r/antiwork - Yes, it's exactly what it sounds like.

  • We're mostly back to 100%. Expect more disruptions that will cause sister service outages for the forseeable future.

How will society function without jobs?

  • Uhh.. tax billionaires even more?

  • Automatisation!!11!1

  • I've heard of this thing called, uh, UBI before... sounds cool...

  • Hiring professional Reddit moderators (and banning evil users with dirty opinions)

  • I don't care, GIVE ME FREE STUFF.


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Duke Nukem

Leader of the Anti-Chad Extermination Squad
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I truly despise that people have gotten the notion that we can somehow get rid of work and then we can live fulfilled lives. Even if magically that automation would suddenly make all the work disappear (lol), it still would still lead to a society with great crime and drug use as we as human beings need purpose and without some degree of work, we tend to fall apart or just become needlessly indulgent.
I understand the whole notion behind the whole "abolish work" attitude, a lot of people have jobs that they hate in firms that don't give a fuck about them. But they're afraid to do anything to change that, like, I dunno, getting a new job? I've had jobs I hated too but it didn't stop me from working.

I understand the argument that forcing someone to work for someone that despises and disrespects them for minimum wage just to survive is basically a form of slavery, I've done this myself, but the anti-work attitude comes largely from the stereotypical lazy rich white kid millennial types.

Then again, maybe Chris-Chan is onto something by refusing to get a job. After all, he only did so well in Wendy's and it's kind of liberating knowing that you don't have to be up at the crack of dawn to flip burgers to pay off your student loan debts for your failed liberal arts program.
 

MrAnnoyingDude

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It's funny how the subreddit's "reading resources" basically looped to the boomer argument that "if you're sitting at a desk, it ain't a real job!"

But at least these boomers actually were willing to do jobs.

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jje100010001

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They're not wrong that a lot of Americans are frankly overworked, underappreciated and most importantly, underpaid- but I see this as suffering from the same phenomenon that Fat Acceptance advocates typically fall for- that certain individuals will inevitably push the concept to its literal extreme.

So in terms of Fat Acceptance it went from trying to expand beauty standards beyond the unhealthy Twiggy aesthetic, to pushing blatant obesity as being the 'new normal' of health, while also trying to marginalize others.
 

Shaka Brah

Patriotic Ass-Blasting Poster
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It's funny how the subreddit's "reading resources" basically looped to the boomer argument that "if you're sitting at a desk, it ain't a real job!"

But at least these boomers actually were willing to do jobs.

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I can't say I necessarily disagree with that reading, but it seems the antiwork people completely misunderstand the point.

A lot of contemporary critics and most early modern philosophers correctly identified the managerial class as a huge issue. Bloated managerial departments like Human Resources or, in some Silicon Valley companies and most universities, "Diversity" staff, exist solely for self-perpetuation and don't provide any value-added onto the goods and services a company produces. Those jobs are in fact largely unnecessary, and the people in them are likely aware of that and so create or inflate problems in their work environment as a way of rent-seeking to justify their existence.

But to transform that into "all work sucks pay me to do nothing at all" completely misses the point. Most jobs are satisfying. Physical labor especially tends to lead to satisfaction, since in the trades you tend to see projects or products completed and you have a physical good to be proud of.

The people in /r/antiwork are the same as the people in those useless managerial jobs except they don't get paid. They're guaranteed to be deeply unsatisfied no matter what happens because being a NEET is unsatisfying, and they will inevitably cause problems for society in order to seek value and gratification.
 

albert chan

I write computer programs for a living
True & Honest Fan
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the unique thing about r/antiwork is that Reddit pays people to moderate and/or shadowban people that come up with excuses as to how you the worst at not not knowing how to not know how to not work.

of course, this is Reddit, but still, pretty interesting to say the least.
 

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