All of it's cheating but with extra steps.The relationship being open literally doesn't change anything, stop bringing this up
They(Jared and holly) kept doing it even after the relationship was closed, which is still cheating
No, this is a shitposting forum, we're not here to abide by what we "can" and "can't" post in your eyes. If we're autistic the ratings will show it. There's a difference between STATING that they were both seeing other people, it was closed, and then Jared continued it, and completely not mentioning that you both were seeing other people, even if it was less intense on her side. In fact she DID mention that she was okay with the fans sending him nudes, but she left out she was probably okay with it at first because she was also talking to someone. She left that shit out almost certainly because it made her appear a bit more on the victim side, as if he started doing this and left her to deal with it.The relationship being open literally doesn't change anything, stop bringing this up
They(Jared and holly) kept doing it even after the relationship was closed, which is still cheating
You want to police what people can or can't talk about. This is not New Zealand.The relationship being open literally doesn't change anything, stop bringing this up
They(Jared and holly) kept doing it even after the relationship was closed, which is still cheating
Nice job on the videos on all this btw.You want to police what people can or can't talk about. This is not New Zealand.
Not just cheating but cheating between D&D-LARPing, crossdressing, gamer e-celebs and their spouses. Just about everything was doomed to go as wrong as it possibly could've from the start.All of it's cheating but with extra steps.
You want to police what people can or can't talk about. This is not New Zealand.
Brainlets, I'm not saying you can't talk about it i'm saying it's a stupid and a moot pointNo, this is a shitposting forum, we're not here to abide by what we "can" and "can't" post in your eyes. If we're autistic the ratings will show it. There's a difference between STATING that they were both seeing other people, it was closed, and then Jared continued it, and completely not mentioning that you both were seeing other people, even if it was less intense on her side. In fact she DID mention that she was okay with the fans sending him nudes, but she left out she was probably okay with it at first because she was also talking to someone. She left that shit out almost certainly because it made her appear a bit more on the victim side, as if he started doing this and left her to deal with it.
None of this is to say Jared's not a scumbag, but it's reasonably apparent that there is more to the story at this point we are never going to get a full read on.
I saw your post on YouTube about all this. Lots of juicy shit regarding who might be the one she boned, but I'd wait a bit.You want to police what people can or can't talk about. This is not New Zealand.
No one's trying to discredit her and stick up for Jared, and you're the brainlet if you think that it's us vs. them in this thread. We've been roasting Jared this entire time. We're pointing out there's a WORLD of difference between playing the monogamous wife who was cheated on by her husband vs. potentially being the one who initiated it, and at the very LEAST had someone you were boning too. That's a big detail to leave out, she wasn't just OKAY with him getting dick pics and felt betrayed when it escalated to something physical with a real person, she was doing that too. Which means there's more there that caused this that she didn't indicate. She got absurdly defensive when simply asked about this, and it's naturally going to make people wonder if there's more to the story. Jared and Holly claim that the "more to the story" is that Heidi got really jealous and attempted to close off the relationship, and Jared was not big on it and tried to leave her. If you're getting mad that people are investigating the holes in her story in a thread about digging up the latent autism behind this entire thing, that's on you.Brainlets, I'm not saying you can't talk about it i'm saying it's a stupid and a moot point
If the relationship was open and both of them saw other people there's no issue, but when the relationship closed back to monogamy jared still saw another person, which is still cheating
It's not relevant at all and is just a braindead tactic to discredit heidi
P.S you're a paranoid dumbass if you think i'm "censoring" you or whatever by saying "Stop making this dumbass argument"
Its totally relevant given it does discredit Heidi given she was public talking about how virtuous she was and would never want to have a threesome but wanted him and some other twink to spitroast her privately. She's a liar to the public and will say what gets her the support, just like Jared and Holly. You cant take any of them at their word, always wait for proof.It's not relevant at all and is just a braindead tactic to discredit heidi
Sure, she's may no be as virtuous as she saysIts totally relevant given it does discredit Heidi given she was public talking about how virtuous she was and would never want to have a threesome but wanted him and some other twink to spitroast her privately. She's a liar to the public and will say what gets her the support, just like Jared and Holly. You cant take any of them at their word, always wait for proof.
You completely change your argument. Either Jared is just an asshole who cheated on someone who might not nearly be as good as she says after the relationship closed off, or he straight up abused her and is a total piece of shit, which is her side of the story. The reason you're getting people calling you dumb is because that's not a "detail which changed literally nothing", her chatting up someone real is something she absolutely left out. It makes us wonder if her claim that she didn't initiate it is true or not, which she's being incredibly coy about. It also makes us wonder if she had an actual physical in person relationship with this dude, which she has also been coy about.Sure, she's may no be as virtuous as she says
Doesn't change the fact that jared cheated and sent nudes to minors and comparing her to jared and holly is just delusional, he hasn't done a single thing wrong here except hide a detail which changed literally nothing
I'm aware you're desperate to find excuses to hate an abused woman but you're just looking like an idiot
I don't hate anyone here. Every one of these people have made for an amazingly entertaining story of twists and turns I didn't expect. Yeah Jared might have sent nudes to minors, 100% used his fame to get nudes which is also pretty scummy no matter the age. Heidi did something dumb as fuck by opening the marriage to get dick and lied about how she was monogamous and committed. I'm not saying they are all equal here or anything, I'm saying they are all biased, untrustworthy narrators spinning things to make themselves look best, so I'm not going to #believe Heidi when she says she's abused without proof and I sure as fuck wont believe Jared or Holly.Sure, she's may no be as virtuous as she says
Doesn't change the fact that jared cheated and sent nudes to minors and comparing her to jared and holly is just delusional, he hasn't done a single thing wrong here except hide a detail which changed literally nothing
I'm aware you're desperate to find excuses to hate an abused woman but you're just looking like an idiot
I didn't change my argument at all though? I fail to see how saying "Jared cheated on her and sent nudes to underage fans" contradicts "he's an abusive piece of shit"You completely change your argument. Either Jared is just an asshole who cheated on someone who might not nearly be as good as she says after the relationship closed off, or he straight up abused her and is a total piece of shit, which is her side of the story. The reason you're getting people calling you dumb is because that's not a "detail which changed literally nothing", her chatting up someone real is something she absolutely left out. It makes us wonder if her claim that she didn't initiated it is true or not, which she's being incredibly coy about.
This is not the website for you.The only people "calling me dumb" are people who can't read and just regurgitate whatever lets them hate women
You can just admit you're wrong instead of crying like a bitchThis is not the website for you.
Thats not the fucking point you dumb faggot. Jared could be Hitler and Stalins aborted love child and it doesn't make it so that Heidi is now somehow spotless and can't be criticized or hasn't lied by omission or directly when we damn well know she did. Just because someone else looks worse doesn't mean you're automatically perfect or that Heidi can be taken at her word at abuse when even the fucking cats and pigeons are tossing that word around at this point with no evidence.didn't change my argument at all though? I fail to see how saying "Jared cheated on her and sent nudes to underage fans" contradicts "he's an abusive piece of shit"
The only people "calling me dumb" are people who can't read and just regurgitate whatever lets them hate women
Again even if she's lying it doesn't change the fact that jared cheated on her and sent nudes to minors
What a pussy website. If you're reading this, retards on lolcow, don't be a ripoff of a ripoff of 4chan if you're going to be basic bitch twitter lefties.Some dork on lolcow alerted him of the discussion
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Nah, I'm just saying you might want to hang around Gender Critical if people questioning a woman's story instead of piling on a dude who hasn't really said much since the terrible "apology" is enough to tell everyone to stop mentioning it.You can just admit you're wrong instead of crying like a bitch
It wasn't a lie of omission thoughThats not the fucking point you dumb faggot. Jared could be Hitler and Stalins aborted love child and it doesn't make it so that Heidi is now somehow spotless and can't be criticized or hasn't lied by omission or directly when we damn well know. Just because someone else looks worse doesn't mean you're automatically perfect or that Heidi can be taken at her word at abuse when even the fucking cats and pigeons are tossing that word around at this point with no evidence.
You're so mad you can't even quote right in an edit lel. Take a break."Nah, I'm just saying you might want to hang around Gender Critical if people questioning a woman's story instead of piling on a dude who hasn't really said much since the terrible "apology" is enough to tell everyone to stop mentioning it."
You might wanna hang around the redpill if you think a pedophile and cheater is a poor innocent man being "piled on"
Also you aren't questioning her story, nothing you have brought up changes the facts you're just attacking her character because she's not a pure virgin who reads her bible every night before bed
"Ur mad" and nothing else makes YOU look madYou're so mad you can't even quote right in an edit lel. Take a break.
Mod, clean up all our autism.