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MysticMisty

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It's a shame that this thread isn't bigger, this would've blown up easily.
Apparently this is too niche of a community for it to gain traction here. It's a little disappointing because there seems to be plenty of good material to work with.
 

OddEyes

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Apparently this is too niche of a community for it to gain traction here. It's a little disappointing because there seems to be plenty of good material to work with.
Most of the time, when people talk about pokemon lolcows or degenerates, they tend to mostly focus on Verlisify. April really was a shit storm for the pokemon online community.

Shame that most of it's being swept under the rug.
 

Oddeyesmaster101

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Most of the time, when people talk about pokemon lolcows or degenerates, they tend to mostly focus on Verlisify. April really was a shit storm for the pokemon online community.

Shame that most of it's being swept under the rug.
thats why I want to see if I can find beef on jubilee see if I can prove to people what she has done in the past
 

OddEyes

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thats why I want to see if I can find beef on jubilee see if I can prove to people what she has done in the past
Kinda surprised the Twitter spasms she had over the last week haven't come up.

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Archeops

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Kinda surprised the Twitter spasms she had over the last week haven't come up.

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/vp/'s been going apeshit over it recently, but when don't they negatively react to a Pokemon YTuber/streamer existing?
 

Oddeyesmaster101

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Kinda surprised the Twitter spasms she had over the last week haven't come up.

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yeah they have a bit but im looking farther back than that to see if she was fired from places and stuff like that
 

Kari Kamiya

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So wait, this Jubilee's throwing a fit and "quitting" the Pokémon community because she's your typical "GAYMER GURL" feminist who is this close to blaming everything on GamerGate and people won't put up with that shit?

I never looked into the YouTube Pokémon community at all, but outside of it crawling with predators, what's the all hubbub about? What separates them from your typical Pokésperg who's whining about Ash not winning the Kalos League or is still convinced 20 years later Misty is "best girl"?
 
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Anyone over the age of 12 that's still into Pokemon is a lolcow as far as I'm concerned.
 

Agent Wet

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So wait, this Jubilee's throwing a fit and "quitting" the Pokémon community because she's your typical "GAYMER GURL" feminist who is this close to blaming everything on GamerGate and people won't put up with that shit?

I never looked into the YouTube Pokémon community at all, but outside of it crawling with predators, what's the all hubbub about? What separates them from your typical Pokésperg who's whining about Ash not winning the Kalos League or is still convinced 20 years later Misty is "best girl"?
She also made this video and ouch it is just something I'm not surprised this is the point where people just stop following here in general.

 

OddEyes

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She also made this video and ouch it is just something I'm not surprised this is the point where people just stop following here in general.


Actually, the real problems started in the post I made last week about that video:


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Her video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qdazdp2I6kU
(And yes, comments are disabled)

Then, a few days ago, a youtuber named MangaKamen uploaded a response:

Essentially, in it he says that he doesn't view it as a few things she says as gendered issues, she comes off as a hypocrite, and how her delivery is bad (oh and getting things wrong about claiming that Xenoblade Chronicles 2 didn't have any women working on the game at any point, and calling the creator of Dahlia (The furry trash big boobed web blade) a horny teenage gamer).

Apparently, Jubilee got hate (or claimed to), and finally we come to this:

https://web.archive.org/web/20190417223043/https:/twitter.com/MandJTV_Michael/status/1118633907254120449


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So, not only do we have a 750k + youtuber actively telling his followers that a youtuber with less than 40k that he's sexist and is lying, but he directly links his video and is painting the video in a much more negative light."

The biggest issue had was that Jubilee just couldn't take criticism, or jokes, even from a softie like MK, who actually agreed with her at points.

Both her and MandJTV should be listed as cows.

Oh, and to add to this drama, someone found a clip of MandJ telling a fan to go kill himself for just speaking a little coarse to Jubilee.


Moment's at 2:12:29.

And this is real funny because when he was called out for this, he said:

http://archive.li/4IKgs

"I do not behave this way anymore."

That's the biggest load of crap, especially when he did that exact same thing a week before to MK.
 

WhatNemesisMeans

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Jubilee's voice grates on my nerves something fierce. I wonder if her voice is just naturally annoying or if it became that way after years of being a power-tripping feminazi in a community filled to the brim with thirsty virgins.
 

Kari Kamiya

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Guess I'll tell a Serebii story or something because I recently came across an old LiveJournal call-out post that punched me in the nostalgia, made me lol, and gave me a glimpse into a Serebii drama I was aware of in passing but never experienced personally, having only got some details of later on. Old Serebii lurkers who used to browse its fan fiction section may know the tales and whispers of the one reviewer known as Yami Ryu.

[cue slow piano music]

Yami Ryu was kind of the Farla of SPPf, except Farla being Farla was once on the forums trolling the place with her bullshit and got super mad people didn't catch on to her genius then. Yami was basically the Reaper of fics, she looked down on everyone and she was mean to new writers. She showed no mercy, she would call them names, insult their writing, sometimes would outright tell them to just stop writing because they suck, and just about anything you could think of. She spat venom in everyone's eyes and got away with it because she had friends in the high echelons (mods/revered fic writers). Yet she ironically kinda sucked at writing and flipped out on people who would critique her. (This sums her up, also comes into play in the next part.)
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Now granted, some fic writers actually owe it to Yami Ryu for forcing them to push themselves into bettering their skills, and they would show off their scars when asked about it. They still talked bad about her, but they were glad she came by and beat them into the ground.

Well anyway, Yami Ryu made herself some enemies, but that was because she was rather insufferable, which was because she was taking out her anger at the world and at her shitty life on the Internet. This is an example of her grouching over being a cripple but has time to play WoW before swerving over to yell at someone she once considered friend. (Other users being name-dropped are/were SPPf writers.)
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An example of one of her reviews, which happened within this timeframe and was the subject of her bitching (thanks to her passive-aggressive edit to Psychic):
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Psychic was a long-time mod of the fan fiction section before she suddenly left the position not long ago, but she was well-known as being a huge Mewtwo fangirl who shipped herself with him and typically got along with people before she went full-on SJW around 2013-ish. Far as I can tell, she's still on the forum and is still writing/reviewing, but not going to bother with the present. So Psychic didn't reply directly on Yami's call-out post and instead made one of her own, albeit more-or-less to give her own side of the story. She has more back-up in the replies by people who agree with her.
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Kinda repeats herself, showing off more PMs of Yami "BAWWWW"ing that are boring, but you can check out the archived link if you want the whole thing.

Yami replied a few months later but hid herself as anonymous or had someone be her anonymous proxy because cowardice or some other reason. (Her comment about her thinking a user named Zerodius and Psychic would make a good pair had to have come from some "ship members together" thread or something, and the only thing I can think of that got her "pairing" the two together is because they're both Mewtwo fans/shippers.)
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So yeah, who'da thunk the forum's most feared reviewer turned out to be an insecure attention whore? She ended up getting permabanned around this time or a couple years later because of her behavior.

Then she died from cancer a few years later to the surprise of everyone.
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As far as I can tell, Psychic and Yami Ryu never talked again after 2008 although Yami I guess still held a grudge to the bitter end.

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As an aside, Yami's BFF Lady Myuu is currently writing Poképhilia porn involving Mewtwo, the very thing Yami jumped on Psychic for, so who knows how she would've reacted to that had she lived.

I like hearing Yami Ryu stories, so any other accounts will be appreciated since I know there's a bit more to her than just the drama of her falling out with Psychic.
 

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Yami Ryu - dear god that's a name I haven't heard in years. I do have a story though it's not all that interesting.

I'll admit - I'm one of the kids who got absolutely thrashed by her and was told to stop writing when I was about 11 or 12 and I'm honestly glad she didn't hold back. Sometimes it takes having the rug completely pulled out from under your feet in order to know if you have what it takes to not only get back up but to keep pushing and improve. Though I don't condone the way she went about it - especially when she herself was guilty of so many mistakes she assblasted others for making.

You wouldn't believe how many fics got posted during the periods while she was banned though - a lot of them were trash, sure, but it gave others a real chance to give some real criticism before Yami reared her head again. Of course once she was unbanned she got right to work getting her pet mod friends to lock as many "terrible" fanfic threads as she could, even if the authors had actually gone back and improved on their first few chapters thanks to the advice others had given them. It makes me feel kind of sad when she died though. She was one of those lolcows who wasn't really funny to laugh at, but rather pity from afar.
As an aside, Yami's BFF Lady Myuu is currently writing Poképhilia porn involving Mewtwo, the very thing Yami jumped on Psychic for, so who knows how she would've reacted to that had she lived.
She probably would've become an SJW like everyone else who was usually either in mod positions or extremely close to the mods on SPPf did and would most likely approve of Myuu's horny deviancy under the guise of it being a fic involving pansexuality. I don't thing there's a single staff member there who isn't part of that crowd - hell, even Dragonfree, the one mod who called out Yami on her bullshit alongside Psychic, is one of them (though considering she wrote Morphic it wasn't exactly hard to see coming).

I feel this is something fanfiction communities in general suffer from, but the pokemon community especially. There's a real sense of elitism and if you don't do things the way the most popular authors do things (which basically boils down to making your main character trans and your antagonist an evil white cishet man who hates the main character because they're transphobic), then you're not going to get anywhere beyond maybe a couple of follows and maybe the odd comment or two every three or four chapters or so - and after seeing what elitism does to people like Yami or Farla and her cronies, I don't think it would be wise for anyone to keep trying.

And speaking of Farla and friends - they've opened up a patreon! For only $10 a month you can get a super-duper-totally-not-worth-it list of all the games and books Act hasn't read or played yet because that's definitely something people will pay money for - let alone $10! I'm debating if I should necro Farla's thread because this is kind of a new development that deserves to be laughed at, but I'm not really sure Farla and friends are big enough lolcows for that unfortunately.
 
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Kari Kamiya

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I'll admit - I'm one of the kids who got absolutely thrashed by her and was told to stop writing when I was about 11 or 12 and I'm honestly glad she didn't hold back. Sometimes it takes having the rug completely pulled out from under your feet in order to know if you have what it takes to not only get back up but to keep pushing and improve. Though I don't condone the way she went about it - especially when she herself was guilty of so many mistakes she assblasted others for making.

You wouldn't believe how many fics got posted during the periods while she was banned though - a lot of them were trash, sure, but it gave others a real chance to give some real criticism before Yami reared her head again. Of course once she was unbanned she got right to work getting her pet mod friends to lock as many "terrible" fanfic threads as she could, even if the authors had actually gone back and improved on their first few chapters thanks to the advice others had given them. It makes me feel kind of sad when she died though. She was one of those lolcows who wasn't really funny to laugh at, but rather pity from afar.
I'm honestly shocked Yami Ryu passed me, and I kinda feel a little bit of guilt for that reason. I never got a visit from her even though I probably should've back when I first started writing since I was ripe for the picking (or she hadn't yet began her rampage, I'm actually unsure about when her reign of terror started), and I'm wondering if it's because I actually got the support of one of the more beloved writers at the time, Brian Powell, who was known for writing silly but in-character short stories of Team Rocket. I don't know where in the circle he fit into, but far as I can tell, Yami never interacted with him/left him alone. IceKing was another popular writer at the time, and he had given me a tip of his hat from the beginning as well, so either I got really lucky or I had some kind of protection/approval from seasoned writers for showing potential.

Then again, one of the first things I ever did was write a really-really-really shitty spergy review on one of Lady Myuu's one-shots (which I think Yami noticed--I know Scrap did--and of course rolled her eyes at), and when I got a warning for it, I sent Myuu an apology for my behavior and she went "Lol sure, all's forgiven." She might've written me off as a loss from the start and never bothered checking in on me. But I also kinda was going inactive around the time of the Yami Ryu drama, and when I returned, she was permabanned and even then, I hardly posted anything in the fan fiction section since.

But I do remember the floodgates being opened when she was gone. That was probably the most activity that section of the site ever got in that time-frame lol good times.

She probably would've become an SJW like everyone else who was usually either in mod positions or extremely close to the mods on SPPf did and would most likely approve of Myuu's horny deviancy under the guise of it being a fic involving pansexuality. I don't thing there's a single staff member there who isn't part of that crowd - hell, even Dragonfree, the one mod who called out Yami on her bullshit alongside Psychic, is one of them (though considering she wrote Morphic it wasn't exactly hard to see coming).
It fits her hypocrisy, so I can definitely see her as being one of the worst of the bunch. She was super bitter enough about life to go down that route, though it'd have been kinda funny if she went full-on edgelord. Guess either way, she was never going to improve her online reputation and I guess she had enough self-awareness to know that. Dying probably was the best thing that could happen to her since it meant no more suffering, but also it froze her memory so her negative reputation couldn't get worse.

I feel this is something fanfiction communities in general suffer from, but the pokemon community especially. There's a real sense of elitism and if you don't do things the way the most popular authors do things (which basically boils down to making your main character trans and your antagonist an evil white cishet man who hates the main character because they're transphobic), then you're not going to get anywhere beyond maybe a couple of follows and maybe the odd comment or two every three or four chapters or so - and after seeing what elitism does to people like Yami or Farla and her cronies, I don't think it would be wise for anyone to keep trying.
I really haven't lurked the fan fiction section in a long time, I only check out the author's café sometimes because of writing discussions, but it's too safe and dull and no one has anything interesting to say. There was one lolcow writer who went by the name of Silver, I believe (she changed her name a few times), who kinda had a similar complaint Yami had about people "tearing apart" her own canon but instead of taking it out in her own threads, she would come up with some... odd topics to try and relate it to her own work, and then would flip when people come up with something else different from her own ideas. Her topic threads would always spark up conversation, but she'd derail it every time she chimped out, and I think eventually people ignored her and she left.

EDIT: Ah ha, I remember one of her chimp-outs was always about her being sensitive her characters were "sexist". Like that legit bothered her, and she'd bring it up any chance she got. Also while looking her up, I saw actually she never really left, but she doesn't post much anymore.

Meanwhile, there's a shipping fic section that's separate from the main fan fiction section (honestly a dumb move on Serebii's part, but whatever, I can see the thought-process there), and they rarely collaborated together, a couple of users would have to consistently remind them about it. It's probably a result of elitism, but it could also just be a case of "out of sight, out of mind" since, yeah, not too many of the fan fic writers are shippers themselves, so they never thought of going over there. Eventually, the shipping fics slipped into hibernation just before the forum upgrade, and I honestly blame the current mods for not being supportive of the community and making the effort to rally them together. They just never had the energy the previous mods had, and they've just been mediocre mods at best. I also think the AmourShippers may have scared people off because of their bullshit, but at least the shipping fics section was active.

Never was as bad and dramatic as the main section, however, so... good on them?
 
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I don't have much input to give on Renegade/Yami Ryu right now, aside that she was a staunch Republican who hated Obama and that she once tried to write a story where a level 5 Numel killed an Aron by melting it to death with Ember when Aron has a x4 resistance to it. She got so butthurt when called out on it that she stopped the fic on the spot.
 
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