r/antiwork - Yes, it's exactly what it sounds like.

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How will society function without jobs?


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Dreamer

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For the last time, I was talking about low-skill service jobs like burger-flippers and cashiers. I sincerely doubt that the people that post in antiwork are in skilled jobs like sanitation, construction, or manufacturing, which are actually necessary and who are not respected by the aspiring artisans that make up the anti-work movement.
Can you please stop with this weird cope?
What are the odds that a million people from reddit all work in this increasingly shrinking niche you deemed worthless? 0
And even if by some miracle they all worked in burger king or whatever are you really that much of a delusional dipshit as to think theyre not needed and all bad cuz stupid so fuck them?
Cmon, youre giving other anime-avatars a bad name.
 

MT Foxtrot

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For the last time, I was talking about low-skill service jobs like burger-flippers and cashiers. I sincerely doubt that the people that post in antiwork are in skilled jobs like sanitation, construction, or manufacturing, which are actually necessary and who are not respected by the aspiring artisans that make up the anti-work movement.
You're thinking that people in those fields can't be pissed off about their job? C'mon...
 

El Gato Grande

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You hit the nail on the head. A former colleague of mine actually posted a lot on r/antiwork recently. They have a Master’s Degree and was unemployed for the past four years. Didn’t help that they went back to school right after undergrad too, so they had little to no connections with prospective employers right after it was finished.

During that time, they also somehow managed to afford rent in one of the most expensive cities in the US and spend a decent amount of money on impulse purchases (e.g. drugs, pets, video games, nice clothes, etc.). I later found out that they received a “allowance” from their parents every month.

They also claim to be a victim of physical and sexual abuse from family and friends, which their entire “manifesto” may be a response to. They certainly weren’t “sheltered” in the example quoted above, but I do think that they are more privileged then they make themselves to be and have a hard time reconciling that reality with their failings.

Trauma will fuck everyone up in some way, but there are certainly healthy methods to deal with it. This is not one of them and it will not be sustainable when their radicalism escalates to toxicity and outright discrimination.

I do think a lot of these people face genuine hardship, but it isn’t as bad as they make it out to be, and they utterly fail at helping themselves.

In the west the cost of living is skyrocketing while unskilled labor is becoming less valuable by the year. Nobody gives a shit about middle age losers with no talents, skills or connections, living paycheck to paycheck as the food they eat sets them up for health problems later in life which they can’t afford the treatment for.

Yet at the same time the amount of things you can take advantage of in the modern, western world are uncountable. You can find healthy food for cheap. If you’re willing to bust your ass you can break into a field with decent pay without needing to spend tens of thousands on a bachelors degree. You can learn almost anything online. Even if you’re homeless without a penny to your name you can find shelter/food and even medical care assuming you’re not a meth zombie.

If these people were desperate they would be talking about eating and working a third job to pay for their debts, instead of shitty managers and proudly declaring how they quit their job to stick it to them.

While a lot of the things they complain about legitimately suck their “solution” is to double down and become an antisocial doomer who hyper focuses on their own problems and bitches on Reddit about how victimized they are instead of doing anything to improve their lives IRL. On one hand antiwork is petty, harmless and the sentiment has a lot going for it because of how terrible the job market has become (if you’re too low IQ or unlucky to have a strategic professional life and to have marketable skills), but its also infecting numerous young, gullible people with an attitude which will only make things worse.
 
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eternal dog mongler

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You're thinking that people in those fields can't be pissed off about their job? C'mon...
Of course, but the thing about this is that it doesn't really come down to education or the skills you have, it's how much agency you have in your job along with how replaceable you are.

You can go to med school and become an emergency medicine MD and then work for Envision. Guess what? You might make $300k a year but they will absolutely grind you into dust because there are more EM MDs than available job openings.

Ultimately a good job is one where you have some agency. Good jobs and bad jobs exist across the entire spectrum, but if you're performing unskilled work you'll basically never get that.
 

JustStopDude

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Can you please stop with this weird cope?
What are the odds that a million people from reddit all work in this increasingly shrinking niche you deemed worthless? 0
And even if by some miracle they all worked in burger king or whatever are you really that much of a delusional dipshit as to think theyre not needed and all bad cuz stupid so fuck them?
Cmon, youre giving other anime-avatars a bad name.
I'd say pretty good considering that Reddit is filled with sock accounts and the average person on that subreddit thinks accepting an allowance from their parents constitutes labor.
 

chiobu

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That's some massive virtue signalling and a huge leap of logic to take from the original uber video

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LinkinParkxNaruto[AMV]

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Yet at the same time the amount of things you can take advantage of in the modern, western world are uncountable. You can find healthy food for cheap. If you’re willing to bust your ass you can break into a field with decent pay without needing to spend tens of thousands on a bachelors degree. You can learn almost anything online. Even if you’re homeless without a penny to your name you can find shelter/food and even medical care assuming you’re not a meth zombie.
Like 10 years ago people were talking about how kids now growing up with so much information and access to tech would be savants that would displace all the older people in the workplace in a second but nah, turns out even with all the information available and for free there´s still pleb filters, people don't just log into Matrix and learn 5 languages botany, how to code, trade crypto, kung fu and how to be a sushi chef all at the same time before they turn 20 just because the tutorials and supplements are online for free.

Realistically being really good at just one thing could improve some average joe's life inmensely but in the presence of an overwhelming amount of options a lot of people will just freeze up and choke under pressure, in a way all the information is becoming more of a burden than a boon, lots of young people suffer from FOMO, lack of focus and really warped expectations, even if they are doing okay, what even is the standard to be "just fine" anymore? too many tangents and options to compare yourself too, the colective has not yet adjusted to deal with this, it doesn't help that information warfare is a constant and demoralization tactics in the youth are happening everytime everywhere , it creates disease, you shoudn't shit were you eat, i think the internet feels like that sometimes, a dirty place everyone uses to shit and eat at the same times.
 

Shaka Brah

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Like 10 years ago people were talking about how kids now growing up with so much information and access to tech would be savants that would displace all the older people in the workplace in a second but nah, turns out even with all the information available and for free there´s still pleb filters, people don't just log into Matrix and learn 5 languages botany, how to code, trade crypto, kung fu and how to be a sushi chef all at the same time before they turn 20 just because the tutorials and supplements are online for free.

Realistically being really good at just one thing could improve some average joe's life inmensely but in the presence of an overwhelming amount of options a lot of people will just freeze up and choke under pressure, in a way all the information is becoming more of a burden than a boon, lots of young people suffer from FOMO, lack of focus and really warped expectations, even if they are doing okay, what even is the standard to be "just fine" anymore? too many tangents and options to compare yourself too, the colective has not yet adjusted to deal with this, it doesn't help that information warfare is a constant and demoralization tactics in the youth are happening everytime everywhere , it creates disease, you shoudn't shit were you eat, i think the internet feels like that sometimes, a dirty place everyone uses to shit and eat at the same times.
Even if someone did learn something skilled like botany online, rampant credentialism is keeping people who know what they're doing but don't have a degree out of those fields. And the required credentials for white collar work keep rising.

The best careers right now for people with ambition are blue collar.
 

Save the Loli

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Even if someone did learn something skilled like botany online, rampant credentialism is keeping people who know what they're doing but don't have a degree out of those fields. And the required credentials for white collar work keep rising.
Unfortunately, the agreed-upon solution to this is giving everyone free college instead of pushing for structural change in the business world.
 

Schatzi Katze

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That's some massive virtue signalling and a huge leap of logic to take from the original uber video

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Gotta love the mental gymnastics these fucks put themselves though to try to white knight their fantasy fetish profession.
Theyre seriously arguing for the continued and protected existence of one of the most inherently abusive industries on the planet in the context of being "anti-work". The dissonance and the coomerism is palpable.
 

z0mb0

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Gotta love the mental gymnastics these fucks put themselves though to try to white knight their fantasy fetish profession.
Theyre seriously arguing for the continued and protected existence of one of the most inherently abusive industries on the planet in the context of being "anti-work". The dissonance and the coomerism is palpable.
women who do porns average life expectancy is 36, and thats just porn not street walker/lot lizard/escort. do the anti work people expect the whore to fuck them for free?
 

Schatzi Katze

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women who do porns average life expectancy is 36, and thats just porn not street walker/lot lizard/escort. do the anti work people expect the whore to fuck them for free?
Its that incel to AGP trans pipeline kicking in. Interacting with other humans is too difficult so incel wants to be assigned a woman to fuck for free, but that's obviously never going to happen. So they try to become the woman and their AGP coombrain goes "now that I'm a sexy woman I should get PAID to fuck!" though they never dip a toe in the industry because they probably have a cushy desk job. They only like the idea of prostitution because it gets them off imagining themselves as the exploited person, which is why they defend the industry as a whole and not the people trapped and abused in it. So much for worker solidarity eh.
 

Dreamer

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Gotta love the mental gymnastics these fucks put themselves though to try to white knight their fantasy fetish profession.
Theyre seriously arguing for the continued and protected existence of one of the most inherently abusive industries on the planet in the context of being "anti-work". The dissonance and the coomerism is palpable.
Its that incel to AGP trans pipeline kicking in. Interacting with other humans is too difficult so incel wants to be assigned a woman to fuck for free, but that's obviously never going to happen. So they try to become the woman and their AGP coombrain goes "now that I'm a sexy woman I should get PAID to fuck!" though they never dip a toe in the industry because they probably have a cushy desk job. They only like the idea of prostitution because it gets them off imagining themselves as the exploited person, which is why they defend the industry as a whole and not the people trapped and abused in it. So much for worker solidarity eh.
No need for advanced theories here, those people support """sex work""" simply because they're part of an ever expanding group that you can either agree with 100% or you're branded a heretic.
There's no logical process behind it, just a cost-benefit analysis.
Most people supporting """sex work""" would be uncomfortable with doing it or using it, but they simple never interact with the concept in any way, at least until their girlfriend starts posting pictures from inside of her asshole on onlyfans. You can hold contradictory views until you have to think about them.

This "all or nothing" mindset that counterculture has is really harmful and illogical.
"If you want to support "marginalized people" then you have to support ALL of them"
"If you want to respect gender identities then you have to respect EACH AND EVERY ONE i come up with"
This is child logic, all it takes for you to make someone like this do your bidding is to spin your "issue" as something he should already be supporting anyway.
So why do people think like this? Because they don't care, they want to be left alone so they adapt this simple mindset that lets them ignore this bullshit faster.
I can bet good money that most SJWHATEVERs/socialists care about maybe 5% of what's under their banner now, the part that concerns them, and to everything else they just agree because who cares, leave me alone.
 

Flaming Insignias

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I'd pay good money to see r/antiwork seriously debate whether or not creators on OnlyFans or Twitch should unionize. That discussion might actually lead to a civil war within the subreddit.
There will be no debate, they think everyone should be unionized, because they know how much sweet dosh comes out of the people paying dues.