Philosophy Tube / Oliver Lennard / Oliver "Olly" Thorn / Abigail Thorn - Breadtube's Patrick Bateman.

[fax machine]

Having watched the Forbidden Stream (April 2020) Olly is so into Contra etc and dressed like himself, tux, bearded - when he stands up to plug in his headphones we can see his clearly masculine torso with chest hair. Yet in the coming out video(Jan 2021) he says he has been living openly as a trans women for more than a year. In his BBC interview he states that at the end of lockdown one he could not go with his brother to his neice's nursery for folk commenting on his trans status, that would be not long after and current to the Forbbiden Stream No?

His timeline is totally contradictory.

PT started shaving his goatee and plucking his eyebrows sometime between filming Beauty in Ugly Times, posted April 24, 2020

and the postmortem stream on May 5 (unlisted now, but I grabbed the link through Tumblr):

The first lockdown in the UK started to ease later in May, with schools reopening in June. So it checks out that PT was presenting as a trans woman at the "end of lockdown one," though the story is still bizarre. According to the timeline, he's rageweeping over the idea of getting funny looks in public after just a month of fully committed physical transition. One (1) month. As if it isn't normal for people — even generous, tolerant people — to look askance at someone awkwardly fumbling their way around those first steps, if only to wonder if that person is supposed to be a trans woman or a crossdresser who hasn't found his groove.

But that won't do for ABIGAIL THORN, TRANS PRINCESS OF TERF ISLAND. She rings for the moon and expects it delivered on a silver platter in fifteen seconds flat. Anything less is transphobia. Mental health screening before handing out drugs like candy? Transphobia. Hundred pound fee to get a GRS? Transphobia. Not instantly recognized for your sugar-and-spice soul the second you step out with skinny brows? Transphobia. Never mind that the UK is one of the safest places in the world for trans people — some British ladies say mean things online! The suffering.

Olly tells stories like he downloaded a dozen scripts from Twitter, threw them into a blender, and claimed whatever came out as his own. Like he headed out the door already knowing what he wanted to say and crammed every subsequent experience into the framework of his script-narrative. There are people who can get away with that, who can lie and make it feel real. A good writer can give his canned lines texture. A good actor can deliver them with spirit. The problem is Olly is neither, so he blazes with falseness every time he opens his mouth.

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I don't think the May 5 postmortem stream has been discussed yet, so here are a few notes of interest:

• He's wearing the same David Bowie Blackstar necklace as in his coming out video.
• 2:15 – Mentions Contra. "Oh cool, apparently people are waiting on Nat to release her new video that I didn't realize was coming out today. Cool. I know she's been working really hard on it."
• 2:22 – Addresses the grooming. Says he got rid of the beard because he was bored and looks like "your mum" now. "I think philosophy daddies are out. I think Chad is a 2017 meme. I think it's femboys of YouTube from now on. It's the age of philosophy mommy now. I think philosophy dad was a trend I followed, but philosophy mom — that's the trend I'm gonna set."
• 7:05 – Chat says he looks "really fish." Response: "Not with this beard shadow. I don't think I'll ever pass."
• 8:42 – Discusses the April 2020 forbidden stream. Says he did it with Mia Mulder and "another guest," strangely not naming Contra despite mentioning her new video earlier. Says there was another forbidden stream "from over a year ago with me and the same guest both getting drunk, so it was a chaos stream." Do we have that link?
• 48:33 – "Somebody says, 'what's the most courageous thing you've ever done?' I've not done it yet."
• 52:18: – "I'm tempted to get ice cream, but I'm also trying to not like have a lot of carbs or protein at the moment... I want to lose all this muscle... we're real fem now. I'm gonna shrink down."
• 58:35 – "Haven't rewatched The Matrix in years, but I went back and was like oooh, it kinda has like, new resonance."

Otherwise: mentions his beard and hair and shrinking muscles a dozen times, says he's never ever going back to masc presentation again. I wasn't a regular viewer of PT's stuff, so I had no idea how loudly he was flashing every trans woman signal in these streams. He wasn't hiding it — he was begging for speculation. Same energy as the endless teases about his huuuuge television role (but I can't say more!). He can't shut up about his secrets.

 

[Tombigbee]

I thought 25:10 was interesting.

Olly apparently talked about Lolita by Nabokov in his Beauty in Ugly Times video. Olly received a letter from a viewer afterwards describing their “coming out” as a “minor-attracted-person” and how they identified with the protagonist of Lolita. Olly disavows this person at length.

The part that stuck out is he says “sometimes Mommy has to smack a bitch,” then goes into some pretty deranged laughing. You can tell he’s modulating his baritone guffaws with something more high pitched so the result is really disturbing and creepy.

So yeah for all the troons who have been crying in their beer that “Abby” went from 0 to 60 in her transition overnight - here’s your ugly troonling phase. His mannerisms, frequent hair primping, ridiculous outfit - he was clearly Abighoul in his mind at this point.

On the other hand, a chatter asks at 38:50 that they are thinking about “becoming a trans YouTuber because there aren’t enough guys in the game…Any advice?” Olly looks surprised, shifts in his seat and says, “I wouldn’t have any advice on being a trans youtuber…I don’t think…but uh, good luck I guess? Let me know how it goes…”.

Which only goes to show how disingenuous Olly is. If you watch the clip he’s not winking, he acts like he’d have no relevant advice for a trans YouTuber and yet literally every two minutes he’s dropping hints about being trans through this whole stream. Several times chatters ask if he has any particular plans for post-lockdown and he keeps getting a faraway look in his eyes, smiles and says “I’ve got some ideas…”. 1:05:20 is particularly illustrative. He says “it’s hard to imagine going back to the same kind of life, isn’t it?”

At 45:20 someone asks if his hair is long enough for a ponytail and he says “not yet…” in a singsong voice. Obviously indicating he’s planning on having one.

In addition to the Matrix he mentions the film, All About My Mother which has a cross dressing character.

Someone asks at 58:45 what “bonkers quarantine habits have you picked up?” And Olly erupts into huge laughter and says none that he can say on stream. Obviously referring to his trooning out. Can you imagine what must have been going on in his apartment circa May 2020? Like Buffalo Bill on steroids. But instead of “Preciousss??” it was “Contraaaaa?”

He says at 1:11:30 that he tried to put concealer on to cover his beard shadow before sitting down for this very stream.

Anyway. What a mess this guy is. How fucked up are you when fucking Contra disavows you.

(Fucked up outfit. Like ballet tights and ankle socks. Still from All About My Mother, laughing about his “quarantine hobbies.” )

 

[AfghanBlue]

52:18: – "I'm tempted to get ice cream, but I'm also trying to not like have a lot of carbs or protein at the moment... I want to lose all this muscle... we're real fem now. I'm gonna shrink down."

so he's starving himself a bit?
I'd wondered how he had somehow gotten less massive when he's always been a hulk or a lard-arse.
For the rest of his life he gets to live the outdated housewife vision of counting every single calorie.

watched an old video of his the other day, one from when I had stopped bothering (queer, it was called) and it wasnt possible to get to the end as he had started to go a bit......weird?
Maybe it was just that he had reached the end of what he was qualified to talk about (basic philosophy, most of which is boring) and so was reaching into other off the peg 'issues'.
But I felt sorry for him. That feeling has been so absent from his recent appearances which seem like there is nothing behind the eyes apart from raging narcissism.

He looked like someone having a bit of a crisis. Its just a shame that he's sort of let that crisis win and now has to commit to a falsehood that is going to be extremely physically and mentally taxing.

Mind, in a couple of years he could jump on the oncoming detransition trend.
Maybe end up battling for a new, caring , more compassionate terfery, and be the David Cameron he was born to rightfully become.

Then all the actual transgenders can be like, that fuck thats all over, get out of our club, leave us toback about our lives without creating a shitstorm around everything we do and leaving us to argue with bigots in pubs about it whose radars we shouldnt even be on. You can imagine how it must be for them at the moment.

sweet peace.

 

[Boris Blank's glass eye]

Then all the actual transgenders can be like, that fuck thats all over, get out of our club, leave us toback about our lives without creating a shitstorm around everything we do and leaving us to argue with bigots in pubs about it whose radars we shouldnt even be on. You can imagine how it must be for them at the moment.

With all the public troon ghouls like Yaniv, IT'S MA'AM, John Walker Flynt, Oger, Biden's new healthcare whatever, Rhys McKinnon, the new UC Berkeley shitshow with Joe Lavery and so on and so forth?

That's a negative.

 

[AfghanBlue]

With all the public troon ghouls like Yaniv, IT'S MA'AM, John Walker Flynt, Oger, Biden's new healthcare whatever, Rhys McKinnon, the new UC Berkeley shitshow with Joe Lavery and so on and so forth?

That's a negative.

yeah its looking pretty bad over the pond. Euroons dont have to take as much flak for them though.
and those ones...especially your Janivs...i think biologically its not sustainable. they'll somehow manage to off themselves soon by waging this total war on thier own body and psyches

 

[Boris Blank's glass eye]

yeah its looking pretty bad over the pond. Euroons dont have to take as much flak for them though.
and those ones...especially your Janivs...i think biologically its not sustainable. they'll somehow manage to off themselves soon by waging this total war on thier own body and psyches

I'm an Eurocuck myself, and I do often wonder why we don't seem to have this many deranged lunatics. Or why they don't seem to be so terminally online as American ones.
I mean the UK is pretty bad, there's Sweden, and there was that Conchita Wurst shitshow with Austria and the Eurovision, but the latter is just a stage persona of a gay singer.
There's also this faggot whose long-distance "tranny GF" is apparently Hungarian.

 

[fistfulloffeathers]

I'm an Eurocuck myself, and I do often wonder why we don't seem to have this many deranged lunatics. Or why they don't seem to be so terminally online as American ones.
I mean the UK is pretty bad, there's Sweden, and there was that Conchita Wurst shitshow with Austria and the Eurovision, but the latter is just a stage persona of a gay singer.
There's also this faggot whose long-distance "tranny GF" is apparently Hungarian.

One problem with America is the obsession with being exceptional/special individuals, the UK has some issues with this but not as bad ( for now). America seems to have a real issue with cult mentality too Look at all the biggest/deadliest cults in the world and 99% are USA based. Theres something like 10.000 active cults in the US, and trans ideology is very cult like. The love bombing, controlling behaviour.
Just look at this list of cult red flags, you could easily say this trans ideology

Other countries are less susceptible to cults like the US for some reason, The UK can be bad but people seem more cynical of group think. Other parts of Europe dont seem to have cult attitudes.

 

[Rekkington]

One problem with America is the obsession with being exceptional/special individuals, the UK has some issues with this but not as bad ( for now). America seems to have a real issue with cult mentality too Look at all the biggest/deadliest cults in the world and 99% are USA based. Theres something like 10.000 active cults in the US, and trans ideology is very cult like. The love bombing, controlling behaviour.
Just look at this list of cult red flags, you could easily say this trans ideology
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Other countries are less susceptible to cults like the US for some reason, The UK can be bad but people seem more cynical of group think. Other parts of Europe dont seem to have cult attitudes.

Maybe it's just Americans who go after their cults. Y'all niggas couldn't even stop literal rape gangs that were just out in the open, if you don't think there's a David Koresh in there it's cause you're too busy saying "thank God we're not Americans!" Canadians are even worse.
But also Order of the Nine Angles was founded in the UK.

 

[UVB-76]

Maybe it's just Americans who go after their cults. Y'all niggas couldn't even stop literal rape gangs that were just out in the open, if you don't think there's a David Koresh in there it's cause you're too busy saying "thank God we're not Americans!" Canadians are even worse.
But also Order of the Nine Angles was founded in the UK.

It's a totally different phenomenon. Their grooming gangs were "Asian" so they got a pass. If you wanted to be white and groom children, you'd have to do with the help of the Queen and the BBC like Jimmy Saville. Doing it the Koresh way would have had the SO19 or SAS or whatever bursting through the door.

 

[Rekkington]

Doing it the Koresh way would have had the SO19 or SAS or whatever bursting through the door.

You mean like what happened to Koresh?

 

[AfghanBlue]

I'm an Eurocuck myself, and I do often wonder why we don't seem to have this many deranged lunatics. Or why they don't seem to be so terminally online as American ones.
I mean the UK is pretty bad, there's Sweden, and there was that Conchita Wurst shitshow with Austria and the Eurovision, but the latter is just a stage persona of a gay singer.
There's also this faggot whose long-distance "tranny GF" is apparently Hungarian.

dude, concita wurst was a tans victory, lot of the public loved that shit, or at worst thought it was pretty chill and harmless.

Maybe it's just Americans who go after their cults. Y'all niggas couldn't even stop literal rape gangs that were just out in the open, if you don't think there's a David Koresh in there it's cause you're too busy saying "thank God we're not Americans!" Canadians are even worse.
But also Order of the Nine Angles was founded in the UK.

you mean the grooming gangs who you know about cos they were covered in international media and are now all in prison?
rape of any sort has a crap rate of prosecution, this was often 'undesirable' girls from low income families who police give even less of a fuck about, thought tey had brought it onto themselves, and the higher ups not really wanting to spark a race ting just sealed the deal.
but you know, it did fiiiiinally get sorted. Its how you didnt just coincidently guess it happpened.

 

[fistfulloffeathers]

Maybe it's just Americans who go after their cults. Y'all niggas couldn't even stop literal rape gangs that were just out in the open, if you don't think there's a David Koresh in there it's cause you're too busy saying "thank God we're not Americans!" Canadians are even worse.
But also Order of the Nine Angles was founded in the UK.

I dont know man, America has a child sniffing president, and two ex presidents who had some pretty high profile pedo and sex abuse friends

 

[Rekkington]

I dont know man, America has a child sniffing president, and two ex presidents who had some pretty high profile pedo and sex abuse friends

Yeah because the entire world tracks American news like an international blockbuster, nobody even knows what's going on in Spain but I bet if you checked you'd find some shady shit.

 

[UVB-76]

You mean like what happened to Koresh?

That situation was triggered by reports of automatic fire and them ordering inert grenades to sell at gun shows. The ATF wanted a siege instead of capturing the leader outside like the local Sheriff wanted to. The kiddie diddling only came in clutch to let Janet Reno plead with Clinton to allow the raid.

Yeah because the entire world tracks American news like an international blockbuster

They unironically do because every country reports on international news, and American news are disproportionately given attention. Anyway, they won't tell you about Biden's child sniffing, but the internet will.

 

[fistfulloffeathers]

Yeah because the entire world tracks American news like an international blockbuster, nobody even knows what's going on in Spain but I bet if you checked you'd find some shady shit.

It's well known Spain is corrupt. Outside the us we have a thing called international news, it tells us stuff outside the USA other than fake USA ass kissing crap.
I do find it funny though when yanks get pissy when you point out their country is flawed or not the flag waving utopia they think we think they are.
Someone told me the UK has a pedo problem I'd agree and point you straight to the royal family. You point out America has pedo and cult issues and you get deflections like " yeah u but but your country has bad people" I know dude I know but we aren't talking about terf island.

 

[Rekkington]

It's well known Spain is corrupt. Outside the us we have a thing called international news, it tells us stuff outside the USA other than fake USA ass kissing crap.
I do find it funny though when yanks get pissy when you point out their country is flawed or not the flag waving utopia they think we think they are.
Someone told me the UK has a pedo problem I'd agree and point you straight to the royal family. You point out America has pedo and cult issues and you get deflections like " yeah u but but your country has bad people" I know dude I know but we aren't talking about terf island.

I'm not American, stop projecting. This started by someone saying America has most of the cults in the world, I'm not the spergy one here.

 

[fistfulloffeathers]

I'm not American, stop projecting. This started by someone saying America has most of the cults in the world, I'm not the spergy one here.

They do have 10000 recorded as active. It's a pretty easy Google to find the numbers. Why get so pissy about anothers country? Are you upset your country doesn't have a high score of cults? What a weird thing to be a sore loser about

 

[Rekkington]

They do have 10000 recorded as active. It's a pretty easy Google to find the numbers. Why get so pissy about anothers country? Are you upset your country doesn't have a high score of cults? What a weird thing to be a sore loser about

Why are you determined to believe I am upset? You should calm down about America. The point I was making was that America is the only one who tracks their cults. Like how the #1 serial killer in the world was some South American dude who ended up killing over 200 children cause nobody was really looking hard for him, and there's most likely similar cases because nobody is looking. Or like pedophilia being rampant in the Arab world because it's not as demonized as it is here. To a retard that might from the outside seem like all the pedophiles in the world are White.

 

[Tombigbee]

Can we get back to making fun of Abighoul?

Such a delicate flower our Abighoul:

 

[AfghanBlue]

Can we get back to making fun of Abighoul?

Such a delicate flower our Abighoul:

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oh no, now i'm wondering what becomes of peoples dicks/ ability to cum when they been taking hormones.
wonder if the Delicate Flower puts on the creepy high voice yelping through her wanks or slips up with a guttural 'UGHNAWW.. sorrybabesx'