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I, for one, don't want to live like that. People of African descent are part of our New World heritage. They are also educated and trained in our system and a lot is invested in them. Why do we need to speak in broad, sweeping generalizations, and in such disparaging terms, because of a few bad actors?

There is no way such a move would be legal. What are you going to do? Forcibly uproot Blacks from property they own, and jobs they were hired to do, to segregate them geographically? How about people who serve in law enforcement and military? Should they just courageously and gracefully blast themselves off to some distant island?

Come on, this has to be trolling. Or a twisted fantasy by-product of very sheltered individuals.
Visit South Africa some time and think about what it's like to be white there. I think you'll get why people disagree with you.
 

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Visit South Africa some time and think about what it's like to be white there. I think you'll get why people disagree with you.
South Africa is a unique case.

The country applied socialism to the worst possible things: housing and development. They also had affirmative action instead of a meritocracy. This resulted in a corrupt class of black people destroying the country through vote buying and incompetent people all over the place. At the same time the next generation of university graduates were learning from American and British professors that emphasized that it was all "whities fault". This weird brand of left wing intelligentsia was anti-science and oddly violent (people who learned from Khmer Rouge denying professors).

It's a unique omelet of bad ideas. Most other places in the Caribbean and Africa are fine with electing white people based on their ideas and merit. Most of these places want to make their economies competitive and want to instill in their citizens personal virtue. Rwanda is calling itself the Singapore of Africa and Nigeria has a class of reformers similar to that of the 19th century Britain.
 

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South Africa is a unique case.

The country applied socialism to the worst possible things: housing and development. They also had affirmative action instead of a meritocracy. This resulted in a corrupt class of black people destroying the country through vote buying and incompetent people all over the place. At the same time the next generation of university graduates were learning from American and British professors that emphasized that it was all "whities fault". This weird brand of left wing intelligentsia was anti-science and oddly violent (people who learned from Khmer Rouge denying professors).

It's a unique omelet of bad ideas. Most other places in the Caribbean and Africa are fine with electing white people based on their ideas and merit. Most of these places want to make their economies competitive and want to instill in their citizens personal virtue. Rwanda is calling itself the Singapore of Africa and Nigeria has a class of reformers similar to that of the 19th century Britain.
lmao yes those capitalist utopias Rwanda and Nigeria. Would definitely rather live there than mayo commie hellholes like Norway or Portland, Oregon.
 

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Would you rather live in an area that is all white or an area that is all black. Which would you choose? If you're being honest, I already know your answer.

The thing is, every ethnic group who is raising a family is going to choose the white area over the black if those are their choices. Even black families would rather the white area, in fact, them in particular, especially if they spent any time in a majority black environment. There's just a lot of bullshit that you aren't gonna have to deal with in the white neighborhood, it's as simple as that.

Even the people who preach the virtues of multiculturalism don't want to actually live in places with a large percentage of certain minorities. They probably wouldn't mind living somewhere with upper-middle class Whites, Asians, and Indians mixed together, but they'd have a problem raising their children in a neighborhood that's mostly black or latino. They wanna pick and choose what minorities are acceptable neighbors, which would be fine if they were honest about it.
I would rather live in an area that has a mix of lifestyles and values. I would not want to live in an all black area because I don't want to deal with hostile and racist blacks to be perfectly honest. They (especially Black women) see me as a threat. They also have their social functions and Church picnics and play groups and people who prefer to live in a segregated area don't want skinny white girls showing up.

I would not want to live in an insular all-white area either because I don't quite fit.
 
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Would you rather live in an area that is all white or an area that is all black. Which would you choose? If you're being honest, I already know your answer.

The thing is, every ethnic group who is raising a family is going to choose the white area over the black if those are their choices. Even black families would rather the white area, in fact, them in particular, especially if they spent any time in a majority black environment. There's just a lot of bullshit that you aren't gonna have to deal with in the white neighborhood, it's as simple as that.

Even the people who preach the virtues of multiculturalism don't want to actually live in places with a large percentage of certain minorities. They probably wouldn't mind living somewhere with upper-middle class Whites, Asians, and Indians mixed together, but they'd have a problem raising their children in a neighborhood that's mostly black or latino. They wanna pick and choose what minorities are acceptable neighbors, which would be fine if they were honest about it.
Racist.
 

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I, for one, don't want to live like that. People of African descent are part of our New World heritage. They are also educated and trained in our system and a lot is invested in them. Why do we need to speak in broad, sweeping generalizations, and in such disparaging terms, because of a few bad actors?

There is no way such a move would be legal. What are you going to do? Forcibly uproot Blacks from property they own, and jobs they were hired to do, to segregate them geographically? How about people who serve in law enforcement and military? Should they just courageously and gracefully blast themselves off to some distant island?

Come on, this has to be trolling. Or a twisted fantasy by-product of very sheltered individuals.
Yeah the strawmen built by the detractors of a position tend to sound pretty poorly based and ill constructed. Who would have thought?

Perhaps the better question is, do people who do not have your same prefferences, should they be allowed to form their own communities and businesses according to their prefferences?
 

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Would you rather live in an area that is all white or an area that is all black. Which would you choose? If you're being honest, I already know your answer.

The thing is, every ethnic group who is raising a family is going to choose the white area over the black if those are their choices. Even black families would rather the white area, in fact, them in particular, especially if they spent any time in a majority black environment. There's just a lot of bullshit that you aren't gonna have to deal with in the white neighborhood, it's as simple as that.

Even the people who preach the virtues of multiculturalism don't want to actually live in places with a large percentage of certain minorities. They probably wouldn't mind living somewhere with upper-middle class Whites, Asians, and Indians mixed together, but they'd have a problem raising their children in a neighborhood that's mostly black or latino. They wanna pick and choose what minorities are acceptable neighbors, which would be fine if they were honest about it.
Most people also wouldn't want to live in majority white places in eastern europe with comparable poverty to black and latino neighborhoods. As you correctly point out, most of the people who support multiculturalism would be fine with upper-middle-class Asians, Indians and whites, they just don't want to live in poverty. What I don't think is entirely accurate is that they 'want to pick and choose what minorities are acceptable neighbors'. Would they really disapprove of a wealthy upper-middle-class black family moving in?

I'm just not entirely sure about the general thrust of this argument. Haven't you heard about the whole 'controversy' of gentrification? Where multicultural hipsters and college kids buy up sections of black neighborhoods and inadvertently price out the original residents? Clearly the hipsters who make up at least a part of the multicultural support base are in favor of living in black neighborhoods. As far as raising a family, it may be different but I think the reason people don't just move their white family into the middle of a black neighborhood is poverty and school districts, not necessarily race.
 

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Would you rather live in an area that is all white or an area that is all black. Which would you choose? If you're being honest, I already know your answer.

The thing is, every ethnic group who is raising a family is going to choose the white area over the black if those are their choices. Even black families would rather the white area, in fact, them in particular, especially if they spent any time in a majority black environment. There's just a lot of bullshit that you aren't gonna have to deal with in the white neighborhood, it's as simple as that.

Even the people who preach the virtues of multiculturalism don't want to actually live in places with a large percentage of certain minorities. They probably wouldn't mind living somewhere with upper-middle class Whites, Asians, and Indians mixed together, but they'd have a problem raising their children in a neighborhood that's mostly black or latino. They wanna pick and choose what minorities are acceptable neighbors, which would be fine if they were honest about it.
It really depends on the area. Black immigrants from Africa tend to be way better to live next to than some rețard ninth generation Pollocks in mobile homes. The problem with 'black neighborhoods' is unique to America because the stupid as fuck 'black culture' shit took off here. It created the hood rats, and hood rats are terrible. No one wants to live around them.

It isn't about IQ, however. Anyone who tries to make broad generalizations about a giant swath of humanity due to the color of their skin tones having an effect on their IQ is just a dumbass. If you raise a white kid as a hood rat, then they will likely act like one. If you raise a black child in a good environment, the same is true. However, there is a chance that peer pressure may push the black child towards rat-ism. That still has nothing to do with IQ, but a cultural one.
 

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Visit South Africa some time and think about what it's like to be white there. I think you'll get why people disagree with you.
If I were white South African I would emigrate. Not because I am racist and hate Black people. I would emigrate because I would be the descendent of a white colonial legacy. I would be surrounded by African indigenous people, who have been handed a shit sandwich and are angry about it.

It is understandable that they are angry. I just don't want to find myself in the wrong place, in the wrong time.

It really isn't so different for Americans. I avoid sketchy areas if possible, because if I have car trouble, I don't want to be white, and avail myself to a mob of angry Blacks. Especially if my children are in the car.

It isn't about hatred. I don't hate them. But I do see some individuals, as a threat, under particular circumstances.
 

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It's monumentally different, what occurred in South Africa as opposed to the USA. Apartheid was going strong until the early 90's. The people who lived through it are still here, most of them likely remember exactly what it was like. Also, the main difference, South Africa's situation had a minuscule white minority running the show and in complete control of everything that mattered in a country that was probably more than 90% black. That changes things completely and is an immensely different situation than anything the United States has ever experienced.

It's important that we don't overstate the things that happened here and try to compare it to and relate to what happened in S. Africa. Nobody alive in America can even comprehend what it was like in colonial times. Even the generation that had to experience actual prejudice and legally sanctioned injustice is dying out. Pretty soon, there won't be a single individual in the United States that remembers what it was like before they had equal protection and opportunity under the law. And even now, with those people still around, they'd probably tell you it wasn't as bad as any activist under 30 years old will claim it was.

It's going to be awhile before the generations that experienced apartheid in South Africa dies out. It's still fresh in recent memory for a lot of them. Another aspect that makes the situations completely unique and incomparable is the payback aspect. American blacks just moved on when they got the chance because they didn't have the numbers, and maybe also not the desire to try and get revenge for any injustices. South African blacks have both the numbers and the desire to make white South African's pay, and they're doing it right now, as we speak. That's a pretty significant difference as well.
You obviously can not compare the two. That was not my intention.

First off, African tribesmen are the indigenous people of South Africa. In the Americas, Africans were enslaved people, yes. But in their own special way, they were colonials, themselves. They were subjugated under colonial rule and slavery was abolished after the Civil war.

Today's Afro Americans don't sit around and ruminate about how much it sucked to be enslaved by 300 years ago, in the Southeastern states. If they do, that is not motivation for bashing a white guy over the head.

Most of the riots and mobs stem from what they perceive to be unequal access to resources and social injustice, as it is happening today.

Believe me, I have dealt with hostile blacks. Some of them literally hate me, just for being a thin blond white woman. To them I embody white privelege. Sorry, they got the wrong whitey. And it isn't all blacks. It is only some.

But I have learned to avoid Black areas and Black institutions, because whenever I have tried to relate to some of them on a human level, I get burned.

Dealing with whites is no picnic either. But I am not a target for people who know nothing about me.
 
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Objectively speaking, any two groups that are divided long enough will have difference in their abilities. However, no one is crazy enough to check it in academia/government. Also because it's a distribution, there is still a chance a group with a lower average intelligence will have smart people (or even a higher amount of smarter people than the other group).
As for social changes, it might be a smarter idea to reduce the vote of people too stupid to think about more than the immediate future, but you can't prove that anyways.
 

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Objectively speaking, any two groups that are divided long enough will have difference in their abilities. However, no one is crazy enough to check it in academia/government. Also because it's a distribution, there is still a chance a group with a lower average intelligence will have smart people (or even a higher amount of smarter people than the other group).
As for social changes, it might be a smarter idea to reduce the vote of people too stupid to think about more than the immediate future, but you can't prove that anyways.
Those people tend not to vote anyway as it's too much of a hassle to register and everything (even though it's not)
 
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