Proposed New Forum Structure -

[Null]

I brought this up before but people shot it down because "we didn't get enough updates." Well, now we do.

All new facebook posts, youtube threads, hoarded cocks dumps, etc go into Update forum. I'm considering either disabling replies from non-staff entirely (forcing people to discuss in the Speculation forum), or strictly monitoring replies for 100% relevance to the OP. Marvin and Alec may get moderator powers in that forum if that were the case.

Speculation becomes the main discussion board. "Speculation and Discussion" might be a better name.

Sonichu retains its gloriously refined purpose of canon material.


All general boards will become their own level 1 forum under the General category. The current General forum will become "Off-Topic".

Lolcow General becomes a part of the General category, under Off-Topic.

CWCki Forums and Spergatory boards remain untouched.

 

[CatParty]

yes i agree great change

 

[TL 611]

such great change

 

[ChurchOfGodBear]

I kinda see where you're going with this. Honestly, I don't care how the forums are divided, as long as it's pretty clear what topic belongs where. I'm assuming "Speculation" would be for the talk that goes in the general "Chris" forum now?

 

[Null]

I kinda see where you're going with this. Honestly, I don't care how the forums are divided, as long as it's pretty clear what topic belongs where. I'm assuming "Speculation" would be for the talk that goes in the general "Chris" forum now?

Yea. The issue we're having is that important shit is being drowned in an ocean of random topics. I don't really care about things like having 10 "Can chris hold a job?" threads when updates and actual content are clearly visible.

 

[Pikonic]

I like the idea of the changes to the Chris forums.
I like generals sub forums, but I won't miss them dearly.

Edit: Oh, They will no longer be subfourms. I read that as there will no longer be subfourms

Disregard everything I said, great change.

 

[ChurchOfGodBear]

I kinda see where you're going with this. Honestly, I don't care how the forums are divided, as long as it's pretty clear what topic belongs where. I'm assuming "Speculation" would be for the talk that goes in the general "Chris" forum now?

Yea. The issue we're having is that important shit is being drowned in an ocean of random topics. I don't really care about things like having 10 "Can chris hold a job?" threads when updates and actual content are clearly visible.

My main concern is, for example, let's say Chris posts FB rant about a McD's worker saying he was smelly. Anna asspats him. COGB wants to start a thread talking about how Anna is essentially lying to Chris by saying he's perfectly normal and not at all smelly.

Is this speculation? Not in the strictest sense of the word, since it's dealing with events that have actually happened?

Is this Da Update? Well, it's related to Da Update... but if that's a mod-only forum, regular users can't post there.

How would this work?

 

[Null]

I like the idea of the changes to the Chris forums.
I like generals sub forums, but I won't miss them dearly.

Updated spec for clarification. I don't see how people are missing this.

How would this work?

Yeah, and this is the biggest problem and it's the one we face right now.

When someone drops new content or Chris posts an update, the thread explodes into a 40 page long shitheap of irrelevant discussion. To anyone approaching the topic a day late, it's not worth reading. This is bad.
With this structure, no discussion is allowed immediately within the update thread so any new conversation would need a mirror thread in discussion. This is pretty complicated, but it does declutter the topic, maybe too much.

I'm thinking a middle ground would be this:
- Make the Update forum allow replies from regular users.
- Posts allowed for this topic should be reactions and contribute. Chris makes a topic about Snoopy being sick. Reactions would be disgust, "i'm not really surprised", "this is one thing that really makes me angry". Any questions, "can they afford care for the dog?" belong in the Discussion board in their own thread.

Basically, the moderators for the Update forum will mostly be tasked with taking irrelevant discussion and splitting it out into the discussion board as their own topic.

The drawback to this is that it heavily divides attention between two boards. Instead of just paying attention to the Chris forum and F5ing, you now have to switch back and forth and it doesn't really have good flow.

 

[TL 611]

Updated spec for clarification. I don't see how people are missing this.

Because your writing skills suck ass

 

[CatParty]

how does one get access to the vip threads?

 

[RV 229]

I like the idea of an update forum. One of the reasons I check up on the Chris forum as often as I do is because new updates are posted there before they're posted on the Cwcki main page, usually. Not to mention, sometimes speculation posted there (usually by Marv or Alec) can give more insight than just the screencap being posted to the "facebook" page on the CWCki anyways.

how does one get access to the vip threads?

I think he means that only VIP members can POST threads in that forum. That way it doesn't spawn a bunch of random "Can Chris do X?" threads to drown out actual content.

 

[ChurchOfGodBear]

I'm thinking a middle ground would be this:
- Make the Update forum allow replies from regular users.
- Posts allowed for this topic should be reactions and contribute. Chris makes a topic about Snoopy being sick. Reactions would be disgust, "i'm not really surprised", "this is one thing that really makes me angry". Any questions, "can they afford care for the dog?" belong in the Discussion board in their own thread.

Basically, the moderators for the Update forum will mostly be tasked with taking irrelevant discussion and splitting it out into the discussion board as their own topic.

The drawback to this is that it heavily divides attention between two boards. Instead of just paying attention to the Chris forum and F5ing, you now have to switch back and forth and it doesn't really have good flow.

This sounds good to me, or at least better than what I imagined when I opened this thread. Personally, I hate flipping between forums, which is why you almost never see me in General. I don't mind giant threads myself, but I can see how they'd be a deterrent for latecomers. My biggest beef with this plan is that it would require a lot of modding, to keep things focused and on-topic... and honestly, I think it's in our nature to get a little speculative when news drops. If Snoopy is sick, it's natural to wonder if it's due to conditions, treatment, or just bad luck... and it's natural to try and determine if it's related to yesterday's post about Chris saying the dog food company was run by homosexuals. I'm not sure it's helpful or practical to curtail discussion in those first few hours after news hits.

That said... I do like the concept here, separating the "stuff we know about" topics to the "stuff we can't possibly know about, but want to discuss anyway" topics.

 

[Bgheff]

how does one get access to the vip threads?

By being a VIP. Jesting aside, I assume people that drop content will be posting in those threads. That way if there is an update (like Chris or his friends commenting on a post), you can see it right away rather than digging through 30 pages.

 

[TheIncredibleLioness]

I like the new changes, particularly since I find any updates can quickly be lost in the sea of threads in the Chris forum. Having their own update section would be an easy way to look through them. I'm not sure how well withholding discussion would work, but I do like the idea of keeping it relatively on topic -- I don't browse here as much as I used to, so I find myself having to play catch up with a very long topic and losing track of what's being talked about. But I agree that it would require some very stringent moddding, which may not be possible? I don't know. But on the whole, I like the changes.

 

[TL 611]

the problem with allowing reactions on update posts is it'll just become everyone going "oh my god he's disgusting" over and over.

ChurchofGodBear you wouldnt have to switch forums that often, you could continue to just go to the discussion one and look at threads. Imagine that the discussion one is basically Chris now. Youd still be allowed to discuss the updates there and there'd be threads there about all the updates. The discussion threads would surely either link to the update ones or mention the update themselves.

The reason I want the update subforum is so i dont have to look at all the discussion, because im lazy.

 

[LM 697]

This is the worst idea in the long, sad history of bad ideas, and I'm gonna be there when you learn that.

 

[Banshee]

Call it "Da Update"?

 

[pickleniggo]

I'm kind of torn on this. Having been someone who's been late to the party on a few updates, I understand how much of a pain in the ass it is to read 20+ pages of discussion that's all over the place. But that's how it goes. I think splitting updates and discussion will require a lot of modding. I also really like General as it is, but I think Lolcow General would make sense placed there as a subforum.

 

[rocket]

I don't read or post in General and the OPL subforum has been drowning in abysmally low-quality threads lately, so this all looks fine to me

 

[KatsuKitty]

how does one get access to the vip threads?

This subforum already exists and is used to make it easier to discuss with people closer to Chris how to drop or handle certain information.