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I was always told not to curse too much, that the boys found it unattractive.

Fuck that noise.
It always baffles me how these "social norms" come around. Like the post earlier that women are socially pressured to not show outward interest in men. Just WTF is this coming from?

It sure isnt men saying this. Men would love nothing more then a woman who is very clear on what she wants and who she likes, and dont put tons of effort to appear overly polite. Just.....look at the way men talk to each other.
 

Azafran90

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What is the first thing that makes you look at a man and say: "Wow he's pathetic, I would never want to be with him"
Men that don't take care of their body or the way they look.

-Poor fashion sense: guy's fashion isn't even that hard to get, but some guys are bent on wearing unflattening styles because "it's practicaaaal" which really just translates to "My mom has yet to teach me how to dress like an adult"

-Poor hygiene: Jesus christ just shower

The absolute worst are guys who are bent on living with their mothers
 

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What is the first thing that makes you look at a man and say: "Wow he's pathetic, I would never want to be with him"
That's a good question.

This will vary with any woman, as much as it would with any guy with judging a girl...

One thing would be if the guy is clearly unkempt. In highschool, I would see the guys who tried to have long hair, but it was greasy and unkempt. They didnt put in the effort to get proper haircare I guess? Looked dirty, told me that he's lazy or helpless, whatever. If you dont want to care for your hair you might as well shave it off - forget growing it to or past your shoulders. (See foodie beauty's cuck. Peetz. Huge bald spot, hair looks nasty, why the hell doesnt he shave it? Lazy manchild, probably, I guess?)

ETA I think that poor fashion/hygiene/health indicate serious flaws whether it be immaturity, laziness, or accountability, so inherently these become a factors that many women instinctively weigh heavily.

Maybe you can think about what instantly turns you off from a woman, then try to think of a male equivalent.

Something I've noticed also in inexperienced men is that they try to emulate "chads" (men with charisma, confidence, charm, who may or may not treat women well in reality) but their emulation comes across as misogynist and entitled. This is more nuanced than the other red flag.
 
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While a good skin care routine helps with over all skin health, if you have acne that doesn't get better with age or is almost always present, don't wait for years thinking you just haven't found the right cleanser, or moisturize,or waste money on over the counter treatments that aren't strong enough. You probably need antibiotics and either spironolactone or acutane, so just go to the fucking dermatologist.
Umm, is accutane the one that causes birth defects and suicidal ideation?
 

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What is the first thing that makes you look at a man and say: "Wow he's pathetic, I would never want to be with him"
Like a turn off? Teeth. It’s the first thing I tend to notice about a guy. Meth mouth is an instant out.
Personality wise, I’d agree with @ricecake. Being overly obsessive of their mother, overly resentful, or letting their moms control their lives as adults. Big red flag.
 
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Sorry if this is silly, but I never heard of spironolactone... is it similar to accutane?

I've also wondered how exactly antibiotics would help acne. Is it because the acne could be a symptom of an infection/illness?

(Idk if you know specifically, just putting the questions out there)
Spironolactone actually has a few uses. It's a diuretic, so it was originally used to treat heart failure and kidney disease. It's also an antiandrogenic, which makes it useful for women in the treatment of stubborn acne and other skin ailments, and sometime for PCOS too. They also give it to trannies lol. It acts a bit like accutane in that it reduces oil production, with the advantage of only needing a blood test once a year, but unlike accutane it's not permanent* and you have to keep taking it. It also flushes out of your system fairly quickly so if you become pregnant you're less likely to wind up with a horribly deformed child than if you're on accutane.

Antibiotics are used to help control Cutibacterium acnes , which is considered part of the normal flora of humans but also has a link to acne. Some people can clear up their acne just with antibiotics, but most people need more than just the antibiotics by themselves.

*Though sometimes accutane isn't permanent either :\

Umm, is accutane the one that causes birth defects and suicidal ideation?
Birth defects yes, I don't remember anything about suicidal ideation but I wouldn't be surprised. It can also fuck your liver something hard, which is why you have to have periodic blood tests with it.
 
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What is the first thing that makes you look at a man and say: "Wow he's pathetic, I would never want to be with him"
Any kind of extreme really. Poor hygiene or ridiculously groomed and manicured are both a turn off. looking like a Parisian catwalk model isn’t my thing either. I dont like the soy hipster look. I don’t like the chav boy look. I don’t like the car salesman look. Just be clean and dress appropriately for whatever you’re doing.
Remember as well that there’s a big difference between ‘ideal man’ and ‘man someone ends up with and is totally happy with.’ I like the six foot four grizzled woodsmen/fisherman/roughneck type but I’m quite happy with my entirely normal looking other half because he’s kind and funny and smart and we just are good for each other.
Just be normal, be clean, Be respectful, don’t do extremes of look or behaviour and treat women like human beings not whores or angels, and you’ll be fine, eventually. Everyone gets rejected plenty, thats normal.
 

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Why do so many women have such difficulty expressing interest in men? Nearly every lady I've known behaves as if they've never interacted with the opposite sex before.
Women don't become interested/form attachments to people. They form attachments to the bank accounts of those people. They act uninterested because they aren't interested until they know what kind of money is available to them.

This is because women are hard-wired to be provided for rather than to provide. It's the same reason they all vote for socialist politicians and shout-down anyone who stands against the nanny-state.
 

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While a good skin care routine helps with over all skin health, if you have acne that doesn't get better with age or is almost always present, don't wait for years thinking you just haven't found the right cleanser, or moisturize, or waste money on over the counter treatments that aren't strong enough. You probably need antibiotics and either spironolactone or accutane, so just go to the fucking dermatologist.
Fun fact: some breakouts are actually hives. So treating with acne creams what you need antihistamines for isn't great for your skin. I didn't learn this until I started allergy shots and became aware of how my allergy sensitivities fluctuated, but it's absolutely something I wish I knew sooner.

On the note of acne, for most, oil production goes down as we age, but things like stress, diet, hormones can throw it out of balance. Something as simple as a multivitamin can sort things out, if it's an oil issue (also helps with oily hair).
 

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Women don't become interested/form attachments to people. They form attachments to the bank accounts of those people. They act uninterested because they aren't interested until they know what kind of money is available to them.

This is because women are hard-wired to be provided for rather than to provide. It's the same reason they all vote for socialist politicians and shout-down anyone who stands against the nanny-state.
Honestly?
This rhetoric right here is what creates incels who cant help but act like women are some other species.
This mindset will cause you to die alone, end up with a woman who hates herself/other women/is emotionally immature, or you'll have to hide it.
 

muh_moobs

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Honestly?
This rhetoric right here is what creates incels who cant help but act like women are some other species.
This mindset will cause you to die alone, end up with a woman who hates herself/other women/is emotionally immature, or you'll have to hide it.
Cope harder.

Sorry the truth hurts. Any time a woman is presented with a chance to trade up to a husband with a bigger salary she'll take it. Housewives and "sugar babies" wouldn't be accepted in society.

Also, all women hate each other by default. The ones who claim otherwise are just lying.
 

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Why do so many women have such difficulty expressing interest in men? Nearly every lady I've known behaves as if they've never interacted with the opposite sex before.
I'm going to be completely honest: I didn't express interest because passively, people always expressed their interest to me first and I was very unsure about how you do it. Traditionally, guys hit on girls and even though it's dumb people kind of subconsciously follow that pattern. A lot of guys feel like girls like the attention and play hard to get but to me at least I hated it, it made me cringe every single time and I felt like I wanted to die of embarrassment. I would always say I had a boyfriend because it had the lowest chance of embarrassing or hurting the person, I knew it took a lot of guts to ask someone out and I didn't want to hurt their confidence.

I began a relationship with a girl when I was 16 that lasted most of my adult life and even then it was her who hit on me. I honestly just had no fucking idea how to do it, male or female.

Funnily enough, I met someone here who was a guy and was awesome. I realised I liked him but I was really worried I'd make our excellent friendship weird if I told him. I talked to a mutual friend who had also had a thing for him and he said that when he'd told him (pronouns are confusing, I'm talking about two different guy friends) he was totally fine with it and things weren't weird between them. That gave me the courage to tell him, and the slick bastard had been waiting for me to say something because he could tell I liked him. So, he played it cool and I was the one who pursued him. We've been married for over 3 years now, so it worked out really fucking well. I found the one person in the world who was right for me, despite me not believing that shit existed, and he's a fucking legend. Nool owes me a trophy.

tl;dr: Regardless of gender, if you like someone just tell them.

Rating myself turbo optimistic for not shitposting. I really should have just shitposted.
 

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Cope harder.

Sorry the truth hurts. Any time a woman is presented with a chance to trade up to a husband with a bigger salary she'll take it. Housewives and "sugar babies" wouldn't be accepted in society.

Also, all women hate each other by default. The ones who claim otherwise are just lying.
Honestly, it's sad to me when someone thinks this way, because they will only hurt themselves in the long run.

It's a really defeatist mindset, and in some cases it's a symptom of something else - whether that be improperly grieved heartbreak, social anxiety, or untreated mental illness.

This is an advice thread, so I would tell you to spend less time on the internet where that rhetoric thrives, spend more time irl whether that be hiking or meditating, and consider getting a specialized counselor.
 

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getting a specialized counselor.
This proves my point. Your entire post was just a back-handed and deceitful way to say that you're insecure that a man sees you for what you truly are and to attempt to gas-light men rather than acknowledge the truth.

There's nothing wrong with trying to find the man that will finance the laziest lifestyle for you. It's horribly dishonest, to yourself and everyone around you, to lie about it.

Why do you think that the #1 thing women say they're attracted to is "confidence"? Because with confidence comes money, and they know it would be shallow to admit that you're all just a bunch of gold-diggers. This is why women don't "express interest". They simply aren't interested in anyone, at least not romantically. Sure, women see men they'd like to have sex with, but that doesn't matter. Women are lazy by nature, and by sitting back and playing the field, waiting for a man to be confident enough to approach you, increases the chances that you find one with an acceptably large bank account.

If, once you're on your first date with you you decide he isn't financially successful enough for you, well, just send him packing and wait for the next wallet to come talk to you.
 

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This proves my point. Your entire post was just a back-handed and deceitful way to say that you're insecure that a man sees you for what you truly are and to attempt to gas-light men rather than acknowledge the truth.

There's nothing wrong with trying to find the man that will finance the laziest lifestyle for you. It's horribly dishonest, to yourself and everyone around you, to lie about it.

Why do you think that the #1 thing women say they're attracted to is "confidence"? Because with confidence comes money, and they know it would be shallow to admit that you're all just a bunch of gold-diggers. This is why women don't "express interest". They simply aren't interested in anyone, at least not romantically. Sure, women see men they'd like to have sex with, but that doesn't matter. Women are lazy by nature, and by sitting back and playing the field, waiting for a man to be confident enough to approach you, increases the chances that you find one with an acceptably large bank account.

If, once you're on your first date with you you decide he isn't financially successful enough for you, well, just send him packing and wait for the next wallet to come talk to you.
I'm not gaslighting you, and you're purposefully misconstruing my points to fit your worldview.

Why would I be insecure that you're perpetuating misogynist rhetoric? I dont know you, and I truly think that you are wrong.

I know that finances are important, to both men and women, and I never said that it wasn't important. You seem to think that all or most women are gold diggers who put money above all, however, and that's inaccurate. That makes me think that you're trying to rationalize your own experiences, and that's why I recommended therapy and spending less time online where misogynist rhetoric thrives.

Listen, you answered a question in a thread "questions for women," and when a woman tells you that you are wrong, you doubled down.

Fine, have your opinions, but do you not see how that's autistic af? You aren't helping anyone.
 

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This proves my point. Your entire post was just a back-handed and deceitful way to say that you're insecure that a man sees you for what you truly are and to attempt to gas-light men rather than acknowledge the truth.

There's nothing wrong with trying to find the man that will finance the laziest lifestyle for you. It's horribly dishonest, to yourself and everyone around you, to lie about it.

Why do you think that the #1 thing women say they're attracted to is "confidence"? Because with confidence comes money, and they know it would be shallow to admit that you're all just a bunch of gold-diggers. This is why women don't "express interest". They simply aren't interested in anyone, at least not romantically. Sure, women see men they'd like to have sex with, but that doesn't matter. Women are lazy by nature, and by sitting back and playing the field, waiting for a man to be confident enough to approach you, increases the chances that you find one with an acceptably large bank account.

If, once you're on your first date with you you decide he isn't financially successful enough for you, well, just send him packing and wait for the next wallet to come talk to you.
...So, do you believe every person to be an emotionless, interest-less being who feels attraction to money rather than personality, or is it for some reason just women?
 
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