Seriously, who outside very niche forums dedicated to farming in New Zealand know about Ollie, especially pre-transition?
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Kanuckski
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It's really hard to pin down a typical "Canadian" dialect. Because Canada as a country wasn't necessarily created from a genuine desire from its people as much as a command from higher up. "You guys are all a country now because I don't want to have to pay and send troops from my British army to defend against the Yankee, make your own shit." which led to a "Yeah, okay." Canada Central Canada refers to Ontario and Quebec, Maritimes is , Nova Scotia, Prince Edward island, and New Brunswick. With a special guest appearance from Newfoundland and Labrador Nova Scotia was originally a short lived Scottish colony, so lots of Scottish people. Lots of Irish in Newfoundland. Then you have Quebec which was a french colony before the French handed it over after the Seven Years War. Since it was either Keep your sugar producing island (Haiti) or a settler colony in the frozen wastes of North America. Easy choice. Then you have Ontario which was the favorite of investment and moving to. But then you have Rupert's Land/North West Territories, which at this point was the entire western side of Canada. The issue is no one fucking lives there so you need any body willing to come over right fucking now. So you suddenly have Americans casually walking over the border because of the fantasy of the Last Best West and the and the opportunity of the final frontier. Confederates after their ass kicking in the Civil War. Ukranians fleeing the Russian Empire, tons of Asians fleeing persecution going to British Columbia. As well as misc Europeans also here for the Last Best West campaign. This is what the population of the western provinces is made up out of.
In such a situation you really have no choice but to go for the "diversity is our strength" route if you wanna unite your country. Because of that there's far less of a Canadian culture and a Canadian way of doing things so much as there's an agreement that you're wherever you came from and you're also Canadian. Which has led to extremely decentralized groups of people that largely retain their culture while assimilating into a Canadian identity. This is helped by the fact that these people very rarely form cultural enclaves. So most people won't just get up and move to Chinatown or Ukranine town or Japan town. They have to acknowledge their Indian, various Euro, Asian, and American neighbors. So you very rarely can just be a x ethnicity in Canada. The idea of Canadian identity in Civic Nationalism is starting to develop with its rise and the aging of Central Canadians boomers who remember the good old days of British rule or the protectionist Québecois.
There's tons of soyboys and Americanized culture warriors in Ontario and British Columbia, but I find most Americans who have an opinion on Canada are "Yeah I like Canada because Canada and the U.S are best friends
" If they have more of an opinion it's usually through a political lens. They see Canada as the socialist paradise America should become or a woke failed state. Either way, having a painfully reductive view of Canada seems to be the norm in the U.S. As is vice versa in Canada.TLDR: Historic need for immigration to fill out a suddenly and pragmatically created country by the UK from former French and Scottish colonies leads to a massive influx of Americans, various Europeans and persecuted peoples throughout history (Ukranian, Japanese, Chinese, Vietnamese, etc) which in turn leads to a mixing pot of a nation in which many cultures are practiced and maintained. While still subscribing to an idea of Canadian identity because of a lack of cultural enclaves with few exceptions. As well as a heavy uses of Canadian symbolism, Civic Nationalism and Constitutional Patriotism. So people can't just be X culture that just so happens to be in Canada, but Canadian identity is readily adaptable without sacrificing your culture. Canadian identity it self is still something developing in the form of civic nationalism. As boomer Central Canadians who remember British rule for good or bad and make up a majority of the population die. As well as the families decades old immigrant families and new immigrant families pick up on fragments of what can be described as a pan-Canadian identity.
Yeah, he's a massive fag but he struck gold just this once. I think he overplays the white supremacy aspects of the rural and uses failed state too liberally. But he otherwise genuinely makes a lot of good points in at least that in article. And hopefully his book too since he doesn't have to open with typical click-bait titles to outline his points.
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Obtrusigopeengis
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Speak for yourself hon hon hon the New Brunswick Acadian identity is strong I am 100% French Acadi before I am LeafIt's really hard to pin down a typical "Canadian" dialect. Because Canada as a country wasn't necessarily created from a genuine desire from its people as much as a command from higher up. "You guys are all a country now because I don't want to have to pay and send troops from my British army to defend against the Yankee, make your own shit." which led to a "Yeah, okay." Canada Central Canada refers to Ontario and Quebec, Maritimes is , Nova Scotia, Prince Edward island, and New Brunswick. With a special guest appearance from Newfoundland and Labrador Nova Scotia was originally a short lived Scottish colony, so lots of Scottish people. Lots of Irish in Newfoundland. Then you have Quebec which was a french colony before the French handed it over after the Seven Years War. Since it was either Keep your sugar producing island (Haiti) or a settler colony in the frozen wastes of North America. Easy choice. Then you have Ontario which was the favorite of investment and moving to. But then you have Rupert's Land/North West Territories, which at this point was the entire western side of Canada. The issue is no one fucking lives there so you need any body willing to come over right fucking now. So you suddenly have Americans casually walking over the border because of the fantasy of the Last Best West and the and the opportunity of the final frontier. Confederates after their ass kicking in the Civil War. Ukranians fleeing the Russian Empire, tons of Asians fleeing persecution going to British Columbia. As well as misc Europeans also here for the Last Best West campaign. This is what the population of the western provinces is made up out of.
In such a situation you really have no choice but to go for the "diversity is our strength" route if you wanna unite your country. Because of that there's far less of a Canadian culture and a Canadian way of doing things so much as there's an agreement that you're wherever you came from and you're also Canadian. Which has led to extremely decentralized groups of people that largely retain their culture while assimilating into a Canadian identity. This is helped by the fact that these people very rarely form cultural enclaves. So most people won't just get up and move to Chinatown or Ukranine town or Japan town. They have to acknowledge their Indian, various Euro, Asian, and American neighbors. So you very rarely can just be a x ethnicity in Canada. The idea of Canadian identity in Civic Nationalism is starting to develop with its rise and the aging of Central Canadians boomers who remember the good old days of British rule or the protectionist Québecois.
There's tons of soyboys and Americanized culture warriors in Ontario and British Columbia, but I find most Americans who have an opinion on Canada are "Yeah I like Canada because Canada and the U.S are best friends
TLDR: Historic need for immigration to fill out a suddenly and pragmatically created country by the UK from former French and Scottish colonies leads to a massive influx of Americans, various Europeans and persecuted peoples throughout history (Ukranian, Japanese, Chinese, Vietnamese, etc) which in turn leads to a mixing pot of a nation in which many cultures are practiced and maintained. While still subscribing to an idea of Canadian identity because of a lack of cultural enclaves with few exceptions. As well as a heavy uses of Canadian symbolism, Civic Nationalism and Constitutional Patriotism. So people can't just be X culture that just so happens to be in Canada, but Canadian identity is readily adaptable without sacrificing your culture. Canadian identity it self is still something developing in the form of civic nationalism. As boomer Central Canadians who remember British rule for good or bad and make up a majority of the population die. As well as the families decades old immigrant families and new immigrant families pick up on fragments of what can be described as a pan-Canadian identity.
Yeah, he's a massive fag but he struck gold just this once. I think he overplays the white supremacy aspects of the rural and uses failed state too liberally. But he otherwise genuinely makes a lot of good points in at least that in article. And hopefully his book too since he doesn't have to open with typical click-bait titles to outline his points.
This is the only objectively correct opinion for an American to have about Canada, though. We are joined at the damn hip, both literally and figurativelyI find most Americans who have an opinion on Canada are "Yeah I like Canada because Canada and the U.S are best friends
Canadians sound like Trailer Park Boys, just frig off.It's really hard to pin down a typical "Canadian" dialect. Because Canada as a country wasn't necessarily created from a genuine desire from its people as much as a command from higher up. "You guys are all a country now because I don't want to have to pay and send troops from my British army to defend against the Yankee, make your own shit." which led to a "Yeah, okay." Canada Central Canada refers to Ontario and Quebec, Maritimes is , Nova Scotia, Prince Edward island, and New Brunswick. With a special guest appearance from Newfoundland and Labrador Nova Scotia was originally a short lived Scottish colony, so lots of Scottish people. Lots of Irish in Newfoundland. Then you have Quebec which was a french colony before the French handed it over after the Seven Years War. Since it was either Keep your sugar producing island (Haiti) or a settler colony in the frozen wastes of North America. Easy choice. Then you have Ontario which was the favorite of investment and moving to. But then you have Rupert's Land/North West Territories, which at this point was the entire western side of Canada. The issue is no one fucking lives there so you need any body willing to come over right fucking now. So you suddenly have Americans casually walking over the border because of the fantasy of the Last Best West and the and the opportunity of the final frontier. Confederates after their ass kicking in the Civil War. Ukranians fleeing the Russian Empire, tons of Asians fleeing persecution going to British Columbia. As well as misc Europeans also here for the Last Best West campaign. This is what the population of the western provinces is made up out of.
In such a situation you really have no choice but to go for the "diversity is our strength" route if you wanna unite your country. Because of that there's far less of a Canadian culture and a Canadian way of doing things so much as there's an agreement that you're wherever you came from and you're also Canadian. Which has led to extremely decentralized groups of people that largely retain their culture while assimilating into a Canadian identity. This is helped by the fact that these people very rarely form cultural enclaves. So most people won't just get up and move to Chinatown or Ukranine town or Japan town. They have to acknowledge their Indian, various Euro, Asian, and American neighbors. So you very rarely can just be a x ethnicity in Canada. The idea of Canadian identity in Civic Nationalism is starting to develop with its rise and the aging of Central Canadians boomers who remember the good old days of British rule or the protectionist Québecois.
There's tons of soyboys and Americanized culture warriors in Ontario and British Columbia, but I find most Americans who have an opinion on Canada are "Yeah I like Canada because Canada and the U.S are best friends
TLDR: Historic need for immigration to fill out a suddenly and pragmatically created country by the UK from former French and Scottish colonies leads to a massive influx of Americans, various Europeans and persecuted peoples throughout history (Ukranian, Japanese, Chinese, Vietnamese, etc) which in turn leads to a mixing pot of a nation in which many cultures are practiced and maintained. While still subscribing to an idea of Canadian identity because of a lack of cultural enclaves with few exceptions. As well as a heavy uses of Canadian symbolism, Civic Nationalism and Constitutional Patriotism. So people can't just be X culture that just so happens to be in Canada, but Canadian identity is readily adaptable without sacrificing your culture. Canadian identity it self is still something developing in the form of civic nationalism. As boomer Central Canadians who remember British rule for good or bad and make up a majority of the population die. As well as the families decades old immigrant families and new immigrant families pick up on fragments of what can be described as a pan-Canadian identity.
Yeah, he's a massive fag but he struck gold just this once. I think he overplays the white supremacy aspects of the rural and uses failed state too liberally. But he otherwise genuinely makes a lot of good points in at least that in article. And hopefully his book too since he doesn't have to open with typical click-bait titles to outline his points.
Americans like Canadians because we can lie and pretend we're one of you when we're traveling abroad.
(I have met exactly one Canadian in real life and he was a total dickhead. Not blaming all of Canada for him though.)
(I have met exactly one Canadian in real life and he was a total dickhead. Not blaming all of Canada for him though.)
AfghanBlue
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haha, somehow this has only just struck me-
the reason PT bitches and moans about UK trans access to medical treatment to such an unusual extent (considering the actual state of affairs, especially as compared to like, almost everywhere else) is that he was clearly fucking knocked back by his GP.
Doctor will have been as convinced as any of us as, at worst to the veracity of it / at best the chance this person isnt just having a breakdown.
27 year old man strides into the clinic. Perhaps the Dr is even familiar with his youtube channel. Definately if they've met before, as you know thats not going unmentioned.
''Hi, i'll have my order of estrogen pills, a set of tits and some facial surgery, yesterday please mate" *snaps fingers*
DR- so erm...how long have you been feeling this way...when did you start your social transition for instance?
PT- Oh, no, I wont be doing any of that til everything else is sorted,I've got a public image ETC.
No dice, come back in 6 months. Here's some prozac.
Probably went to those sunlit uplands of acceptance and calm, the US to private healthcare some pills after a few days of huffing that it wasnt done quickly enough here .
And no externally certified transition= no F passport=no precious Establishment beurocratic back-pat.
/also, just going through the thread- watched some of that awful 'podcast' with him and a couple others, including the 'Muslim-ess'. All of it filled with terrible, rubbihs human, worse comedian hollow none jokes that just remind you of the snidey little losers who find a couple of other nerds in university and hang out in a group of like 4 for the whole few years.
Theres a bit where one of them (feels the need to say) he respects the Miners (
, comrade)
and PT has to jump in 'jokingly specifying' the guy means miners, not minors.
Cringe, very characteristic of whats counted for banter the whole time up til then.
The weird thing is they then spend the next *19 minutes*, cagily staying around the topic of peadophilia, each -finding it nessecary to-deny they are but like, staying on and around that awful topic like, not ever really saying anything about it, just like....smelling the flowers in the garden, so to speak.
It was gross. And like all of them were the same kind of creep.
Oh, and a bit where one asked PT if it was legal to smoke weed in "Redacted"- which was said again and again in ref to The Big Acting Job, which was painfully answered with "well there's some people in the cast who are big enough stars that they might just be able to get away with whatever they want but like idk"
that wasnt the question man. we get it, you're a huge deal.
the reason PT bitches and moans about UK trans access to medical treatment to such an unusual extent (considering the actual state of affairs, especially as compared to like, almost everywhere else) is that he was clearly fucking knocked back by his GP.
Doctor will have been as convinced as any of us as, at worst to the veracity of it / at best the chance this person isnt just having a breakdown.
27 year old man strides into the clinic. Perhaps the Dr is even familiar with his youtube channel. Definately if they've met before, as you know thats not going unmentioned.
''Hi, i'll have my order of estrogen pills, a set of tits and some facial surgery, yesterday please mate" *snaps fingers*
DR- so erm...how long have you been feeling this way...when did you start your social transition for instance?
PT- Oh, no, I wont be doing any of that til everything else is sorted,I've got a public image ETC.
No dice, come back in 6 months. Here's some prozac.
Probably went to those sunlit uplands of acceptance and calm, the US to private healthcare some pills after a few days of huffing that it wasnt done quickly enough here .
And no externally certified transition= no F passport=no precious Establishment beurocratic back-pat.
/also, just going through the thread- watched some of that awful 'podcast' with him and a couple others, including the 'Muslim-ess'. All of it filled with terrible, rubbihs human, worse comedian hollow none jokes that just remind you of the snidey little losers who find a couple of other nerds in university and hang out in a group of like 4 for the whole few years.
Theres a bit where one of them (feels the need to say) he respects the Miners (
, comrade)and PT has to jump in 'jokingly specifying' the guy means miners, not minors.
Cringe, very characteristic of whats counted for banter the whole time up til then.
The weird thing is they then spend the next *19 minutes*, cagily staying around the topic of peadophilia, each -finding it nessecary to-deny they are but like, staying on and around that awful topic like, not ever really saying anything about it, just like....smelling the flowers in the garden, so to speak.
It was gross. And like all of them were the same kind of creep.
Oh, and a bit where one asked PT if it was legal to smoke weed in "Redacted"- which was said again and again in ref to The Big Acting Job, which was painfully answered with "well there's some people in the cast who are big enough stars that they might just be able to get away with whatever they want but like idk"
that wasnt the question man. we get it, you're a huge deal.
This is almost certainly a delusion of grandeur. Unless you're an AAA-list celebrity, the old adage still holds true: "You wouldn't care so much about what people thought of you if you realized just how little they did."
Good find. Olly is clearly AMPED to be interacting with Contra. He’s literally constantly smiling in the beginning and fighting to suppress it. There’s lots of flirty banter between the two of them. Contra says that Olly’s shirt always becomes unbuttoned during his streams, Olly says no no that’s not true and Contra says “I’m not complaining.”
“Mia” is such a third wheel throughout, you can tell that Olly and Contra are tuned in to one another. Olly keeps reaching to bring up past hangouts with Contra. “This port reminds me of that time we went to the bar in….” etc.
They discuss astrology and Myers-Briggs for awhile and Olly says to Contra, “you know me so well…”
It’s still really amazing that Olly actually went through with this troon charade. And maybe I’m reading in to it based on all we know, but it definitely seems like Olly is in love with Contra. At the very end they talk about haircuts and grooming under quarantine and Contra says that he likes length of Olly’s hair, that it’s “disheveled but in a hot way.” And Olly is once again fighting his gloating smile and looking like the cat that ate the cream.
Most ominous part of the stream. Contra says "you have to get with it if you're going to be a lesbian" and Olly starts to laugh maniacally, literally acts like a lunatic. He's a bit tipsy but both Mia and Contra are obviously thrown off by his reaction. I think he was already trooning out at that time, based off of that reaction and also the fact he was growing out his hair and his cross-dressing video came shortly after. Only other explanation for that laughter is that he was still bitter about Contra coming out as a """""lesbian""""". Immediately after that he says no one showed up to his 21st birthday, which I thought was a joke at first but everyone took it seriously.
Most of the beginning of the stream was just them trying to figure out how to fix the volume. I watched that part while half asleep so I might've missed something, but I agree that Olly was overjoyed to have Contra there and they clearly enjoyed flirting with one another. It's pretty clear that Olly still had feelings for Contra, and it really seems like he was still in love with him. The moment where Olly had that gloating smile after Contra complimented his hair also stuck out to me, it was similar to the laughter moment I linked above. Again, probably because he was beginning to troon out and Contra had no idea.
In regards to the MBTI thing he says to Contra 'you'll have to remind me tomorrow, since i'll forget', so they were probably still talking pretty frequently around that time. Or maybe Olly wanted to have an excuse to talk to him again tomorrow. He also agreed with Contra's MBTI description that said that Contra was "sympathetic, caring, and compassionate".
Also Contra gets eyelash perms every couple months. Imagine putting chemicals like that right next to your eye because of your degenerate bimbo fetish.
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Lol, right? I almost mentioned that too.
Contra makes several “jokes” throughout the (relatively short) stream about how self absorbed and uninterested in others he is. It’s meant to be winky-winky charming but again given the close analysis we’ve given this guy it has a more ominous, narcissistic vibe to it.
Have been forced out of lurking on this;
Having watched the Forbidden Stream (April 2020) Olly is so into Contra etc and dressed like himself, tux, bearded - when he stands up to plug in his headphones we can see his clearly masculine torso with chest hair. Yet in the coming out video(Jan 2021) he says he has been living openly as a trans women for more than a year. In his BBC interview he states that at the end of lockdown one he could not go with his brother to his neice's nursery for folk commenting on his trans status, that would be not long after and current to the Forbbiden Stream No?
His timeline is totally contradictory.
Having watched the Forbidden Stream (April 2020) Olly is so into Contra etc and dressed like himself, tux, bearded - when he stands up to plug in his headphones we can see his clearly masculine torso with chest hair. Yet in the coming out video(Jan 2021) he says he has been living openly as a trans women for more than a year. In his BBC interview he states that at the end of lockdown one he could not go with his brother to his neice's nursery for folk commenting on his trans status, that would be not long after and current to the Forbbiden Stream No?
His timeline is totally contradictory.
DarkSoulsPhil
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I firmly believe he's faking it, was rejected by a doc and is only trans insofar as wears a dress
Oli, get srs if you want people to believe you. I know contra doesn't think its real
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Chris_Stuckmann
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The troon-bimbo dialect is so fucking nauseating it hurts. How are they unaware of how fucking disgusting it makes them sound? Just talk like real people ffs.
NynchLiggers
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AGP does this to a person.
One thing that helps with having a majorly backed up social health program is that GP's have to actually make conscious decisions on what's best for the patient so they don't add to the traffic jam of mental health patients they have.
GPs have to make absolutely sure they're sending them to the right place, getting the right treatment etc etc, and can absolutely sniff out when someone just wants the Trans diagnosis because they want that validation of being "Le Real Tranner" rather than someone who's actual best course of action is taking hormone replacement. If they get it wrong, the patient can turn around and sue (it's actually happened recently in the UK IIRC) And transtrenders don't realise that GPs do not offer transgender identity diagnoses, nor the pills that give you man boobs. You have to go to actual professionals who have studied the field in actual clinics specialising in this situation that aren't just going to stick their thumb up, go "Okay you're the trans now" and fist pills down your throat.
If a patient has exhibited signs of mental health issues before and only recently started exploring this path, they're going to get preferential treatment to "sometimes I just like wearing wigs" because they're more willing to explore other ideas and know becoming transgender is probably the last possible option. That or people who act up to GPs with obviously fake sob stories. They aren't dumb. Olly has enough money to go private anyway so chances are you're absolutely right, his GP just went "Dude, something is wrong, but it isn't your dick" and he thought "No that's not the diagnosis I want".
One little tidbit that stood out to me from the “Forbidden Stream” is that Olly said his mom could be quite the “Karen.” They all discussed “Karens” at length actually.
But the little example Olly shared is that Mrs. Thorn will pitch a fit if the hotel doesn’t have an actual bathtub and only has a shower stall. Olly was talking in his last live stream about how his dad was a doctor (I gather retired now) and that the dad never had a single medical malpractice claim brought against him.
Just thought it interesting that both Olly and Contra have these successful bourgeois parents. And they both have a history of mental health issues. Educational backgrounds that seem important to them. I suppose it makes a certain amount of sense that Olly would fall so hard for Contra. They have a fair amount in common only Contra is a sassy social maven type who makes his narcissistic tendencies “charming” and who would dazzle an autistic oaf who constantly speaks cringe like Olly.
But the little example Olly shared is that Mrs. Thorn will pitch a fit if the hotel doesn’t have an actual bathtub and only has a shower stall. Olly was talking in his last live stream about how his dad was a doctor (I gather retired now) and that the dad never had a single medical malpractice claim brought against him.
Just thought it interesting that both Olly and Contra have these successful bourgeois parents. And they both have a history of mental health issues. Educational backgrounds that seem important to them. I suppose it makes a certain amount of sense that Olly would fall so hard for Contra. They have a fair amount in common only Contra is a sassy social maven type who makes his narcissistic tendencies “charming” and who would dazzle an autistic oaf who constantly speaks cringe like Olly.
Usually, the über privileged kids that attend the Ivy League or expensive private schools have a tendency to always espouse elitist like politics and pretend that they can speak for the common man.
For Contra and Olly’s case, they’re trying to speak for the common trans.
Rotter
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They also have time and money to cultivate a certain persona. It's always the same kind tho. They need to change it up a bit.
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