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StarkRavingMad

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Murder rate is at an all time low historically. That's not that fucked up.
Correct. Gun violence since 1993 altogether is lower now. And there were stricter gun laws back in 1993. This was reported by NPR, The Washington Post, PEW research, etc ... This should be common knowledge by now because of how many media outlets have reported on it.

The only statistic that's on the rise are these mass shootings (and I'm talking about REAL mass shootings, not the intentionally manipulated definition of it by the media). And yes, it's a problem that needs to be addressed. And no, the solution is not #GunControlNow.
 

RedAntz

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That's not an American thing to do. The American way to kill a bunch of people is to shoot up a place. Arson is for fags like the guy who burned down a gay bar back in the 70s.


6 out of 9 of those killed were black, and I don't think you'd find that many black people at blatantly conservative bar (which sounds like an oxymoron).
To be fair, he only managed to shoot people outside the bar, seems to have been firing pretty randomly, and was a complete fucking idiot.
 

CharlesBarkley

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I'm DYING to know whether killing his sister was intentional. From Betts's supposed high school history with girls, I'm thinking yes, but if his intended target was truly a conservative bar, shooting his sister was probably not his goal. But... you just can't accidentally murder your sibling, right?
His sister was a huge trump supporter and always bragged about how much sex she was getting.

I mean, maybe not, but that would be hilarious.
 

Jamila

Maybe I.... ...zuck ya dick..
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Idk if it was mentioned in earlier reports, but apparently in addition to his "hit list" he also had a "rape list"

Classmates of Betts at Bellbrook High School said he was twice suspended for compiling a “hit list” and a “rape list.”

“There was a kill list and a rape list, and my name was on the rape list,” a female classmate told the Associated Press.
I'm leaning towards incel pissed that his roastie sister had a boyfriend, and they were probably keeping him awake by fucking all night long just to torture him. Apparently her boyfriend was found shot and killed with her, but I can't find any ID on who he was. Tyrone, probably.
 

Dom Cruise

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Murder rate is at an all time low historically. That's not that fucked up.
But shit, there was a time when people murdered someone they had a reason for it, like "I caught so and so in bed with my wife!", even Cain and Abel was over something.

Just mowing down random strangers is a special kind of sick and it's become more common than it ever was in recent years, while it's good that murder rates overall have gone down, that still speaks to something rotten in modern American society.

What I would compare it to though is all those serial killers in the 1970s, why were there all those serial killers like Bundy, Dahmer, the Zodiac Killer and Gacy back then? For whatever reason it was as much part of the zeitgeist of the 1970s as these mass shooters are part of the zeitgeist of the 2010s.
 

BigRuler

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But shit, there was a time when people murdered someone they had a reason for it, like "I caught so and so in bed with my wife!", even Cain and Abel was over something.

Just mowing down random strangers is a special kind of sick and it's become more common than it ever was in recent years, while it's good that murder rates overall have gone down, that still speaks to something rotten in modern American society.

What I would compare it to though is all those serial killers in the 1970s, why were there all those serial killers like Bundy, Dahmer, the Zodiac Killer and Gacy back then? For whatever reason it was as much part of the zeitgeist of the 1970s as these mass shooters are part of the zeitgeist of the 2010s.
im pretty sure that serial killers have been around for a very long time before that, but simply weren't getting caught.
with these things you have to keep in mind how fast technology is evolving. identification via fingerprints has barely been around for a hundred years, DNA evidence for less than fifty, and communication/coordination between different police stations was much much harder to do before the age of widespread electronic/digital communication, especially across state lines.

if ted bundy had done his thing a hundred years earlier, he likely would never have been caught. also, the crimes likely would not have been linked together by anyone, so nobody would even have gotten the idea of some sort of serial killer in the area.
 

Dom Cruise

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im pretty sure that serial killers have been around for a very long time before that, but simply weren't getting caught.
with these things you have to keep in mind how fast technology is evolving. identification via fingerprints has barely been around for a hundred years, DNA evidence for less than fifty, and communication/coordination between different police stations was much much harder to do before the age of widespread electronic/digital communication, especially across state lines.

if ted bundy had done his thing a hundred years earlier, he likely would never have been caught. also, the crimes likely would not have been linked together by anyone, so nobody would even have gotten the idea of some sort of serial killer in the area.
Hey, I never even thought of it that way, that's very interesting.
 

Dat Wrasse

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There's no way he coincidentally shot his sister; that had to have been at least a major part of whatever his motives were.

If I remember correctly, her boyfriend was found in the car with her. I definitely remember reading that he was dead, but more recently I read that he was just severely injured? If that's the case, I'm really interested to see what he has to say.
 

BHWuser

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im pretty sure that serial killers have been around for a very long time before that, but simply weren't getting caught.
with these things you have to keep in mind how fast technology is evolving. identification via fingerprints has barely been around for a hundred years, DNA evidence for less than fifty, and communication/coordination between different police stations was much much harder to do before the age of widespread electronic/digital communication, especially across state lines.

if ted bundy had done his thing a hundred years earlier, he likely would never have been caught. also, the crimes likely would not have been linked together by anyone, so nobody would even have gotten the idea of some sort of serial killer in the area.
If you go and watch the murder of Lennon, the Oaklahoma City Bomber, The Unibomber, Wako, and other documentaries you start to discover how connected they are. Not directly, but the publicizing of these sort of events seem to have a major influence on other tragedies of similar nature. While I won't say information shouldn't be spread, sensationalizing such events certainly seems to have a cause and effect relationship with these sorts of attacks.
 

RodgerDodger

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He was the lead singer of a crossdressing Porn Metal band called "Menstrual Munchies"...! How the Holy Fuck did we not already have a thread on this guy?

There's no way he coincidentally shot his sister; that had to have been at least a major part of whatever his motives were.
I remain confused. Supposedly he drove to the location with his sister and her boyfriend? Did they not notice the rifle? Because that's the kind of thing most people would notice.
 

Syaoran Li

Totally Radical Dude
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So the shooter was a leftist?

This will get memory-holed or if it isn't, the leftists will invoke the "No True Scotsman" fallacy and brand him as "alt right" since he likes anime and metal (bofh of which SJW's typically dislike and associate with Alt-Right stereotypes)

They're already playing the misogyny card due to his turbo autist incel behaviors.

The worst part is that the MSM will take the leftists' word for it.

Maybe if he didn't like anime and heavy metal, it'd be a harder sell to re-brand him as an "alt-right fake leftist" but not by much.

My guess is he's a typical male feminist incel who snapped and went postal due to the El Paso shooting. Hell, if he liked the MCU instead of anime, he'd check every male feminist stereotype on the list.

I don't know if the story about him propositioning his sister for sex is true because it sounds like one of those weird internet rumors, but he did kill his sister before going off to shoot up the bar. Does anybody know what the political beliefs of his family were?

If the sister or her boyfriend were conservative (or even just centrist), that could have been the motive for killing his sister. The El Paso shooting could have been the straw that finally broke the camel's back since it's obvious this dude is a fucked up sicko.

TL;DR-The SJW's will brand him a "fake leftist" and possibly even consider his crimes to be some sort of right-wing false flag, while the MSM will probably memory hole as much of this as possible since it doesn't serve the narrative well, at least not as effectively as the El Paso shooting did.
 

StarkRavingMad

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It's already being memory-holed.

The topic of discussion today around the media has been about the El Paso shooter. Seen a bunch of people post things like "White supremacy isn't a mental illness!"

The Left is crying "NAZI!" and "gun control now!" and the Right sperging about violent video games ... And both are choosing to ignore the real problem behind these tragedies.
 

Sissy Galvez

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He locked the door to keep the fire from following them! Holy shit, lmao!


Someone said there was a bluelivesmatter flag up on the wall in the a bar. Sometimes black ppl can even be cops.
Was it a cop bar? Being a leftist
Robert de Sangford at DMU is claiming the shooter was a leftist and performed in a Grindcore band called Menstrual Munchies. Apparently, he was very active on left Twitter.

Anti-Fascist Black Metal band Neckbeard Deathcamp has been chimping out on Twitter:
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This has caused a domino effect amongst antifa/Metal twatter. Some accounts have gone protected and searching only reveals some clues it’s tied to this.

I think, it also goes back to an early post I made about how this shooter retweeted a ton of leftist journalists and antifa accounts. The crows are coming home to roost. It was ok when the only person who died was the attacker but now suddenly they’re clutching their pearls because a comrade shot up a bar and his sister.
 

pwnest injun

Management of Savagery
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It was ok when the only person who died was the attacker but now suddenly they’re clutching their pearls because a comrade shot up a bar and his sister.
Reminds me of that "pigs in a blanket" guy who shot a couple cops... after he strangled his girlfriend to death.
 
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