Predator: Hunting Grounds - Asymmetric Predator game from the makers of Friday the 13th: the Game

[BrunoMattei]

It's such an obvious idea to exploit and it truly saddens me that this is being developed by the autists behind Friday the 13th: the Game. Anyone who played F13 can tell you how much of a shitshow that it was. Buggy as fuck, exploits out the ass, terrible balance with a focus on casuals, you couldn't play as Jason whenever you wanted to not unless you setup a party, and game crashes even on the consoles. Not to mention bugs and exploits that have never once been fixed. And Illfonic set a precedent where they will up and abandon a game out of the blue.

Uber Jason was never officially added to the game despite being this complete and available via hack on the PC version. The BS reason Illfonic gave is that the character didn't have his own unique theme (even though part 9 Jason didn't have a unique theme for several months) and the character required "3 weeks of Q&A" which is bullshit because Illfonic never Q&A'd anything. And apparently they felt they shouldn't pay for that.

 

[Marco Fucko]

Didn't the Friday the 13th game also have some kind of community or mod abuse controversy? I can see why Dead by Daylight is more popular in this subgenre.

 

[BrunoMattei]

Didn't the Friday the 13th game also have some kind of community or mod abuse controversy? I can see why Dead by Daylight is more popular in this subgenre.

That too.

https://heavy.com/games/2017/07/fri...lly-dingus-ban-ddos-doxx-attack-steam-review/

ust when you thought the Friday the 13th: The Game controversy was dying down, it sparked back up today in the form of closing down the game’s subreddit and then opening it back up a few hours later.

The controversy stems from some players believing that Gun Media and Illfonic, the two developers of Friday the 13th, did not handle the banning of a player in the correct manner. The developers state the player, Dilly Dingus, broke the rules by sexually harassing the other players, while he states those players were helping Jason win the match. Helping Jason is on the list of bannable offenses for the game. The Jason helpers did not receive bans, as far as we know.

We were able to get into contact with Dilly Dingus and receive his official statement:

So when me and cyndaquil joined this match it was empty. I was talking with him about my Jason, and then three other players joined. It was the two girls and the one kid. As I was talking to cyndaquil, the kid said out loud to me, “Wow you sound like a little fucking girl.” as soon as he said that the girls both began to shout into their mics “OH YOU JUST GOT FUCKIN OWNED.” I thought they were stupid and I just retaliated by saying “Shut up faggot.” This got them to be quiet and they reacted by saying “I can’t believe you said that.” I told them, “Sure talk shit get hit.” So after that I didn’t think much of it because the game started, and I was just playing it normally. The younger player was chosen to be jason and I continued to play the game. The jason kept acting like a dick during the whole match, talking about how much better he was than everyone, and how easy it was to juke us. I told my friend in discord “Yo why is this jason acting like a fucking retard?” and we kept on playing. Jason finally got me and said “ that was so fucking easy you suck.” I told him “Fuck you dude.” So while I was dead most other people were still alive. The two girls were being chased by jason, and they both said “We defended you against the bullies let us help you!” Jason replied with “Okay I won’t kill you miladies.” and then the girls proceeded to go and help jason by killing other counselors. Mind you I was already dead at this point, so they were going after people who weren’t even involved. I will admit I lost my temper here. This pissed me off real bad cause the dude was acting like a white knight. So in dead chat I was like “What a fucking white knight” and “Why are these girls tryin to suck jasons cock? “

After this The other players managed to kill the two girls who were team killing to help jason. In dead chat I told them, “Why are you guys acting like fucking dicks?” I got no response. “You guys are fucking whores dude.” Then they came back and were like “Well you were bullying jason.” I told them he started it but they didn’t seem to care. I told them “you guys don’t have to go after a kid, if you wanted a tiny penis I coulda helped you out there.” They started to get pissed I was shit talking them and one of them said “I’m the community manager for turtle rock studios, I know the devs and can get you banned!” I replied with “Wow how much dick did you have to suck to get into that position.” That really sent them into a frenzy as they begun to shout into the mic, but they were so loud I was unable to make out what they were saying. After the match had ended they both left and we went on with the game, still pretty salty about what happened, but we tried to get over it. Next morning I had a fat permanent game ban.

My biggest tiff, is that they accused me of something very serious, even though it was obvious just shit talk. I was MAD at the jason, not sexually attracted to him, or trying to sexually harass him. I just want the dev to post the video, because he’s insinuating I’m a pedophile, but wont post proof even though hes publicly accusing me of something very big. That seems very fishy to me.

Did I lose my cool? Yes. I think that maybe I went a little overboard, but that’s just because I lost my temper over some people being dicks. It happens to the best of us. I think I do deserve a ban but not permanently. I also believe that they ALSO deserve a ban for insinuating team killing, according to the developers that is a bannable offense. I also want the dev to apologize for losing his cool and accusing me of something that big over something it wasn’t.

Dilly Dingus references player by the name of The Insane Cyndaquil in his story. That is one of his friends, who was also in the game. We were also able to receive his statement on what happened in the game as well.

Me and my friend Dilly Dingus joined a match while it was empty. During this time I was talking to my friend, when three people joined. Two of them were women, and the other one was the child. Dilly and I continue our chat, and I personally chit-chat to one of them. Suddenly, the child lets out a retort to Dilly, saying “Wow, you sound like a little fuckin’ girl”. Shortly after, the two women back him up, saying “You just got fucking trolled/owned”. We didn’t take them seriously at the time, so my friend retaliates with a ‘Shut up, faggot.’ in response. This quieted them down, and they replied “Did you really just say that?” or something among the lines of that. My friend confirms them by saying “Sure, talk shit and get hit.” After what just happened we decided to ignore it and start to play the game because we simply figured it was just some banter. Nothing actually serious, right? The minor was chosen as Jason for the round, and we both found eachother. Time passes, and I’m one of the first people to go, after I die I find that, while spectating the two women, they were telling other people’s locations, and jason was letting them escape from his grip. I tell my friend about this and he continues to play, but eventually he dies to Jason after he talks more shit to Dilly. The women continue to follow Jason around, attempting to teamkill everybody else because apparently we were trying to bully the child. At this point, Dilly loses his cool and begins to vent in the game chat. First he says “What a fucking white knight!”, and then “Why are these girls trying to suck Jasons cock?”

By this point, the two women were killed after trying to teamkill everybody else in the match. I began to talk shit in the voice chat as well but I don’t fully remember what I have said but as far as I know I barely said anything that would be noteworthy. In the voice chat he asks the two “Why are you guys acting like fucking dicks?”, and recieves no response. He then retorts with “You two are fucking whores, dude.” Then they start to respond by saying we were bullying the child. Dilly says the child started it, but they apparently did not seem to care. Dilly decides to respond with “Well, you guys don’t have to go after a little kid. If you wanted a tiny cock I coulda helped you out there, man.” By now, the two women were beginning to get angry because of the shit talking, and one of the people promptly says “I’m a community manager for Turtle Rock Studios, I know the devs and I can get you banned!” Dilly retorts, once again, with “How much penis did you have to suck to get to that position?” This sent them into a rage, and they began to shout into the microphone. However, they were so loud we were unable to make out what they were saying. Not much else aside from the last person dying, and the match ending. When the game ended, the two left and we promptly cooled down, since they had left. The next day, we both wake up to a permanent game ban which I think is absurd.

https://heavy.com/streaming/2019/05/order-ufc-237-ppv-espn-plus/
This is absolutely absurd as everything has started to spiral out of control with accusations. We sexually harassed, tried to solicit a little child to have oral sex, and tried to sexually harass a 12 year old. For somebody to accuse us of this much, and to permanently ban us from a game because of a single match? And this said person that banned us is a developer as well? That is far, FAR too extreme for my taste. It is simply absurd as to how they think they can get away with permanently banning somebody and accusing them of felonies which would result in 10+ years in prison. The dev says he has proof but yet refuses to post it, which I believe is personally suspicious. If he had video footage he could simply post it and this entire PR nightmare for the company would end instantly. Then you could judge on flat-out, raw footage. Personally I am perfectly fine with a temporary ban because I understand what I did wrong here. Maybe we we talked a bit too much shit, I do admit. But a permanent ban? From one match? Because of shit talking? It is completely apalling to me. In my opinion the best way to do this is one of a few ways: Either perma-ban the other side as well, unban us and issue an apology, or unban us, apologize, and ban the other side.

We have reached out to Gun Media for their take on the situation but we have not received a response as of yet. Both players are adamant that they did not know the player was a 12-year-old child before being told so by the developers.
Since the controversy began, players have allegedly sent death threats to the developers, as well as DDoSing the game’s servers twice, at least according to this video below. On the subreddit side of things, the developers have been officially removed as moderators, so now the subreddit is entirely fan driven.

It’s a shame to see a promising game take such a negative turn such as this. It could still get better but it looks like it will take some time for the rift between the developers and the players to heal.
We’ll keep you updated if we hear any more news on the situation.We’ll also update this post if we receive a response from Gun Media.

TLDR: A guy was banned after he called some girls including someone who was underage cunts after they were teaming up with a Jason player and griefing. The girls said they knew one of the devs and got the guy banned.

 

[The tired cat]

I could be wrong, but didn't they drop the support for Friday the 13th because of a lawsuit surrounding said franchise and them not being allowed to work on it?

 

[Sexy Senior Citizen]

That's such a shame, because the asymmetrical aspect of these kinds of games (for example, EVOLVE) is a pretty unique take on the multiplayer genre.

 

[Frank D'arbo]

backing from Sony

WEW LAD
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[UE 558]

Maybe this game will have autism as a powerup like the last movie

 

[SiccDicc]

Friday the 13th was only fun to watch goofy streamers play because it was just a horrible mess outpaced by Dead by Daylight of all games.

I suppose this is just another link in the long chain of disappointing Predator games.

 

[BrunoMattei]

I could be wrong, but didn't they drop the support for Friday the 13th because of a lawsuit surrounding said franchise and them not being allowed to work on it?

That's one possible reason. And this is the main reason why anyone who played F13 that they should remain highly skeptical of Illfonic. There was another Friday the 13th game in development.

http://f13killerpuzzle.com/

And that dev was informed back in December 2017 that the lawsuit wasn't going to be resolved and they can't add new content past a certain date. It's hard to imagine that Illfonic didn't get the same memo. So the dev of the puzzle game got around this restriction by putting in some code for new Jasons and new counselors in the game before the cut off and then patch them in to make them playable at a later date. Illfonic already had the code in place for Uber Jason and a very unfinished space station map. Instead of finishing that or patching that in later they instead decided to focus on an "engine upgrade" that they touted for months on end and declared that this "upgrade" was absolutely essential and couldn't add more DLC during the development. Okay, that sounds reasonable. The "upgrade" comes out, it didn't fix shit, it still ran poorly, the lighting is slightly different, that was it. Shortly after the "engine upgrade" they announce that they're pulling the plug without any intention of fully releasing Uber Jason or anything else.

The devs then handed the game off to a skeleton crew that dedicated time to QOL fixes that still don't address bugs and exploits that have been there since day 1. They just put out a patch that supposedly fixed players being able to get on a roof of a house and people were still able to replicate the bug.

It's theorized that the real reason they dropped the game is just to move on to a more profitable title. They didn't make Uber Jason fully playable because they don't want to pay the license.

 

[The tired cat]

Hm, now I wonder. Since they are being backed by Sony, this might give 'em more work stuff than what happened with Friday the 13th, since that stuff was mostly crowdfunded this is 'em getting money from a big publisher. So if they piss around or even have the idea of dropping it, Sony will probably sue their souls off.

 

[BrunoMattei]

Hm, now I wonder. Since they are being backed by Sony, this might give 'em more work stuff than what happened with Friday the 13th, since that stuff was mostly crowdfunded this is 'em getting money from a big publisher. So if they piss around or even have the idea of dropping it, Sony will probably sue their souls off.

I can imagine a Colonial Marines situation happening again in all honesty.

 

[UE 558]

Not terribly shocked by F13’s fate, it always seemed like Illfonic was more interested in making the game a fanservice extravaganza than simply making a good horror-themed isometric survival game like DBD. Also, wasn’t there a controversy surrounding the devs pulling the plug on a stretchgoal-promised story campaign

 

[BrunoMattei]

Not terribly shocked by F13’s fate, it always seemed like Illfonic was more interested in making the game a fanservice extravaganza than simply making a good horror-themed isometric survival game like DBD. Also, wasn’t there a controversy surrounding the devs pulling the plug on a stretchgoal-promised story campaign

They pulled the plug on a couple of stretch goals. Most notably a peak into Tom Savini's studio for the creation of the Hell Jason that was a backer-exclusive (and there's some damning evidence the devs were selling keys on Ebay for hundreds of dollars). When it turned out the Hell Jason wasn't designed at all by Tom Savini and Savini just loaned them his name.

There eventually was a kind of story mode in the name of a Mission Mode or whatever similar to Hit Man where you have to kill Counselors in X number of ways.

 

[UE 558]

They pulled the plug on a couple of stretch goals. Most notably a peak into Tom Savini's studio for the creation of the Hell Jason that was a backer-exclusive (and there's some damning evidence the devs were selling keys on Ebay for hundreds of dollars). When it turned out the Hell Jason wasn't designed at all by Tom Savini and Savini just loaned them his name.

There eventually was a kind of story mode in the name of a Mission Mode or whatever similar to Hit Man where you have to kill Counselors in X number of ways.

Except Hitman is much more mechanically sound

 

[ProfDongs]

This almost seemed neat, but seeing that its by the F13 people makes me very wary. AvP2 and AvP 2010 both had really fitting designs for feeling like you're playing as a Predator so I really wonder how this will compare. It would be neat to see a variety of winstates in this, like humans having an objective separate from "survive the predator, and escape the map" like how the squad was originally on a mission in the first movie, and something more for the predator too that will give more exp/honor as a reward.
Maybe to limit how strong the Predator is in the beginning they'll have something like a threat gauge that will fill with humans surviving,doing damage, and accomplishing goals that will open up more weapon options for you as the game goes on.
I don't have much faith in this but there is definitely potential though, they will have to put a lot of thought into how to make this balanced though, although that always was an issue with the Alien vs Predator games in the past.

 

[BrunoMattei]

This almost seemed neat, but seeing that its by the F13 people makes me very wary. AvP2 and AvP 2010 both had really fitting designs for feeling like you're playing as a Predator so I really wonder how this will compare. It would be neat to see a variety of winstates in this, like humans having an objective separate from "survive the predator, and escape the map" like how the squad was originally on a mission in the first movie, and something more for the predator too that will give more exp/honor as a reward.
Maybe to limit how strong the Predator is in the beginning they'll have something like a threat gauge that will fill with humans surviving,doing damage, and accomplishing goals that will open up more weapon options for you as the game goes on.
I don't have much faith in this but there is definitely potential though, they will have to put a lot of thought into how to make this balanced though, although that always was an issue with the Alien vs Predator games in the past.

The balance will be a bout as poor as F13. It's all but guaranteed.

 

[Frank D'arbo]

If this actually turns out halfway decent I'll pull a Werner Herzog and eat my shoe.

 

[BrunoMattei]

I expect much fuckery. The more people are aware of this dev's history the better.

 

[Oh Shit I'm Sorry]

The first I ever heard about Ft13 was Adam "The Man, The Meth, The Legend" Sessler promoting the crowdfund which was a pretty big warning sign right there so all the controversy and nonsense it spawned upon release surprised me in the slightest.

At least this time the money is coming out of Sony's pockets I guess.

 

[BrunoMattei]

The first I ever heard about Ft13 was Adam "The Man, The Meth, The Legend" Sessler promoting the crowdfund which was a pretty big warning sign right there so all the controversy and nonsense it spawned upon release surprised me in the slightest.

At least this time the money is coming out of Sony's pockets I guess.

I'm guessing it's going to be a timed exclusive to the PS4. Which means that the console guys will be the beta testers for this. I fully expect game-breaking shit on day 1 that won't be fixed possibly ever.