started being able to move maybe a millimeter every few hours (if that, but it's something) and the only way I can get him to eat is to shove a bit of food into his mouth as he twitches. I let him soak a bit in the morning and at night, and I've been trying my best to make sure he's as comfortable as possible. I've taken him to two pet stores and a vet to get their opinions on him (I trust all the people involved), it's unlikely he'll be able to walk normally but he's improving. He's been getting better and I'm proud of the little guy, he's such a little trooper... but the relative I took him from doesn't think he's that bad, that I'm doing anything special, that she can do it better than I can, and has even told me. Multiple. Fucking. Times.
I was gonna stop at that, I had it all typed up yesterday, I got scared off of posting but then shit hit the fan.
I'd almost lost him about five days in, I'm pretty sure the MBD and the stress of a new environment just got the best of him. I told her this, she said "Maybe it's because you took him out of my house", her house is disgusting, she has emphysema and can't even breathe in the damn thing because she never fucking cleans. She's said that she can do shit just as well as I can, when all she's done is pinch at his (by a vet's own admission) "atrophying" legs instead of working them and making him stand up on them, as well as hanging him by his front feet at the top of his cage.
She's been trying to tell me that he's been doing so well for her, he was standing and everything was fine, trying to rub it in my face that she can do what I've been doing, even though she's had him for 3 years, he's had to go in for two different rounds of calcium shots btw (and it was only after my insistence that she even took him to the vet).
My family is going through a war, everyone's fighting with each other over the stupidest of shit (this relative is in the middle of it, instigating it all) and today she texted me, called me insensitive for taking him "under the guise that she was gonna get him back" and it hurt her, he's been in her family for three years now. She claimed it not to be a money thing but when I got on the phone with her she threatened to sue me, I told her to go ahead. I told her I'd pay her for him, she said $800, I said what ever it took, she then refused. We struck up an agreement after we calmed down a bit (I was crying), I'd get to keep him for two weeks and we'd take him to the vet to let them decide.
A few hours later I decided I couldn't do, I was way too stressed, if he was just going to relapse it would be better to not have to suffer for much longer, so I called her up and told her to come get him. She brought her neighbor (who's father just passed away two days ago and shouldn't be dealing with this shit) and blamed me, "I was just starting to find a positive him being with you, but you couldn't even give me a day."
I feel like shit, but I'm done with her.
I still don't know if I'm getting him back but she is considering it and knows that the only way I'll take him is if she relinquishes him to me. I really don't want to go through that shit again. I do know that he is going to be getting calcium shots over the course of the next few weeks. She said the vet sounded positive, I'm still worried because I'm a worrywart but I'm just glad his vet is involved. Also, the two vets he's been to have said he still has a few years left in him, he hasn't given up yet.
I probably won't post about this again until it's decided if I get him back or not, or shit hits the fan again. Only time will tell.
The worst kind of petowners are the ones that get a pet just to show it off to others (and then post the "omg i luv him so much happy birthday to my cute dog" on facebook)
Ah yes.. I think my friend is one of those. She had a pet bird for about 6 months before it passed away (no diagnosis) and talked about how she was training to have it make r2d2 sounds and other nerdy things. It was named Gandalf and she was trying to teach it to say "Fly you fools" for epic facebook stickers.
She would always repost the dead bird on facebook for sympathy and one day got a new bird, Baggins this time. Well suffice to say she posted her replacement for a couple of weeks and then softly dropped the bird off of her page. I think the bird died and shes refusing to acknowledge it because then she seems like a bad owner.
Now she's moved onto mammals, got a rabbit now.
Can never understand how it's legal to sell those Crab torture devices aka "starter kits".I think declawing cats just cause people don't want to get scratched or have their furniture clawed up should be an illegal. I know 2 people who have declawed cats and I just don't understand. If you can't take the claws, why get the cat? Like I used to get pinched by hermit crabs (well, just 1 of them was the big offended) all the time and I just deal with it because that's what they do and it comes with the package.
Speaking of cutting of things that shouldn't be cut off, I want to punch people right in the nuts who de-fang their tarantulas. Because of the nature of the spider's digestive system it can only eat liquid so when it catches it's prey it injects venom from it's fangs to liquify the insides and then it drinks them, with the fangs gone the animal physically cannot eat. If you can't accept that if you own tarantulas, sooner or later you will be bitten, perhaps a tarantula is not the right animal for you. Some pet stores do this to the tarantulas they sell and it just boggles the mind.
I also have so, so many stories about extreme hermit crab neglect and abuse, people tend not to care about their welfare because "they're just bugs"
Some of you may know that before THE INCIDENT, I used to rescue hermit crabs and had a large tank they all lived in. Anyway the people I got them from every single time are like "the kids got bored come take them" put in the conditons of my tank, at least one crab was always out and about which is a testimate to the care they were given in my tank since hermies are generally nocturnal. Anyway, crabs need humidity to physcially breathe, in conditons with humdity lower than 70% they aren't as active, under 60% will cause irreversible gill damage and they will actually start to slowly suffocate to death (the proper conditons are 80%) and of course all of these tanks the crabs came in were bone dry with less than an inch of substrate and always pellet food (which is actually toxic to them) so no shit the kids got bored because the crabs were in the corner slowly dying. Also whenever I took in crabs they always gave me "supplies" and it was all useless shit like "hermit crab salt" (the only salt water mix suitable for hermit crabs is marine grade stuff like instant ocean because it successfully recreates the trace minerals needed for their continued health) "hermit crab food" (read: toxic shit) and sponges which only harbor bacteria and smell funny are are usless unless you want to break them into small pieces and feed to the crabs.
Also if you keep a crab in a wire cage on gravel I will come to your house and give you dirty looks from across the street and steal your crab when you're not looking because no sensible human can look at that and say "yes, a living creature would be happy in there"
-Most of my childhood and teenage years were spent competitively riding horses, and I've seen far too many little girls and families way in over their heads who've leased ponies and have no idea how to take care of them. Ponies with overgrown coats caked with shit in the summer being put into the ring, little kids yanking them around the showgrounds, or parents making their kids show horses that are clearly to big or hot-tempered for them to handle, endangering the safety of everyone else showing alongside them. Plus crazy trainers chewing out their riders for placing less than first and beating horses to get them to stop spooking (spoiler: that doesn't work). This sport is largely female-dominated, and it's as much of a catty mess as a dance competition. God forbid you try to help someone with their horse, lest you be accused of sabotage.
Pet stores are downright HORRIBLE at giving animal-related advice. If you ask them something that should be common sense about an animal, they still manage to get it wrong. As a result, people are buying shitty plastic prisons for their hamsters, putting bettas in bowls with no filter, and sticking rabbits in cages. I’m glad that Petsmart and Petco stopped selling rabbits bc if they didnt, i couldnt imagine what deplorable conditions ppl would be putting them in. I’ve also noticed that pet stores don’t sell any hamster cages that are actually adequate for hamsters. Its disturbing and it shows that pet stores’ real motives are profit and not the well being of animals. The best thing you can really do is educate the consumers bc unfortunately, big box pet stores wont budge.

