Careercow Rachel Dolezal / Nkechi Amare Diallo - White Person & Liar

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I'm honestly surprised Rachel is the first "trans-racial" person to get the media's attention. With the way social justice warriors fight each other to win the oppression olympics, it can't be that uncommon for white SJWs to pretend to be minorities for extra points.
Most of them just do it online where nobody knows the truth. It takes a special kind of person to go balls-out with the perms and bronzer and everything else, and actually be the local chapter head of the NAACP.
 

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I'm honestly surprised Rachel is the first "trans-racial" person to get the media's attention. With the way social justice warriors fight each other to win the oppression olympics, it can't be that uncommon for white SJWs to pretend to be minorities for extra points.
The white SJWs I've seen who pretend to be minorities (or who grossly exaggerate some small percentage of minority ancestry for oppression points) are, without exception, unsuccessful people. They're nobodies. They dream about being somebodies, but they have too many personality defects in the way, and the process of becoming somebody is simply too difficult and full of risk. So they retreat to the internet hugbox, where they can get all the asspats they crave.

They also tend to be spoonies, or have some sort of mental health issue (anxiety's a favorite, as is PTSD). Disability, be it real, or (more often than not) exaggerated or manufactured, is a huge part of their identities.

Most are still young enough to be university students, and most of those will discard those identities as they grow up and move into the real world. It's normal to say and do stupid things when you're young and working out your identity, and some people say and do much stupider things than others (see: Moldilocks, the antifa girl who got punched at Berkeley).

But the ones who persist with it (such as Pixyteri)--or pick it up in adulthood--are a mess. Even among the ones who manage to stay employed, they stay stuck at low-level, dead-end jobs that are far beneath their intelligence and education level. Their biggest accomplishments in life tend to be things like writing fanfic, running an online RPG, being a self-educated expert in some obscure/useless field of knowledge, or being some sort of online "activist." And the fact that they're always broke, and don't get the good jobs/promotions, or have difficult relationships with other people gets blamed on racism, sexism, and various -phobias held by other people, not the fact that they're lazy, self-pitying, malingering assholes.

So simply by being physically healthy, and having ambition, and getting out in the world and becoming accomplished at her work, Rachel Dolezal breaks that pattern. Instead of being holed up in her room trying to impress fellow loser shut-ins on Tumblr, she was out there in public, interacting with people, appearing in the news, etc. She presented herself as black IRL, and people did question it, but she was also effective in her work for the local NAACP. And that's why she's getting all the media attention for her "trans-racial" bullshit, while all the pathetic nobodies on Tumblr aren't. She was uncovered as a fraud, and instead of admitting guilt or disappearing she's has decided to double down on it with this "trans-racial" craziness. And since the media loves to put crazy in front of a camera, and she's willing to let them do that, she's getting lots of attention.
 

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I'm honestly surprised Rachel is the first "trans-racial" person to get the media's attention. With the way social justice warriors fight each other to win the oppression olympics, it can't be that uncommon for white SJWs to pretend to be minorities for extra points.


IQ is a poor way of measuring intelligence in the first place. However, brains are just organs and there's no reason they wouldn't be affected by genetic inheritance like the rest of our bodies. It's not PC to say so, but what we call intelligence is most likely part nature and part nurture.


I can't stand it up, as you've said studies in nature vs nurture are exhaustive and don't fully support one or the other. But to quote the dude.

It's just like, my opinion man.
 

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The white SJWs I've seen who pretend to be minorities (or who grossly exaggerate some small percentage of minority ancestry for oppression points) are, without exception, unsuccessful people. They're nobodies. They dream about being somebodies, but they have too many personality defects in the way, and the process of becoming somebody is simply too difficult and full of risk. So they retreat to the internet hugbox, where they can get all the asspats they crave.

They also tend to be spoonies, or have some sort of mental health issue (anxiety's a favorite, as is PTSD). Disability, be it real, or (more often than not) exaggerated or manufactured, is a huge part of their identities.

Most are still young enough to be university students, and most of those will discard those identities as they grow up and move into the real world. It's normal to say and do stupid things when you're young and working out your identity, and some people say and do much stupider things than others (see: Moldilocks, the antifa girl who got punched at Berkeley).

But the ones who persist with it (such as Pixyteri)--or pick it up in adulthood--are a mess. Even among the ones who manage to stay employed, they stay stuck at low-level, dead-end jobs that are far beneath their intelligence and education level. Their biggest accomplishments in life tend to be things like writing fanfic, running an online RPG, being a self-educated expert in some obscure/useless field of knowledge, or being some sort of online "activist." And the fact that they're always broke, and don't get the good jobs/promotions, or have difficult relationships with other people gets blamed on racism, sexism, and various -phobias held by other people, not the fact that they're lazy, self-pitying, malingering assholes.

So simply by being physically healthy, and having ambition, and getting out in the world and becoming accomplished at her work, Rachel Dolezal breaks that pattern. Instead of being holed up in her room trying to impress fellow loser shut-ins on Tumblr, she was out there in public, interacting with people, appearing in the news, etc. She presented herself as black IRL, and people did question it, but she was also effective in her work for the local NAACP. And that's why she's getting all the media attention for her "trans-racial" bullshit, while all the pathetic nobodies on Tumblr aren't. She was uncovered as a fraud, and instead of admitting guilt or disappearing she's has decided to double down on it with this "trans-racial" craziness. And since the media loves to put crazy in front of a camera, and she's willing to let them do that, she's getting lots of attention.
Key thing here is that most of them are just sane enough to know they can't pull off the con in broad daylight for very long before gaping holes appear in their disguise even if they do "pass".

Dolezal was unique in that she went the extra mile to make herself "pass" and aside from a few dumb mistakes, it actually held up to light scrutiny, but she just has to attention whore and that resulted in her downfall, because too much scrutiny caused the disguise to be seen as it really was by too many people.

Throw in the fact she genuinely buys her own lies, in that she truly thinks she changed race, even though that's just physically impossible.

Essentially, she was a brighter than average (in the short term) white SJW who sunk too far into delusion to realize their disguise was getting sloughed off and by the time she was aware of it, it was not only too late, she herself bought her own BS too much to admit she was wrong.
 
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As she's been making news a bit lately I've noticed a lot of people coming out of the woodwork to defend her by saying 'Trans people say they're born in the wrong body too, how is what she's doing any different to a trans person?' Of course, there are some parallels but mostly they're two entirely different things. Kind of weird to see so many people saying they don't get the big deal being made over Rachel when previously she was pretty much wholesale condemned for her actions.
 

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Did Shaun "Talcum X" King ever weigh in on what he thought of Dolezal? Or did the controversy hit too close to home for him to comment?
Yeah, this is exactly what came to mind when other prominent race fakers came up. King is just better at the ruse than Dolezal, and much better networked than she is. No one gives a shit about the Spokane NAACP chapter that she made up herself. King writes articles for major outlets that get attention, which gets him support from people invested in the cause.
 

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As she's been making news a bit lately I've noticed a lot of people coming out of the woodwork to defend her by saying 'Trans people say they're born in the wrong body too, how is what she's doing any different to a trans person?' Of course, there are some parallels but mostly they're two entirely different things. Kind of weird to see so many people saying they don't get the big deal being made over Rachel when previously she was pretty much wholesale condemned for her actions.
The thing is both transexual and transracial are both fucking exceptional and a sign that the person is mentally ill.
 

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I don't know about that. Isn't part of her backstory that her parents adopted two black sons? If she grew up one of three (I don't know if there are other siblings), and the other two were black, she might well identify more with her siblings than her parents. Or if she felt her brothers were competition for her parents' affections, she might have landed on race as the reason and been drawn toward it.

I got the impression that many people in this thread don't believe there are significant differences between races, so why shouldn't a white girl raised alongside black siblings think of herself as one of them?
 

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'Race dysphoria' can easily be written in the DSM just like gender dysphoria was.
Rachel's behavior already falls under previously defined disorders; likely narcissistic personality disorder and probably delusional disorder depending on if she truly believes her own bullshit. There would be no point in creating a new disorder for her or people like her that think they're black, just like there'd be no point in creating a new disorder for people who think they're Jesus or Napoleon.

There's a separate disorder for gender dysphoria because people with corresponding symptoms did not fit neatly into other disorders; they are not delusional, for example, in the way that psychology defines delusions so delusional disorder doesn't fit them in the way it fits Dolezal.

Race (insomuch as it has any ramifications in society) is defined almost exclusively by surface feature morphology; we can tell someone is black or white by their skin color. Gender includes biological sex, but also additional things from clothing to mannerisms to speech patterns. That's why we can generally tell what gender someone is shooting for (with exceptions made for tumblr exceptional individuals) somewhat intuitively and also why it's so hard for even True and Honest trannies to pass; unless you hit the vast majority of the things that define the gender you're going for, you end up landing in some kind of gender uncanny valley where things just look creepy and wrong.
 

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...There's a separate disorder for gender dysphoria because people with corresponding symptoms did not fit neatly into other disorders; they are not delusional, for example, in the way that psychology defines delusions so delusional disorder doesn't fit them in the way it fits Dolezal.
We're talking about Dolezal because she's extra-exceptional. I have no doubt that the first trans people that people talked about were considered about as delusional. But enough time has passed that it has gone from being "that boy is crazy" to "gender dysmorphia." It seems to be a characteristic of behavior being accepted.

Race (insomuch as it has any ramifications in society) is defined almost exclusively by surface feature morphology; we can tell someone is black or white by their skin color.
Can we? In most cases, perhaps, but there are plenty of people who, through the genetic lottery, do not "look" like their racial ancestry the way we would expect. You also have people who have disorders that specifically make them appear far outside the norm (vitaligo, albinism, etc). These conditions are very rare, but then again so are the intersex conditions that trans-advocates use as an example in order to point to gender as not being black and white (even though most trans people have no such condition). In any case, race is much more of a construct than gender (two people can look at someone's appearance and even genetic analysis and come up with completely different ideas of that person's "race").

Gender includes biological sex, but also additional things from clothing to mannerisms to speech patterns. That's why we can generally tell what gender someone is shooting for (with exceptions made for tumblr exceptional individuals) somewhat intuitively and also why it's so hard for even True and Honest trannies to pass; unless you hit the vast majority of the things that define the gender you're going for, you end up landing in some kind of gender uncanny valley where things just look creepy and wrong.
Fair enough but I would argue that race is not just skin deep. 'Wigger, oreo, banana' etc are terms that exist because we recognize that there are elements of race that are cultural, behavioral, linguistic.

Dolezal is nuts. But she won't be the last one to use the same playbook that says that we society must accept whatever identity an individual chooses, rather than putting them into the constructs that the society has developed. The distinctions being made to try and separate the two types of identity seem convenient and very artificial to me.
 

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