Plagued /r/TNOmod and the Reddit HOI4 modding community - When a subreddit for a video game mod turns to utter insanity

Jimboree

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Alright, sorry for asking but the who the hell is Joe Pcola again? I keep seeing him getting brought up but I seem to have missed his "introduction" so to speak to the drama here.
 

Hiteles

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Alright, sorry for asking but the who the hell is Joe Pcola again? I keep seeing him getting brought up but I seem to have missed his "introduction" so to speak to the drama here.
He was known as Cass in the discord. He was a modder in the HOI4 community who initially was just a stupid retard. Then it was brought up that he had an autist retarded girlfriend (not to offend the girl; but she has intelectual retardation or something like that), that was also underage. Then his discord account was hacked (well, not really, but let's say it was hacked just for the sake of the argument), and it was discovered that underage minors sent him(her?/it?) nudes, which are legally talking child porn. So... yeah. Basically that. He was the lead dev of some mod called HGO (Historical Geographic Overhaul, I think); currently it has other name but I don't remember. Then he tried to take over TNO (or was it TNO reddit redux? I don't remember either). Anyway, if I was to say the worst characteristic of him (besides pedophilia), it's his inconmensurable larping. I don't know, maybe he has an histrionic personality disorder, or some shit like that. But he just can never stop larping, like, there's so many examples. Firstly, it was hilarious (in a lolcow-y way), then, it was fucking cringe.
 

Hyper

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If Paradox does something about this, then this is big news. TNO’s days may actually be numbered.
don't get excited just yet because they knew about it really back in the day when it's started and becoming big, its been months now, and they didn't do anything about it other than collecting golden nuggets for their pocket

anything bad that comes to light or signal boosting it would hurt them either way in a PR standpoint
 

Hiteles

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don't get excited just yet because they knew about it really back in the day when it's started and becoming big, its been months now, and they didn't do anything about it other than collecting golden nuggets for their pocket
I mean, but, what could Paradox do if they wanted to do something? This is a legitimate question, btw, not being ironic. Like, could they ban their paradox accounts? Ban TNO from the Steam workshop or something like that? Or do something like «PARADOX SAYS PEDOPHILIA BAD»? Considering HOI4 it's +13, maybe it wouldn't be underappreciated to remember their redditor fanbase pedophilia is, indeed, bad. But I don't really know if Paradox getting into this would make such a difference other than making more people knowledgeable (which I guess it's important, to some extent).

Also, doesn't TNO use a lot of swastikas and nazi images? I thought they banned swastikas mods and that kind of stuff. Also, TNO has lots of genocides. Didn't Paradox banned Holocaust simulator mods because «Holocaust and genocide bad»?
 

Hyper

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I mean, but, what could Paradox do if they wanted to do something? This is a legitimate question, btw, not being ironic. Like, could they ban their paradox accounts? Ban TNO from the Steam workshop or something like that? Or do something like «PARADOX SAYS PEDOPHILIA BAD»? Considering HOI4 it's +13, maybe it wouldn't be underappreciated to remember their redditor fanbase pedophilia is, indeed, bad. But I don't really know if Paradox getting into this would make such a difference other than making more people knowledgeable (which I guess it's important, to some extent).

Also, doesn't TNO use a lot of swastikas and nazi images? I thought they banned swastikas mods and that kind of stuff. Also, TNO has lots of genocides. Didn't Paradox banned Holocaust simulator mods because «Holocaust and genocide bad»?
honestly banning TNO and its pedos from steam workshop would be good, it should be a good warning shot for the community but then they would lose some potential players (because mods basically saved hoi4 and it has good reasons for it)
 
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Kilgour1928

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final update on both tinyds, and something nobody here knew about.

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Looks like they've gotten hammy's information, and was able to do a police report, but as everyone here knows, the police doesn't take online crime seriously unless its alt right or if someone gets actually raped or commits suicide. so most likely hammy gets off scot free, and TNO the same. I want to put a part of the document tiny made in to show something.
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this points to a incredibly lazy, and genuinely incompetent person. it makes sense for a kid to contact an adult they trust (even online) to get help, and it looks like they never did.

maybe if they did, and this was still an ongoing case, stuff could've been done, but it looks like too much time has passed.

honestly, just kinda makes me sad. I don't get how a functioning adult could act like this, and just ignore a victim so easily, especially one that proclaims themselves as the arbiter of protecting children, or whatever lie he's saying this week.

but onto the part that no one here knew about, I'll explain it pretty simply, Paradox was in contact with a large member of the Hoi4 modding community to figure out what was going on. both about the Joe pcola situation, and the TNO chai, hammy, mewtini, panzer... all the pedo shit from them. the talks had been going on for about three months. I don't know much about it because I was only in contact with a third party.

it went like this, I was given information from Mai, who got info from the large community member (who he refuses to tell me who it is) and he was in contact with paradox.
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but, the update is this.
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paradox doesn't care, it isn't big enough to have an effect, so they won't signal boost it, and they're pretty much cutting contact with most members of the community.

they have full knowledge that Joe, a pedophile, is still inside the hoi4 community and is still trying to weasel his way back into running a mod, they know that TNO is trying their best to sweep everything they did under the rug, and they know that panzer is apart of the ck3 modding scene, and is pretty much just doing a repeat of his time at tno all over again, just in a different community. they know about hammy, they know that she was protected by members of their community, and they do not give a single shit.

because it isn't big enough. it doesn't have enough views on YouTube, or enough likes on a twitter post, or Instagram hearts or whatever, until that happens, they won't do anything. because the second they have to talk about it, they lose.

that's business baby.
My speculation is that Paradox is literally alienating the modding community as in their HOI4 dev diaries, modders replies are going unanswered. I think that they might not make the games as mod friendly as before, to make sure only people with brains anf no idiots can go around modding stuff.

Besides that, another thing that I wanted to verify was that mods that don't have any ideological fetishes or are based on real life dont seens have any of this drama within them or at least it is relatively small compared to what others brought to the table.

This lol. It isnt as bad as the modding community but paradox studios is ridiculously inept. All of the new games they make have like 17-30 DLC packs that cost 20$ each and they still play like shit.
They havent fixed the AI yet. Another fact is that somepople dont even buy the DLCs but just get the pirated ones which and be easily integrateed to the game copy. BTW for the earlier transphobia pointed out against Slack, what would one expect if a good chunk of these pedos and pedo defenders in the HOI4 modding community turn out to be trannies?
 

vulgar

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My speculation is that Paradox is literally alienating the modding community as in their HOI4 dev diaries, modders replies are going unanswered. I think that they might not make the games as mod friendly as before, to make sure only people with brains anf no idiots can go around modding stuff.

Besides that, another thing that I wanted to verify was that mods that don't have any ideological fetishes or are based on real life dont seens have any of this drama within them or at least it is relatively small compared to what others brought to the table.
The games are becoming increasingly modder friendly, they just keep the modders at arm's distance and out of smelling range for cases such as these.

despite Paradox's recent bitching and moaning about the tahxic community, I doubt they'll ever take an openly hostile stance like Nintendo.
 

Kilgour1928

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I mean, but, what could Paradox do if they wanted to do something? This is a legitimate question, btw, not being ironic. Like, could they ban their paradox accounts? Ban TNO from the Steam workshop or something like that? Or do something like «PARADOX SAYS PEDOPHILIA BAD»? Considering HOI4 it's +13, maybe it wouldn't be underappreciated to remember their redditor fanbase pedophilia is, indeed, bad. But I don't really know if Paradox getting into this would make such a difference other than making more people knowledgeable (which I guess it's important, to some extent).

Also, doesn't TNO use a lot of swastikas and nazi images? I thought they banned swastikas mods and that kind of stuff. Also, TNO has lots of genocides. Didn't Paradox banned Holocaust simulator mods because «Holocaust and genocide bad»?

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The games are becoming increasingly modder friendly, they just keep the modders at arm's distance and out of smelling range for cases such as these.

despite Paradox's recent bitching and moaning about the tahxic community, I doubt they'll ever take an openly hostile stance like Nintendo.
Maybe some simple encrytion of files while allowing mods would help. This way we wont have idiots like Cass trying to mod and do such shit.
 

>tfw no astropath gf

"TLJ is an expression of autism"- Bilbo Baggins
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don't get excited just yet because they knew about it really back in the day when it's started and becoming big, its been months now, and they didn't do anything about it other than collecting golden nuggets for their pocket

anything bad that comes to light or signal boosting it would hurt them either way in a PR standpoint
I mean, but, what could Paradox do if they wanted to do something? This is a legitimate question, btw, not being ironic. Like, could they ban their paradox accounts? Ban TNO from the Steam workshop or something like that? Or do something like «PARADOX SAYS PEDOPHILIA BAD»? Considering HOI4 it's +13, maybe it wouldn't be underappreciated to remember their redditor fanbase pedophilia is, indeed, bad. But I don't really know if Paradox getting into this would make such a difference other than making more people knowledgeable (which I guess it's important, to some extent).

Also, doesn't TNO use a lot of swastikas and nazi images? I thought they banned swastikas mods and that kind of stuff. Also, TNO has lots of genocides. Didn't Paradox banned Holocaust simulator mods because «Holocaust and genocide bad»?
Some years ago a Stellaris mod was pulled down because of it being "offensive and hateful", the mod made every human a european with an european name, this happened because redditors (of course) were shacking and crying about how the LITERAL nazis are enjoying the mod and how that's essentially the modders fault; anyway all this soy-fueled rage by part of the redditors made Paradox pull down the mod from the Steam Workshop and put a statement about bigotry or something.

As a sidenote, you can tell this situation was started by redditors because they didn't even the check what other mods that modder made, the other mods were just like that but for africans and asians respectevely.
As a sidenote of the sidenote, it's funny how in Stellaris you can genocide hundreds of billions of sentient beings but having a mod that implies blacks are exctinct is just too far, mr.redditor is going to report you to the fun-police you bigot.
 

Hyper

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Some years ago a Stellaris mod was pulled down because of it being "offensive and hateful", the mod made every human a european with an european name, this happened because redditors (of course) were shacking and crying about how the LITERAL nazis are enjoying the mod and how that's essentially the modders fault; anyway all this soy-fueled rage by part of the redditors made Paradox pull down the mod from the Steam Workshop and put a statement about bigotry or something.

As a sidenote, you can tell this situation was started by redditors because they didn't even the check what other mods that modder made, the other mods were just like that but for africans and asians respectevely.
As a sidenote of the sidenote, it's funny how in Stellaris you can genocide hundreds of billions of sentient beings but having a mod that implies blacks are exctinct is just too far, mr.redditor is going to report you to the fun-police you bigot.
God, i hate paradox i hope the "harrassment" (big meanie words from monitor screen) they get from the recent Leviathan update bite them in the ass hard
 

Corpun

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despite Paradox's recent bitching and moaning about the tahxic community, I doubt they'll ever take an openly hostile stance like Nintendo.
They'll target edgy shit like that one crusader mod for HoI4 that got mentioned in it's wiki articles but never comment on rampant pedos in their modding community.
 

vulgar

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They'll target edgy shit like that one crusader mod for HoI4 that got mentioned in it's wiki articles but never comment on rampant pedos in their modding community.
realistically they wouldn’t have done anything about the White only mod either had fag journos not whinged about it.
 

Hiteles

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Well, they indeed tried to get the TNO stuff into the Wikipedia article. But an anti-vandalism user rolled it back (not hate against him). Tbf, it's Wikipedia policy to not back stuff in Youtube sources. Maybe they could have searched for more reliable sources (I don't know if it can be found an official document of Pcola being investigated for paedophilia). But again, considering Wikipedia thinks TWP and TNT are "reliable sources", meanwhile TNP is "generally unreliable", you can guess founding sources that would be considered reliable for them would be pretty much very hard.
 

Radola Gajda

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About the CK3 thing : Paradox gave Panzer an early copy of the game to begin making Godherja on. Well before CK3 was even announced he was bragging about how his 'modding fame' made a certain company give him early access to begin making 'a new project' on, and if you look at CK3's credits, he's listed as a beta tester under his real name.
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They probably had full contact with him when all this shit was going down.
Paradox is a fucking scumfuck company that makes shitty games, overpriced DLC, and actively harbours its pedophile community to keep the money rolling in.
Is Panzer actually modding ck3 or is it again him doing PR while letting others do the work while taking credit for it of course.

Technically it did occur for a while. However it got taken down as soon as the TNOtards found it.
TNOtards also vandalised multiple Wikipedia pages because people looking for info about obscure historical characters really wants to know If redditors from sub about Niche mod for Niche strategy game think he Is muh wholesome big chungus commie or not.

Did TNO "devs" released update yet or it is still coming out soon?

Also what do you guys think about fact that some special group made TNO Anime graphic overhaul?
 

Corpun

Save the Tomboys! #TLM
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TNOtards also vandalised multiple Wikipedia pages because people looking for info about obscure historical characters really wants to know If redditors from sub about Niche mod for Niche strategy game think he Is muh wholesome big chungus commie or not.
That shit happens with Kaiserreichstans as well.
 

longshot

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Is Panzer actually modding ck3 or is it again him doing PR while letting others do the work while taking credit for it of course.


TNOtards also vandalised multiple Wikipedia pages because people looking for info about obscure historical characters really wants to know If redditors from sub about Niche mod for Niche strategy game think he Is muh wholesome big chungus commie or not.

Did TNO "devs" released update yet or it is still coming out soon?

Also what do you guys think about fact that some special group made TNO Anime graphic overhaul?
There's never going to be an update, apparently their entire private dev server is almost dead with very little activity that isnt just stroking the egos of the lead 'developers'.

Rumour is that the leak teasers they make are not even real, they're photoshopped icons and mechanics that they're getting out to calm down their braindead fanbase. Even the fucking weeaboos do more work than them.
 

NynchLiggers

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There's never going to be an update, apparently their entire private dev server is almost dead with very little activity that isnt just stroking the egos of the lead 'developers'.

Rumour is that the leak teasers they make are not even real, they're photoshopped icons and mechanics that they're getting out to calm down their braindead fanbase. Even the fucking weeaboos do more work than them.
They do it for free, remember this.

Is Panzer actually modding ck3 or is it again him doing PR while letting others do the work while taking credit for it of course.


TNOtards also vandalised multiple Wikipedia pages because people looking for info about obscure historical characters really wants to know If redditors from sub about Niche mod for Niche strategy game think he Is muh wholesome big chungus commie or not.
Kinda unrelated but Wikipedia itself has lolcows, for example a neo-nazi pedophile that took his job as a janny way too seriously and became a tranny after losing his position.
 
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